Majority will stick to the usual places and apps. There are bigger problems in this segment than alternative stores.
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Apple Reinstates Epic Games EU Developer Account, Paving the Way for Alternative App Store
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Nice to know you speak for all of us.
Nope, you can disable the sideloading frontend (the backend has been in iOS since day one) and everything goes back to how you want it
You gotta love the EU 🇪🇺 ❤️
I hope they will straighten up Apple so it will stop acting as the most nasty entity ever...
I hope they will straighten up Apple so it will stop acting as the most nasty entity ever...
Hate to break it to you, but everything man-made is artificial. You might as well argue to go back to pre-Industrial revolution times
Thank you for your long replyHere's the thing though. Companies wanting something doesn't necessarily mean they are entitled to it.
I am pretty sure Epic would love to have their App Store available on the Switch. I don't see that ever happening, and I am pretty sure any attempt to legislate this would be met with "just make your own hardware".
I do see the argument that the iPhone is considered "essential infrastructure" in many countries and the merit of Apple not being the sole judge and jury on what apps are available to users. At the same time though, the logical part of me still believes that Apple is entitled to monetise their platform however they see fit, and the DMA (and the EU by extension) should acknowledge that head on and get that elephant out of the room, because I believe this is also what Apple is the most bitter about currently. That they are essentially being made to give up their 30% cut and control over their App Store, just like that. With nothing in return to show for it.
Something like "Yes, we are violating Apple's property rights in this regard, but we are also measuring this tradeoff as a society. Apple is still going to get compensated (maybe akin to something like FRAND patents), and Apple is still going to invest in improving their App Store because they are making so much money and it's good for their platform as a whole". Or if you expect Apple to just do all of this for free, then come out and admit it.
Maybe the EU will never be honest about it because it might open them up to counter-lawsuits? I really don't know. It's like we all know what the DMA is designed to do, it's just that nobody wants to say the ugly part out loud on record.
I’d say this:
Apple is still selling a truckload - many truckloads - of phones. It’s not like they’re getting ‘nothing’ from the App Store.
And likely it’s that Gen AI will trigger a huge update cycle IF Apple can innovate in this space.
If we believe reports that Apple has a gen ai Siri running locally - well, you likely want a new phone with a lot more RAM and a A class processor with a bigger neural engine.
I know I’ll upgrade if that’s what the iPhone 16 turns out to be.
Another point - Apple is expecting to still reap the rewards of the innovations from 16-17 years ago.
Regulators and governments (in Europe, anyway) take a dim view of this generally - ie companies expecting to keep up the same business practices that they did in an emerging market now that it’s mature - as I’ve said in another post on this thread.
And this is another point - those of you who don’t live in Europe, may not get that what the EU is doing is here is how many industries in Europe are regulated. It’s a different tradition here in Europe, where the government always is above business and will always intervene to regulate markets.
Anyway. Perhaps this issue will all disappear in a few years in the age of gen AI, where AI agents are booking flights for you, ordering your shopping etc.
Whereas before you might pull out an app, now your AI agent will use APIs to talk to various services.
Perhaps at WWDC we’ll see a Siri working like this. And perhaps Apple will announce that any bookings or orders made by Siri must have an app in the App Store & will have a $% cut fee structure that looks remarkably like the App Store’s…
Apple pretty desperately spams their home screens and docks full of their own apps. iOS and macOS are already demonstrably more overwhelming and complicated looking to a first-time user than Android and Windows (as an ex-fan who moved over), factually backed up by just taking a bloody screenshot of the default layout of the screen when you first load in. Docks, menu bars, widgets, apps, stage managers, notches all over your face. A default browser popup isn't going to shift the dynamic on that much.
I have no problems with Fortnite being on iOS. I just don't want alternative application stores.Lol, good.
Apple Explains Why It Terminated Epic's Latest Developer Account
Apple today said it has terminated Epic Games Sweden's developer account worldwide due to the game developer's pattern of untrustworthy...www.macrumors.com
Now it’s funnier reading the comments at the article above, of people relishing over big bad Epic being banned from the EU.
Rough news day for people who don’t want Fortnite on iOS for some reason.
Choice is not good. It requires knowledge and experience to take advantage off.
Simplicity and uniformity is better when you don't want to spend any energy thinking while using a mobile device.
In fact, iOS, but especially iPadOS, has become to complex in some ways and all the questions you get when you setup a device shouldn't have been there.
You're contradicting yourself in the very next sentence.
Also malicious code isn't the only reason, unless you define malicious in a very broad sense.
1) No, they don't.
2) That's what I have been in fear for the whole time. A lot of commenters here have said that's not going to happen. The app will be available in the App Store. So you disagree with them and believe a lot of apps will not be available in the App Store?
It will be worse for those of us who wants simplicity and uniformity.
We don't want iOS to become more like Android, Windows and even macOS.
I'm European and I'm dead set against the DMA, DSA and other regulations. I don't want government regulations unless they're absolute necessary for security, health and immediate environmental damage.
Also I'm against it because the DMA will make my experience on iOS, but especially on the Mac worse.
Just one fine of $38 billions would destroy any profit Apple has for the entire Europe, Middle East and Africa region, not to talk about the EU. The net profit for Apple in the EU for iPhones and connected services is probably closer to $25 billions.
It would make the decision to withdraw iOS and iPhones from the EU quite possible.
Therein lies the irony. People rage against the iOS App Store, and the solution is to have other companies come in with their own app stores where they can host apps from other developers and charge them a cut. 🤨
micro transactions didn't come from apple. They come from the games industries freemium model as I explained. Companies dont just want to sell you a game anymore, they want you hooked on some weird never ending splurge of cash.
Price is not the only form of competition. The suggested MacPaw model sounds interesting to me.
Hell, it might be just a matter of having a better search mechanism, or more stringent curating for quality. I know from my own use of the iPad App Store that it's hard to find quality apps unless you know in advance what app you're looking for. Most of the stuff on the App Store is dross.
Prices may not fall, but quality may well improve.
Apple enabled it. Originally in app purchases weren’t allowed at all: apps were either free or they weren’t. A paid app was paid from the start or not at all. When Steve jobs announced in app purchases they also came with a clear rule: they can only exist in apps that were paid to start with: free apps couldn’t have them. Apple changed later this rule causing the flooding of the market with low quality free to download crap designed just to get you hooked and push you to buy in apps to win.
We are in agreement on this. Prices need to rise if app development is to stay financially viable, and people need to be willing to pay more.
Example - $99 for the play app.
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Just don't update, lmao; after all, you said iOS updates only bring more complexity 😂
what?