Yes there is. LOL, seriously studied - as in ones that agree with you.There is no dispute among the people who have seriously studied the issue.
Yes there is. LOL, seriously studied - as in ones that agree with you.There is no dispute among the people who have seriously studied the issue.
I'm sure that theory earned you a PhD.Anyone who studies climate patterns knows that there is an ebb and flow to them. That's just the way it works.
Or perhaps he makes these investments because he is genuinely convinced of the cause? And what about all those polititcians who only deny the science because they are in the (much deeper) pocket of the oil industry?It doesn't help your cause, though, when you are a big investor in green energy companies and then you tell everyone they have a responsibility to "go green" to save the planet.
No. The scientific consensus on climate change is as strong as it gets.Yes there is.
Yeah. It's the age of Trump, where knowledge and scientific methodology are insults and populist gut feeling rules.LOL, seriously studied - as in ones that agree with you.
Oil isn't going anywhere anytime soon. The hypocrisy of these companies is amazing. Without oil and petrochemicals, their business lines would cease to exist in no time. Oil is used in everything from the mining of raw materials, to manufacturing and processing of their products to shipping. And this whole thing about using renewables is just virtue signalling. Their efforts will have zero impact on global warming, or climate change, or whatever they call it these days. The climate has been changing since the dawn of time and it's ludicrous to think humans have any impact on it. CO2 is plant food, not pollution. I'm all for clean air, water and land, but this green religion called climate change is nothing but a sham.
Want a demonstration of how wrong you are? What planet is the hottest in the solar system? Mercury is closest to the sun... but it isnt' the hottest... not by a wide margin. Venus has a nice thick CO2 atmosphere and it holds in heat so well that it melts lead. That is what atmospheric CO2 does. Earth might have followed Venus except much of the carbon was locked away in the ground.Oil isn't going anywhere anytime soon. The hypocrisy of these companies is amazing. Without oil and petrochemicals, their business lines would cease to exist in no time. Oil is used in everything from the mining of raw materials, to manufacturing and processing of their products to shipping. And this whole thing about using renewables is just virtue signalling. Their efforts will have zero impact on global warming, or climate change, or whatever they call it these days. The climate has been changing since the dawn of time and it's ludicrous to think humans have any impact on it. CO2 is plant food, not pollution. I'm all for clean air, water and land, but this green religion called climate change is nothing but a sham.
Or perhaps he makes these investments because he is genuinely convinced of the cause? And what about all those polititcians who only deny the science because they are in the (much deeper) pocket of the oil industry?
Please name it.
Oil isn't going anywhere anytime soon. The hypocrisy of these companies is amazing. Without oil and petrochemicals, their business lines would cease to exist in no time. Oil is used in everything from the mining of raw materials, to manufacturing and processing of their products to shipping. And this whole thing about using renewables is just virtue signalling. Their efforts will have zero impact on global warming, or climate change, or whatever they call it these days. The climate has been changing since the dawn of time and it's ludicrous to think humans have any impact on it. CO2 is plant food, not pollution. I'm all for clean air, water and land, but this green religion called climate change is nothing but a sham.
Are we all in agreement? No. Then my point stands - we are all in dispute.
No we are not! There is no dispute. Climate scientists have come to the conclusion years ago that our climate is changing and that natural causes alone cannot explain what we are seeing. Period.
The dispute is in political circles, because the solution (cutting back on emissions) goes against their agenda. So they introduced uncertainty and doubt. With success.
So no. THERE IS NO DISPUTE. The science is there, the data is there. There is no doubt. The only doubt you will here is from politicians who have their own agenda.
There is a lot more greed and vested interest on one side than the other.There are greedy people on both sides of the fence on this issue. Period.
I don't give a **** about Al Gore and have no idea why you even bring him into this discussion. But anyway, from what I know, the vast majority of his money came from the sale of Current TV, hedge fund investments and various lucrative advisory and corporate positions (including on Apple's board of directors).It seems clear that you're on Al Gore's side on this debate. I think anyone who goes from having 2M in assets to having 100M in assets in 11 years as a green energy investor (as Al Gore did) should expect to have their motives scrutinized.
What is Tim's carbon foot print from his manufacturing and assembly facilities in China? Great to brag about your office in California, what about manufacturing?
If Apple moved all manufacturing to the US, I wonder if Tim would be singing a different song.
I'm neither for nor against (human caused) climate change, I think it's fine if people want to be green, but the temperature thing is interesting. According to the data, in the last 100 or more years the global temperature has risen 1C. Really that's it? That's what we are concerned about? That's what we are throwing billions of dollars towards?
I can't believe your great post has fewer likes than the ramblings of a non-scientist. Then again America elected Donald Trump so...
In fact, the loan program you are talking about produced a profit for the tax payer:Look no farther than the stimulus spending during Obama's first term.
There were several "green energy" companies that took federal money and subsequently went bankrupt. The US taxpayer lost billions.
It's vastly tilted to one side.I don't disagree that a lot of people have a financial stake in "climate change". But, it's not accurate to say that it's only on one side.
The reason why the Trump policy makes sense is the Obama policy unilaterally makes domestic firms less competitive as compared to gross polluters in China and other developing countries. The Trump policy does not preclude domestic firms from being eco-friendly and the proposed tax policy will allow IMMEDIATE EXPENSING of eco-friendly equipment, services, and R&D. Major deal, different approach. Less prescriptive, more incentivized.
If Cook actually manufactured products in the USA, then he would have a different view on Trump's policy.
In fact, the loan program you are talking about produced a profit for the tax payer:
http://www.npr.org/2014/11/13/363572151/after-solyndra-loss-u-s-energy-loan-program-turning-a-profit
A few startups (such as Solyndra) failed, but more were successful and paid back the loans with interest.