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Apple Rejects Official Google Voice iPhone Application
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The more the feds get involved in our marketplace, the more I want to puke
Except the day you get screwed by a company and you need the FTC's help
Oh, and the original iPhone still looks better than any other phone on the market, including the current iPhone.
I'd love to see your 3-year-old phone that doesn't look outdated.
Android kool-aid? If anything I am a Nokia fanboy.
Anyway, I have a Nokia N95.
Camera - N95 has 5MP with Carl Zeiss lens and LED flash plus 1.3MP camera for video calling, iPhone has what, 2mp with crap lens?
RAM - The N95-1 has 64MB of RAM, -2 has 128MB. What does the iPhone have? (probably more, but it is newer and runs OSX).
Mass storage - iPhone has more, but the N95 has an SD slot
Cellular - my N95 has had 3.6Mbit HSDPA from the off, iPhone took ages (plus 3 expensive revisions) to get there. Newer Nokias are probably at 7.2Mbit
Screen - the N95 has quite a rugged non-touchscreen, iPhone has a very fragile touchscreen. I prefer actually being able to feel buttons and know I can drop my phone.
Copy and paste, MMS, tethering, FM radio, SIP calling, replaceable battery, all features (not an exhaustive list) that the N95 has had (and S60 in general) for years. Apple introduces some and calls it an innovation, fanboys cream.
S60 phones have a number of application sources, and Nokia generally doesn't control what you can and cannot install. Certainly not on moral or "carrier doesn't like it" grounds. Far superior, in my opinion.
The N95, like just about every non-iPhone, is easily unlocked (out of the box, getting a code from the carrier, using slightly dodgier methods), and is available on any network (this isn't so much of an issue in the US, but I live in the UK, where it is).
Other nice things like giving me a TV-out cable and headset in the box, and not expecting me to pay for it.
So, yes, my phone does appear to be very much in date. In some ways it is superior to the N96 and N97. I know you will still claim that the iPhone is "revolutionary", but really it isn't. Perhaps it is compared to what you get in the US.
Congress, no. The Justice Department, yes. This is why anti-trust laws exist: to prevent one company from monopolizing a market and impeding competition.
Now I agree that Apple can do whatever it wants with it's App Store, but so too can the Justice Department (and/or European Union) take legal action against Apple for anti-competitive practices. I hope they do. It will benefit us all if Apple is forced to compete on a level playing field with competitors and independent developers alike.
no, apple can do as they please
its THEIR store
competition? whos making you buy or develop for an iphone when there are other platforms?
stop complaining. i agree it sucks but its within their right
It's YOUR phone though, and without jailbreaking it won't work with anything but THEIR store.
Why should Apple be allowed to dictate (ignoring jailbreaking) what software may be installed on a device that you own?
The EU is currently having a go at MS because they happen to bundle a browser with their OS. At least MS aren't preventing you from installing a non-MS browser, like Apple is preventing you from installing something that allegedly "duplicates features that the iPhone already has".
No they can't. Read up on anti-trust laws and history of it both in US and other western countries. A key element of anti-trust laws:
"prohibiting agreements or practices that restrict free trading and competition between business entities"
That is exactly what Apple is engaged in here (together with AT&T). They created a closed system guaranteeing them profits (30% cut of all apps sold), and they artificially restrict competing applications that may encroach onto their turf from participating in this marketplace. That is a classic anti-competitive practice.
As it's been pointed out here numerous times - Microsoft has been slapped all over the place (both by US DoJ and more recently EU Commission) for much lesser crimes. Namely bundling IE with Windows, instead of giving a consumer a clear choice of browsers (despite the fact you can easily installed a competing browser afterwards, something that's not even possible with Apple/iPhone). Your argument of "it's Microsoft OS and they can do what they want" has been soundly rejected by US and International courts.
Apple is next on the list, if they continue to engage in these sorts of practices.
Look up competition....Yea this argument doesn't fit. It is their store and there are MANY other platforms. You're just bitter it's the app store thats affected, your store of choice
I'm pissed nintendo doesn't allow for some genres of games
This is quite amusing to hear this "justification"lol
Yep, Android FTW!
Apple is going to regret this. 20+ android phones are planned for release by most major cellphone makers. Android will be king in a couple of years.
