If you're quoting point 57 in this regard, you don't understand the DMA. This point deals with something else. There are other parts of the DMA which are much more relevant.
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If you're quoting point 57 in this regard, you don't understand the DMA. This point deals with something else. There are other parts of the DMA which are much more relevant.
And that's the way we like it. I don't want more choice and less uniformity. Or being able to do very complex task (by the user). I want simplicity and just one simple way to do things.
No other platform is close to achieving this. And now EU takes us in the opposite direction.
If people see the value they will pay the price - but some Devs are pushing out rubbish and expecting top dollar for it. The market works 2 ways - supply AND demand.We are in agreement on this. Prices need to rise if app development is to stay financially viable, and people need to be willing to pay more.
Example - $99 for the play app.
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I delay updates for a long time. Usually for a year or more.
Yes, I know you don't see how the DMA can affect a Mac users. Let me give you a clue: alternative web browser engines
"I" "don't see" how the DMA affects the Mac because it doesn't. By the way, the Mac has supported third-party browser engines since the inception of web browser.
Your quoting of point 57 deals with something more specific than you believe. It will be more relevant giving access to NFC than to alternative application stores.
It’s been a bad few months to be an Apple apologist.
As long as there are no unfair trade practices afoot market share isn’t relevant. The consumer can choose the product they prefer.
The DMA will indirectly affect Safari users negatively on the Mac over time.
If you're not a Safari user on the Mac or don't mind using other browsers, it won't affect you.
But isn’t the security expectation limited to your iPhone? By limiting yourself to using only Apple’s store nothing has changed. As for assurances that Apple’s App store is the only permitted distributor…well, I feel a person can ask for anything as long as they ask nicely, so go ahead and ask. But realize the answer can still be no.
Only if Apple stops working on Safari. In which case:
1) The market works in mysterious ways and such
2) Webkit is open source
But then you say iOS/iPadOS is already complex (which it is now, by far) and not simple. So that ship has already sailed anyways. If you want an appliance phone, use the Light Phone. If you are using an iPhone, you are not using a simple device.
Fragmentation is already all over your digital life too. You need only look at messaging apps and streaming video services. You already deal with this. Plus I guarantee you that most every single app will stay in the App Store, with maybe an exclusive here or there elsewhere, a trifling matter. History already shows that the first method of distribution is the one that sticks. Look at the Play Store. Look at Steam, most games are on there, with some exclusives elsewhere, and heads are not exploding.
My US of A friends, please, stay calm. You still only have two major political parties and only two major corporations, regarding mobile communications.
iOS still have only one accessible app store and Android still only have one approved app store.
Your freedom is more than assured! “the land of the free and the home of the brave”
You do not need to worry about us, europeans; we will manage to get by, with all the new third party stores, for our mobile phones. Anyway; thank you for you support. The 🇪🇺
iOS still have only one accessible app store and Android still only have one approved app store.
Your freedom is more than assured! “the land of the free and the home of the brave”
You do not need to worry about us, europeans; we will manage to get by, with all the new third party stores, for our mobile phones. Anyway; thank you for you support. The 🇪🇺
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Maybe you should read the DMA in full. There are very few places where the DMA requires explicitly a gatekeeper to provide something for free. When it does, it's usually about reporting, gaining access to data, and prodedures for grievances.
Let's take a look at alternative stores specifically:
"For software application stores [...] gatekeepers should publish and apply general conditions of access that should be fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory. [...]
The following benchmarks can serve as a yardstick to determine the fairness of general access conditions: prices charged or conditions imposed for the same or similar services by other providers of software application stores; prices charged or conditions imposed by the provider of the software application store for different related or similar services or to different types of end users; prices charged or conditions imposed by the provider of the software application store for the same service in different geographic regions; prices charged or conditions imposed by the provider of the software application store for the same service the gatekeeper provides to itself."
And interestingly:"This obligation should not establish an access right [...]"
Where cheering for Apple because in this case, what Apple and we want is basically the same.
I don't benefit by freedom of choice of browsers or having access to other stores. In fact, it might make my experience worse.
It's all about egotistical computing for me.
One reason applications on Mac can't cause as many problems as before is because macOS has become much more locked down in the last 10 years, borrowing from iOS.
How applications on macOS can take down the system is through memory leakage or just ask for more memory over time. macOS is much worse at shutting down applications just because they use too much memory.
And yet your Mac still has the freedom to distribute and download applications from any source without being forced to go through a single rent-seeking behemoth.
This won't be the last time Apple decides to reverse its decision. I'm already looking forward to the EU calling them out for all their unlawful policies regarding alternative app stores.
Because what Apple and I want is much more aligned. It would be a sad day when I start supporting poor people's opinions and goals because they're poor. I pretty much treat poor people and rich people alike.
Also, I don't want government regulations which affects products and services, and certainly not which affect them in details. Only in very limited circumstances should that be allowed.
That's exactly what we want for a mobile device.
If we want freedom or choice, we can always go on a Safari or use a Mac for those tasks.
iOS: Your home with a boring wife, a boring job, as exciting as a piece of paper
macOS: A young mistress which bad impulse control
Europe is EMEA in Apple's financial and not the EU.
You should also look at the profit which is much smaller in the EU. Just one $38 billion fine would wipe out Apple's entire profit in the EU and more.
The more of these fines they get, the more likely a dropping of iOS in the EU would make sense.