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Apple Rejects Official Google Voice iPhone Application
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I know, lol. Arn elected to put these stories on the front page instead:
"What Will be the Killer Feature of an Apple Tablet?"
and
"Apple Releases MobileMe iDisk Application for iPhone"
Even though 723 news sources are reporting on Apple rejecting GV (according to google news). SOMETHING STINKS@MACRUMORS!
The Symbian Signed process was created to ensure that apps that needed certain "capabilities" (which makes up most of them, so is therefore pretty much compulsory) wouldn't damage the stability and security of the OS, making sure the application doesn't leave stuff behind when uninstalled among other things (it's a while since I last read the test criteria). It also helped to stop the few viruses that were released.
I wouldn't know what phone you had, but I believe that apps had to be signed from S60 v3 / Symbian v9.
Of course, at least with the Symbian way you can get any app you want signed for your own phone, when you want, for free. No "we won't sign it because it duplicates other features or "xyz carrier doesn't like it".
Yep. This is strange, and it makes me wonder about the integrity of the site.
Perhaps the macrumors slogan should be changed to "news and rumors Apple wants you to care about."
Yet ANOTHER whiny thread about how "AT&T and Apple" are horrible companies. I can see why this was rejected.
What this app allows is the "cheap" people a workaround to getting around having to pay for larger text message and minute plans, and from a business standpoint, I understand why it was rejected. These companies aren't out there to give us everything for free, the whole point of a business is to make a profit. If you want the phone, get it. If you don't like it, stop whining and get rid of it. Simple as that.
As for me, I'm perfectly happy with my phone just the way it is.
That's because you are a clueless sheep, eager to eat up whatever crap you're being fed by Apple/AT&T conglomerate.
Google Voice (and Grand Central before that) offer tremendous flexibility and control over your calling and messaging. It's not like anything AT&T, or even any VoIP companies such as Skype have ever offered.
You can choose to be dismissive about it, and reduce it to something being "for cheap" people. But that only highlights your own ignorance.
Got this from another site
A couple key things worth noting for those that have not ever used Google Voice:
- Voice calls DO count against your carrier minutes
- Outgoing text messages are free, but if you dont turn off the setting to forward SMS messages to your regular cell number (Settings->Phones->Edit->Uncheck Receive SMS on this phone), incoming text messages will count against your plan since they are forwarded to the stock Messages app by Google Voice. The downside to doing this is you will have no way of knowing you received a text since neither Google Voice nor GV Mobile make use of Push. With SMS forwarding off, you have to manually check for messages using GV Mobile or the GV web app. However, you can use Growl in combination with Prowl to take care of this, and send you Push notifications when a text is received. Works great. Highly recommended.
Just thought it important to point out the subtleties of these features, especially the (partially) free SMS, since most articles you read fail to mention its not completely free (incoming and outgoing).
DeftOne on July 28th, 2009 11:14 pm:
Just to clarify
With SMS forwarding off and Growl + Prowl setup properly, you do get 100% completely free texting (incoming and outgoing) with Push notifications. Goodbye texting plan!
A couple key things worth noting for those that have not ever used Google Voice:
- Voice calls DO count against your carrier minutes
- Outgoing text messages are free, but if you dont turn off the setting to forward SMS messages to your regular cell number (Settings->Phones->Edit->Uncheck Receive SMS on this phone), incoming text messages will count against your plan since they are forwarded to the stock Messages app by Google Voice. The downside to doing this is you will have no way of knowing you received a text since neither Google Voice nor GV Mobile make use of Push. With SMS forwarding off, you have to manually check for messages using GV Mobile or the GV web app. However, you can use Growl in combination with Prowl to take care of this, and send you Push notifications when a text is received. Works great. Highly recommended.
Just thought it important to point out the subtleties of these features, especially the (partially) free SMS, since most articles you read fail to mention its not completely free (incoming and outgoing).
DeftOne on July 28th, 2009 11:14 pm:
Just to clarify
With SMS forwarding off and Growl + Prowl setup properly, you do get 100% completely free texting (incoming and outgoing) with Push notifications. Goodbye texting plan!
I hope all you whiners enjoy your ugly Android phones with crappy OS and piss poor UI.
We all know the iPhone is a million miles ahead of every other mobile device in the marketplace. And you are all under expensive long contracts. You are going nowhere realistically for at least another year.
Given the money AT&T is paying Apple for the exclusivity arrangement, they have every reason to protect the revenues of the carrier. That money is needed to help Apple continue to drive forward with innovative products in this market.
We all know the iPhone is a million miles ahead of every other mobile device in the marketplace. And you are all under expensive long contracts. You are going nowhere realistically for at least another year.
Given the money AT&T is paying Apple for the exclusivity arrangement, they have every reason to protect the revenues of the carrier. That money is needed to help Apple continue to drive forward with innovative products in this market.
The *ONLY* reason I am with AT&T is for the iPhone. I can NOT wait until the iPhone is available on multiple carriers. I really hope that Apple gets smart and drops the exclusive AT&T contracts and opens it up to Sprint and/or T-Mobile. Verizon is gonna have to wait until they finish rolling out their GSM network, which is going to be a few more years at least.
I just really can't wait to be able to call up a new carrier and switch my number away from AT&T. They have been nothing but problems since I got this phone. The device it self is awesome, but the network its on is total crap. AT&T should really be ashamed with them selves.
