The EU isnt going to tell how apple has to act thay will just set the legislation and let apple take the best course.
I think alternative app stores is a fine solution to the issue as long as apple doesnt control them too much.
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I think alternative app stores is a fine solution to the issue as long as apple doesnt control them too much.
That's weird, because the EU itself is a monopoly that is over powerful. Maybe it should be broken up to keep it in check as well...
What Apple is allowed to do in the EU is in the end defined by the EU. 🤷🏻♂️
Oh really? So you're saying other European governments can overrule what the EU rules on? Or does the EU have the final say no matter how egregious and no matter what anyone else thinks? Interestingly enough, that sounds like the same kind of setup they're trying to restrict Apple from!
I am shocked!!!
Lol, good.
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Now it’s funnier reading the comments at the article above, of people relishing over big bad Epic being banned from the EU.
Rough news day for people who don’t want Fortnite on iOS for some reason.
THAT is what you thought we were upset with?
The EU is not independent from its member states. More or less all important EU stuff has to be decided unanimously by all member states.
That's awesome you're starting to see Apple the same way as the EU; everyone needs to limit their overreach!
Cool, so you agree that the EU is overreaching! Awesome!
Self proclaimed saviour of the continent that seeks to create fair market but wants to run farmers into the ground. These people are nuts.
Yeah sometimes! And you agree Apple needs regulation! This is progress, maybe we should hug?
One example: Xbox, PlayStation and Switch all meet the EU definition of gatekeeper but are not subject to the requirements the DMA places on the App Store due to not meeting the market cap requirements. So all of those smaller gatekeepers have the EU’s blessing to do all of the anticompetitive actions with their app stores and operating systems that Apple is not.
Easy example of the EU not creating a single market.
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Xbox, PlayStation and Switch have more than 10,000 yearly active EU business users? And they are considered a "core" service?
It seems they don‘t. Otherwise they would be included in the DMA regulation. 🤷🏻♂️
No, in a modern society your “quality of life” will be multiple orders of magnitude worse without electricity than without an iPhone. To the point your existence would depend on it. Sure, if you are willing to live like Ted kascinzky it wouldn’t matter.
I can do all that on my computer.
There are other ways.
But to your point 2fa is not a quality of life as electricity is. Don’t make 2fa a basis for quality of life. It’s a fake argument.
But you know what? I‘m going on with my life. There‘s a beautiful girl waiting for me at the local theater. I will include you and Tim Cook in my evening prayers.
Have nice evening!
Now if only the big brains in the EU could get together and build something competitive that people actually want to buy!
Rules are really cool, but pretty low/non-existent on the tech proficiency scale.
Y’all want “competitive markets” but it kinda helps to have something to compete with (money losing Spotify notwithstanding) 😉
Keep on celebrating your “win” EU!
Rules are really cool, but pretty low/non-existent on the tech proficiency scale.
Y’all want “competitive markets” but it kinda helps to have something to compete with (money losing Spotify notwithstanding) 😉
Keep on celebrating your “win” EU!
Coalition for app fairness has quite a few devs. And some big ones that are generally silent on apple ie match group.
Netflix isn’t a fan, as you can’t buy a subscription through the app.
Question really is : where are the devs who love apple nowadays?
I’m not saying there isn’t. The guy behind widgetsmith seems happy with apple.
But I’m not seeing many large developers who are friendly towards apple.
Netflix isn’t a fan, as you can’t buy a subscription through the app.
Question really is : where are the devs who love apple nowadays?
I’m not saying there isn’t. The guy behind widgetsmith seems happy with apple.
But I’m not seeing many large developers who are friendly towards apple.
Where in anything I said imply I have little faith in Apple? I mentioned that allowing the alternate stores will require opening up the OS. As has been said repeatedly over the last 28 pages there may be no restrictions on the alternate stores. Depending on how literally that is to be taken it could require a big hole
The rest of my post had to do pointing out that one person opting into alternate stores MAY have negative consequences for those who do not.
Demonstrably wrong, if you you look at Epic, Microsoft, Paddle, Fastspring or others.
Are you trying to make an argument there - or just bashing the European Union?
As someone formerly in the EU, we had an amazing software and hardware industry. This was sold to the Chinese and Americans by the Dutch. And we sold our IP to Japan.
This was done under the gaze of the EU which were strangely missing from the debate.