Wacom nudge nudgeIf it NEEDS a stylus it's a failure - not if its an option.
Back when Steve jobs made those comments, a stylus was more limited than fingers. It could only point and draw. It couldn't pinch to zoom, multi-finger swipes weren't possible, and it was easy to lose.
Adding a stylus in ADDITION to a hand is a good idea, and it's not hypocritical.
And good specs. Don't forget about specs. It has an i7, 8GB RAM and 512GB SSD.The Surface Pro 3 is great but sadly I bet the iPad Pro will outsell it. The Surface offers a full OS and actual intel processors among many other benefits. Of course its Microsoft though so it must have been made in the 1980s and no where as cool as the iPad Pro that was made in 2020, which means somehow time travel has been made possible. Le sigh.
cover while might look the same - has proper click clack keys.
Except it can only run iPad apps so all that power for nada. Also, you're guessing at the Geekbench results. Let's wait for some facts aka you'll have to wait till November.Everyone seems to be under the impression that the iPad Pro will be slower than the Surface Pro 3, just because the SP3 has an Intel processor and runs Windows. Based on what they claimed in the presentation, the iPad Pro should have a Geekbench 3 multicore score of over 8100. The iPad Air 2 had a score of 4525. The SP3 with 64 bit Windows and Intel Core i7-4650U 2295 MHz has a score of 5755. The closest score among Macs is the 2009 Mac (NOT Macbook) Pro - Intel Xeon W3520 2670 MHz (4 cores) with a score of 8063.
If this turns out to be accurate, that's pretty stunning. I think the power of the iPad Pro is being vastly underestimated by many people. We'll see when it gets released and benchmarked.
We live in a world where being adaptable to changing conditions--a GOOD THING--is widely considered a fault in our leaders. "Hypocritical" or "flip-flopping." It's as though logical thought itself has become a sin...
(In any case, "if it NEEDS a stylus" was the meaning of Jobs' quote--and many awful pre-iPad tablets did need one. That's nothing against having the option for artists. Plus, I'm not sure how Jobs's statement then could be hypocritical vs. what he says now... he's dead, and it's not him making the decision. You'd "hate Apple" less if they were a slave to everything past CEOs said?)
P.S. Apple shipped their own iPad-only physical keyboard alongside the very first iPad 1, and ever since has sold their BT keyboard as an iPad accessory. They have never not sold an Apple keyboard for iPad. (Plus Apple has sold 3rd-party keyboards and drawing pens for years.) And you have invented the quote about "physical keyboards will be a thing of the past." Apple predicted that physical keyboards were not necessary on phones—and they were right.
Yes, and is there some reason you don't think anyone's developing new or updated iPad apps that take advantage of that power? Is there some inherent limitation of iPad apps I'm unaware of that prevents them from being as good if not better than desktop applications?Except it can only run iPad apps so all that power for nada. Also, you're guessing at the Geekbench results. Let's wait for some facts aka you'll have to wait till November.
In what way is Microsoft selling a keyboard with a tablet innovation?
Apple inflates their numbers. Lets meetup again in November and talk when we have facts. I'll be blown away if it reaches those numbers but I highly doubt it will.Yes, and is there some reason you don't think anyone's developing new or updated iPad apps that take advantage of that power? Is there some inherent limitation of iPad apps I'm unaware of that prevents them from being as good if not better than desktop applications?
I'm not taking a blind guess. I'm going off of already established Geekbench results and Phil's claim that the A9X chip is 1.8x faster. The Geekbench scores scale directly. That suggests a score of over 8100. If it's anywhere close, are you really going to say with a straight face that's not impressive?
Except you miss the entire point of what he said....Surface Pro 3 wants to be desktop and tablet in one. iPad Pro wants only to be a professional touch tablet. Two fundamentally different philosophies. iOS is touch uncompromised. There will be teething problems of course, but you don't change things without following your philosophy fully. Apple said no to Flash and now we can all thank them.
Where there keyboards that connected via a magnetic port to transfer power and data? And ive had the nerve to call it new technology LMAOYou do know that there have been 3rd party iPad keyboards way before surface existed, right? Apple's new keyboard is just another one that is entering the market of iPad keyboards.
Did someone day magic pencil? Up and down and around and flick.charging the price they charge for a stylus and keyboard cover is innovation indeed
I hate the "magic"/"smart" naming convention they put on their accessories. So unnatural and tacky when your friend asking you what cover/case/Apple accessories are you using.
"I have a magic mouse, magic track pad, smart cover, smart case, smart keyboard, magic pencil!"
kindergarten speak...
They once said "if it needs a stylus the device is a failure". And, "physical keyboards will be a thing of the past". So now, since they have a new stylus and new keyboard, both of which Apple and the fanbois made fun of in the past, we are supposed to think this is innovation? Really? I just call things as I see them.
Did someone day magic pencil? Up and down and around and flick.
It's a tablet that runs a full OS, and with the KB it becomes a laptop replacement? It's quite obvious, hence it competing vrs an Mb air.
How is a 12" IPad Air with a stylus and KB more innovative ?
Will it connect to the pro in portrait mode? That's the one problem I have with the ipad Air case.
I hate Apple now. They are running off into tangental markets for short money and this will eventually trap them in a corner. I've spent thirty years in and out of the IT business, mostly using Microsoft, before that CPM, before that Fortran & COBOL.. Twelve years ago I personally switched to OS X because it was a stable Unix based OS unlike Microsoft's wobbly products at the time. I still play with Microsoft and Android stuff and I can say conclusively that Apple's obsession with fashion, watch bands, music thugs, and color coordinated products will put the company in third place.You clearly hate Apple, so why do you hang out on an Apple forum?
“He would flip on something so fast that you would forget that he was the one taking the 180 degree polar [opposite] position the day before,” - http://allthingsd.com/20120529/steve-jobs-was-an-awesome-flip-flopper-says-tim-cook/