I just really can't wait to be able to call up a new carrier and switch my number away from AT&T. They have been nothing but problems since I got this phone. The device it self is awesome, but the network its on is total crap. AT&T should really be ashamed with them selves.
I should think not. Apple has to protect revenues for all its exclusive partners worldwide. The Apps have been pulled globally as far as I know.
I wonder if such popular apps like TextFree will be seeing the "duplicate feature" rejections now.
I can see a problem if GV used the data network to carry voice, but I think someone at AT&T just misunderstood the service.
I can see a problem if GV used the data network to carry voice, but I think someone at AT&T just misunderstood the service.
To support your argument
I've got the change to purchase GV before it was pulled off and I am loving it. It gives me access to my google voice's call history, visual voicemail, and sms and the ability to add/select the phone number to ring/to forward google voice to.
As far as google voice goes, I can't believe I am getting all of those goodies for free from google. I now have the abilities to filter the unwanted calls, to route a specific call to a specific phone number, to greet people with different messages or languages depending on their caller ID's.
I've got the change to purchase GV before it was pulled off and I am loving it. It gives me access to my google voice's call history, visual voicemail, and sms and the ability to add/select the phone number to ring/to forward google voice to.
As far as google voice goes, I can't believe I am getting all of those goodies for free from google. I now have the abilities to filter the unwanted calls, to route a specific call to a specific phone number, to greet people with different messages or languages depending on their caller ID's.
How is this not a violation of antitrust laws?
Yeah, isn't that kind of tantamount to the same sort of things Microsoft did in regards to browsers that got them in so much trouble with the EU? Except, you know, 1000 times worse, because you can at least install Firefox on Windows no matter how much Microsoft doesn't want you to?
Yeah, isn't that kind of tantamount to the same sort of things Microsoft did in regards to browsers that got them in so much trouble with the EU? Except, you know, 1000 times worse, because you can at least install Firefox on Windows no matter how much Microsoft doesn't want you to?
Android here I come...I can't wait until July 2010 when my iPhone contract expires and there is more variety of Android equipped phones
Android here I come...I can't wait until July 2010 when my iPhone contract expires and there is more variety of Android equipped phones
HTC Hero... Looks amazing.
Ready to trade in my 3G when that comes out. Didn't T-Mobile force Google to remove the Android tethering app from the Android store?Android here I come...I can't wait until July 2010 when my iPhone contract expires and there is more variety of Android equipped phones
Is the average Android user able to install an app if it's not available from the Android store?
If not, it sounds like you'd be jumping into the same situation.
HTC Hero... Looks amazing.
Um, you might want to read Engadget's review first...
http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/htc-hero-review/
Im no lawyer, but...
Congress has NO business making Apple do anything in APPLE'S app store.
This is the exact reason I have not bought an iphone. (Other than verizon, but I cannot justify switching carriers to get a cool device, then only do what apple lets me/wants me to do with it)
Quit bitching and just dont buy another iphone, or if you REALLY are THAT upset, dont buy ANY more apple products. That is how our marketplace is SUPPOSED to work.
The more the feds get involved in our marketplace, the more I want to puke
Congress has NO business making Apple do anything in APPLE'S app store.
This is the exact reason I have not bought an iphone. (Other than verizon, but I cannot justify switching carriers to get a cool device, then only do what apple lets me/wants me to do with it)
Quit bitching and just dont buy another iphone, or if you REALLY are THAT upset, dont buy ANY more apple products. That is how our marketplace is SUPPOSED to work.
The more the feds get involved in our marketplace, the more I want to puke
I hope all you whiners enjoy your ugly Android phones with crappy OS and piss poor UI.
We all know the iPhone is a million miles ahead of every other mobile device in the marketplace. And you are all under expensive long contracts. You are going nowhere realistically for at least another year.
You keep drinking the (overpriced and underfeatured) Apple kool-aid.
I assume you think that the Android UI, and presumably other OSes, is only "piss poor" and "crappy" because it isn't made by a certain company in Cupertino? If it was an Apple product I'm sure you'll be claiming it's a massive innovation.
You enjoy your overpriced phone that lacks in features and only lets you use what the Blessed Apple have allowed you to install. I'll be saving money (the phone was as expensive as an iPhone can be, but it is 3 years old and still isn't outdated. The original iPhone looks crap nowadays. I also pay far less to the carrier I CHOOSED to use, too) and enjoying the features that my Nokia has to offer, or indeed what any software developer wants to offer.
I'm not responding for eksodos, but I think the Android looks "piss poor" and "crappy" because, well, it does. And I think the Palm UI (note: NOT FROM APPLE) looks beautiful. Even more beautiful than the iPhone UI, actually.
And your point "if Android were from Apple" is moot, because frankly Apple would not release a UI that looks like that. Period. At least not in the 21st century.
This whole anti-fanboy fanboy "you only criticize something because it's not from Apple" argument is tired and trite. Stuff deserves criticism whether it be from Apple or from other companies.
Even more tired is the "I can't think of anything intelligent to say" line about "kool-aid." Because, you know, anyone who doesn't agree with you must be part of a brainwashed cult or something.
Troll Different. And enjoy the Android kool-aid. (See what I did there?)
Oh, and the original iPhone still looks better than any other phone on the market, including the current iPhone.
I'd love to see your 3-year-old phone that doesn't look outdated.