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Going out on a limb: Apple Magic Keyboard = Apple Keyboard with Magic Trackpad permanently attached with one of two additional flairs like 3D Touch as a possibility.

Interesting guess.

A new keyboard without the battery hump means a new trackpad as well—otherwise they won't line up side by side.

So, even if that new trackpad remains external, I hope it gets Force Touch! I'd be surprised if not.

I HATE the diving-board style click. RSI, here I come! Clicking anywhere with my index finger feels more mouselike--and safer. I wish I had one of those new Force Touch trackpads.
 
I don't hate apple at all - I have been using apple products since 1981. Let's see, in my house I have 6 apple laptops, 3 iphones, 2 ipods, 2 ipads, time capsule and an apple tv. What I hate about Apple is that they are hypocritical to a fault. They once said "if it needs a stylus the device is a failure". And, "physical keyboards will be a thing of the past". So now, since they have a new stylus and new keyboard, both of which Apple and the fanbois made fun of in the past, we are supposed to think this is innovation? Really? I just call things as I see them.

We live in a world where being adaptable to changing conditions--a GOOD THING--is widely considered a fault in our leaders. "Hypocritical" or "flip-flopping." It's as though logical thought itself has become a sin...

(In any case, "if it NEEDS a stylus" was the meaning of Jobs' quote--and many awful pre-iPad tablets did need one. That's nothing against having the option for artists. Plus, I'm not sure how Jobs's statement then could be hypocritical vs. what he says now... he's dead, and it's not him making the decision. You'd "hate Apple" less if they were a slave to everything past CEOs said?)

P.S. Apple shipped their own iPad-only physical keyboard alongside the very first iPad 1, and ever since has sold their BT keyboard as an iPad accessory. They have never not sold an Apple keyboard for iPad. (Plus Apple has sold 3rd-party keyboards and drawing pens for years.) And you have invented the quote about "physical keyboards will be a thing of the past." Apple predicted that physical keyboards were not necessary on phones—and they were right.
 
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What I hate about Apple is that they are hypocritical to a fault. They once said "if it needs a stylus the device is a failure".

Jobs said that in the context of a phone with a 3.5-inch screen. If a 3.5-inch (or 12.9-inch) screen does indeed need a stylus then it is indeed a failure. BTW, this iPad Pro still DOESN'T NEED a stylus. It's there for people who want to use it for what pressure- and angle-sensitivity brings. I, personally, don't need it -- go guess what, I simply won't buy it.

And, "physical keyboards will be a thing of the past".

Not sure who said that, but yes, they are a thing of the past -- in context of a phone. Well, maybe a few die-hard Blackberry users (the handful that are left) want a physical keyboard.

Besides, do you really think ALL physical keyboards are thing of the past? I'm typing on a physical keyboard right now. As you probably are.

Really? I just call things as I see them.

If you're gonna "call things" then at least get the context right. :)
 
Going out on a limb: Apple Magic Keyboard = Apple Keyboard with Magic Trackpad permanently attached with one of two additional flairs like 3D Touch as a possibility.
I wouldn't say that's going out on a limb, I think that's a completely obvious guess. Backlit Apple keyboard with trackpad on the side with support for 3DTouch ---> $99 (if we're lucky; could be as high as $140)
 
Bluetooth keyboard should include a trackpad. If the Apple TV remote and iPhones can control the cursor surely something could be built into the keyboard at not too great a cost.

Ideally the proportions would be the same as on Apple's laptop computers so that users going from their laptops to a desktop set up would be very familiar with not only the keyboard layout but the placement and size of the touchpad as well.
 
LOL gotta love the way Apple is innovating today! First, they invent the stylus and call it a pencil! w00t! All while charging $99 for it, this is innovation at it's highest level. Then, they try to top that by stealing the Surface's keyboard! Mind = blown!

Sorry bud but a tilt enabled pressure sensitive pen ain't 'a stylus' and the cover while might look the same - has proper click clack keys.
 
Sorry bud but a tilt enabled pressure sensitive pen ain't 'a stylus' and the cover while might look the same - has proper click clack keys.

So does the keyboard cover I got for my Surface 3. Actual, moving, clicking keys. The older Surface RT I just sold on eBay had a cloth covered keyboard with flat keys.
 
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Makes sense to magic the naming convention of the trackpad and mouse. Hope they're all updated soon.

So...it's a Microsoft Surface keyboard? :) A magic keyboard with a magic pencil. I love Apple but I feel like they are losing steam without Steve Jobs. Now all I need is a magic carpet to explore a whole new world...

Read the article next time.
 
