All you need is a couple bad actors in the alternative App Store submitting bad Apps
And let’s see what people say
And let’s see what people say
All you need is a couple bad actors in the alternative App Store submitting bad Apps
And let’s see what people say
I don't think they have to update the regulation. The issue is, that Alt-Stores are at a huge disadvantage right now in comparison to App Store Apps, especially if they are free.Yes. I work in the (US) government space, so well aware how regulations work. But until the EU updates the regulation, which is not a quick process, the fact of the matter is the DMA doesn’t ban gatekeepers from charging for their services. Google is imposing the same core user fee Apple is. So it’ll get litigated.
We know what they will say, because there is precedent with "bad" apps in Apple's store. Even pretty bad financial scams related to phishing.All you need is a couple bad actors in the alternative App Store submitting bad Apps
And let’s see what people say
An iPhone is a lifestyle product.
Your existence depends on electricity. Think you can be in IT without electricity.
Medical devices, cpap machine, hvac units, light bulbs, cars, computers. Sure you can say we really don't need any of those but they really essential for a functioning life in the same demographic a cell would be used in. Not all people have smartphones, people do have cell phones, but in that demographic electricity is used to provide the functions of the above.Excluding food, what isn’t a lifestyle product?
Are you talking modern society or some remote island. Those people also don't have cell phones and probably don't have to worry about 2fa to initiate some financial transaction.750 million people worldwide live without electricity.
The tricky question is, in the modern world, can you have electricity without smartphones? 🧐Medical devices, cpap machine, hvac units, light bulbs, cars, computers. Sure you can say we really don't need any of those but they really essential for a functioning life in the same demographic a cell would be used in. Not all people have smartphones, people do have cell phones, but in that demographic electricity is used to provide the functions of the above.
Medical devices, cpap machine, hvac units, light bulbs, cars, computers. Sure you can say we really don't need any of those but they really essential for a functioning life in the same demographic a cell would be used in. Not all people have smartphones, people do have cell phones, but in that demographic electricity is used to provide the functions of the above.
Every one of those are products to improve the quality of life. Life went on without them.Are you talking modern society or some remote island. Those people also don't have cell phones and probably don't have to worry about 2fa to initiate some financial transaction.
All arguing like the EU didn't already define Apple and Google's platforms as core services.
Isn‘t that how this will work?Depends where this ends.
Controlled app stores that are quality assured, and only notarised apps running, is for me preferable to a Wild West where malware and bad actors could be rife.
Isn‘t that how this will work?
I think you’re making my point.Every one of those are products to improve the quality of life. Life went on without them.
Listening to the comment she still doesn’t say fees are not allowed. Just that they cannot be prohibitive (make difficult), whatever that means in practice.Then they should have written that in the regulation. They didn’t. So it’ll get litigated.
I've purchased high-quality Mac apps from independent developers that used Fastspring. So they're relevant for me.Oh, my bad, I should have said “every other *relevant* software distribution service” 😉
Freeing them from the shackles of Apple will certainly help that.Just think how much more exciting the tech industry would be if the EU were actually competing instead of just making rules
"The Commission is empowered to adopt delegated acts in accordance with Article 49 to supplement this Regulation with regard to the obligations laid down in Articles 5 and 6. Those delegated acts shall be based on a market investigation pursuant to Article 19 that has identified the need to keep those obligations up to date in order to address practices that limit the contestability of core platform services or that are unfair in the same way as the practices addressed by the obligations laid down in Articles 5 and 6."until the EU updates the regulation, which is not a quick process
...as long as they don't undermine effective compliance with the rules and objectives of the regulation.the fact of the matter is the DMA doesn’t ban gatekeepers from charging for their services.
Thank you for confirming that iPhones are essential.computers. Sure you can say we really don't need any of those but they really essential for a functioning life in the same demographic
What is the incentive for alternate App Store not to police the apps in their store? Also it’s not like Apple has a perfect record when it comes to policing apps in the App Store.All you need is a couple bad actors in the alternative App Store submitting bad Apps
And let’s see what people say
What is the incentive for alternate App Store not to police the apps in their store?
According to Apple’s documentation:No - it’s a slippery slope, where those gaining will keep demanding more.
Already happens in the iOS App Store and believe it or not, the world does continue to go on.All you need is a couple bad actors in the alternative App Store submitting bad Apps
And let’s see what people say
There are also other ways to get electricity than going through the local power company, such as using a gas generator or solar panels. But that wouldn't be justification for the power company taxing appliance makers, ”because the appliance makers wouldn't exist if the utility company hadn't built the infrastructure for powering those appliances."There are other ways.
I recently had to transfer a large amount of money to buy a house. I ran into an issue because I didn't have a cell phone, so I couldn't provide some authentication the bank needed. My Windows PC was not an acceptable alternative in this situation. Something was eventually worked out, but we ended up having to postpone the closing date. Yeah, I could have used a generator... er, a flip-phone, instead but I didn't have one of those either.But to your point 2fa is not a quality of life as electricity is. Don’t make 2fa a basis for quality of life. It’s a fake argument.
Yes, it was easier to survive without the Internet when things that the Internet eventually replaced still existed.It makes me wonder how I did it back in the 80s/90s visiting countries like Brazil, Indonesia, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, China and so on without having internet nor a mobile phone…![]()