The Surface Pro 3 is great but sadly I bet the iPad Pro will outsell it. The Surface offers a full OS and actual intel processors among many other benefits. Of course its Microsoft though so it must have been made in the 1980s and no where as cool as the iPad Pro that was made in 2020, which means somehow time travel has been made possible. Le sigh.
 
umm did you know MS license the KB technology or design stuff one the other from apple so i guess there still full steam ahead

Absolutely correct. Microsoft did it the right way, via licensing (note to Sammy...you coulda been there too). The keyboard cover is fully protected---folding keyboard, data/power contacts--- in a 2011 Apple patent application USPTO 20120194448 (and other EC and CN patents) "Cover Attachment with a Flexible Display". Not that it matters since it was properly licensed, but Apple was there first, not the MS Surface iterations.

Regardless, this will now be one of those enduring myths that Softians will never give up, like Apple stole the mouse and icons concepts from Xerox, etc.
 
Is it me or does that monstrosity look absolutely ridiculous?

Kills the whole point of the iPad advantage over the laptop ... Portability.

The same goes for the Apple Pencil. A stylus for a product which boasted it never needed one.

Rearrange these words to from a famous expression: Eyes Ball Their Taken Off The :-(
Not just you.

But, I am not sure that the iPad Pro is even targeting portability. I mean, it's huge. And heavy. And the keyboard makes it more huge. And the stylus doesn't even attach for transit. Nothing about it implies portability. It's just a big, expensive, touch-based tool for a niche of creative types who wanted an Apple alternative to their Cintiq. Or to mount into a medical terminal. Or leave standing on a desk as a personal computer/monitor next to a more-controlled work desktop.

They even named it "Pro." Normal consumers don't buy the Mac Pro. Not only isn't it meant for them, it's probably not even a good fit for them should they have the cash to buy one. I feel like this iPad Pro is the same. It is not targeting normal consumers. It's a special product for a subset of customers that need its specific functions and can write it off as a business expense.
 
The Surface Pro 3 is great but sadly I bet the iPad Pro will outsell it. The Surface offers a full OS and actual intel processors among many other benefits. Of course its Microsoft though so it must have been made in the 1980s and no where as cool as the iPad Pro that was made in 2020, which means somehow time travel has been made possible. Le sigh.

Everyone seems to be under the impression that the iPad Pro will be slower than the Surface Pro 3, just because the SP3 has an Intel processor and runs Windows. Based on what they claimed in the presentation, the iPad Pro should have a Geekbench 3 multicore score of over 8100. The iPad Air 2 had a score of 4525. The SP3 with 64 bit Windows and Intel Core i7-4650U 2295 MHz has a score of 5755. The closest score among Macs is the 2009 Mac (NOT Macbook) Pro - Intel Xeon W3520 2670 MHz (4 cores) with a score of 8063.

If this turns out to be accurate, that's pretty stunning. I think the power of the iPad Pro is being vastly underestimated by many people. We'll see when it gets released and benchmarked.
 
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I look forward to when apple has so many cute marketing names people start getting them confused:

I'd like the magic touch phone, I mean the 3d keyboard, or is it the retina touchpad, no it's definately the mechanical pencil stylus.
 
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I look forward to when apple has so many cute marketing names people start getting them confused:

I'd like the magic touch phone, I mean the 3d keyboard, or is it the retina touchpad, no it's definately the mechanical pencil stylus.

Already confused between the use of magic/smart.

And "FORCE" vs. "3D" Touch.
 
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LOL gotta love the way Apple is innovating today! First, they invent the stylus and call it a pencil! w00t! All while charging $99 for it, this is innovation at it's highest level. Then, they try to top that by stealing the Surface's keyboard! Mind = blown!

In what way is Microsoft selling a keyboard with a tablet innovation?
 
What I hate about Apple is that they are hypocritical to a fault. They once said "if it needs a stylus the device is a failure". And, "physical keyboards will be a thing of the past". So now, since they have a new stylus and new keyboard, both of which Apple and the fanbois made fun of in the past, we are supposed to think this is innovation? Really? I just call things as I see them.

If it NEEDS a stylus it's a failure - not if its an option.

Back when Steve jobs made those comments, a stylus was more limited than fingers. It could only point and draw. It couldn't pinch to zoom, multi-finger swipes weren't possible, and it was easy to lose.

Adding a stylus in ADDITION to a hand is a good idea, and it's not hypocritical.
 
Please for the Mac!

Keyboard - full size - black keys - back lit - available as either wired with USB 3.0 hub or full wireless (no hub obviously) models.

These things or why even bother.
 
I read "applemagickeyboard" as

apple magickey board

Actually I often read it as "apple magickey keyboard" , I just didn't want to say that.
 
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