I think you really don't know what you are talking about. I am a an iPhone developer myself and not happy with all the BS going on with the arcane appstore policies but Apple have their asses pretty much covered.
Emphasis mine. This is the portion that I haven't seen many people here talking about. If a developer cannot accept the words from a senior VP, from a man who has given the keynotes to prior Apple conferences in Steve Jobs' absence, when said VP states "your APP will be approved", whose word at Apple can you believe? Seriously, if I was a developer at any company, this alone would make me take pause before committing the resources to developing any further apps for this closed platform for fear of arbitrary rejections. If Apple will reject an app that one of their senior officers already gave a verbal blessing for, this would not give me confidence that any app that I make would ever be accepted regardless of prior promises. Yes, I understand that a lot of Apps have been approved, but still - anything that "threatens Apple or their carriers" could be called off without any rebuttal from the developers /shudder.
Now, I'm not saying that all things said by Apple are downright lies (I want to address straw man bandits in advance here) - I actually do trust them more than most corporations. And, I'm not even saying that Phil here knowingly "lied" - he may have not known about what arbitrary "metrics" the App store maintainers were using to deny distributions of Apps. I'm just saying that a verbal OK from a senior officer at Apple can no longer carry any weight in any development decisions in the future for other companies and individual developers. If I was in the position to choose future products that a company would create, I'd be wary of greenlighting any useful "App for the iPhone" development given this potential show stopper.
were you forced to buy the iphone?
did you not know you have to have itunes to use the iphone?
fact is, no one is making you buy it
the windows argument is because they had the marketshare. you cnat say the smart phone market is only the iphone
you all just want/have the iphone so of course you think its unfair...it isnt
You just don't get it, do you. They cannot create a marketplace that artificially restricts certain competition, thus guaranteeing themselves & AT&T maximum profits. That is the exact sort of thing that anti-trust laws are designed to prevent. And the bigger iPhone market share gets - the more likely they are to be hit with DoJ/EU suit.
The fact that there are other Mobile platforms/app stores is irrelevant. Microsoft have tried the same defense - "oh but you can use Linux or Mac OS" as a competing alternative to Windows. We all know where this line of defense got them in the court of law.
Mark my word - Apple is on a very dangerous ground here.
No sir, you don't quite get it.
The iphone is a cell phone. They have a contract with ATT. ATT subsidizes the phone. They have a right to protect that. You signed a contract with ATT.
Your argument is laughable as it has no merit at all.....not to mention the iphone USES ATT's network
Hardly. There are other providers, there are other phones and there are smart phones that rival if not exceed the iphone in usgae
The iphone has no where near a monoploy and there is no evidence that apple is restriciting anyone from enetering that market, or creating a app store for themselves
You just have a lot of wishful thinking as it affects you negatively. That's all it is, wishful thinking. The competition is everywhere and you are by NO means forced to use an iphone
Try and understand that concept before running the whole anti competitive argument
Yes, but the iPhone was never considered to be totally open.
There is nothing inherently wrong with a monopoly. The problems start when the monopoly does something that prevents a competitor from entering or competing in the market.
The market isn't OS X, its operating systems. The market isn't iPhone OS X, its smartphones.
They interrupted the law correctly.
Yes you could say there are "sub markets", but you are being to granular. The market would be something like "wireless devices". You could split that into cellphones and smartphones. The smartphone market consists RIM, Nokia, HTC, Apple, etc.
Each manufacturer has a natural monopoly on their own products. Microsoft is the only company who can produce Windows, or Xbox. Sony is the only company who can make Playstation.
This is exactly how the market is supposed to work, vote with your wallet.
sick of apple and at&T's ********
Im getting a bit fed up with AT&T and Apple's ********. I'm literally paying 3x what I'd pay for the same plan at T Mobile, the App Store is rejecting apps for no good reason, they're stifling innovation, and the service is getting lousier and lousier.
Plus the quality of Apple workmanship is sloppy - I'm about to get my THIRD iphone under warranty because this thing is defective. Sure it's "easy" but how about "functional?" instead?
The new Gphone coming out next month is starting to look better and better. Same functionality for 1/3 the price? Sure why not.
Im getting a bit fed up with AT&T and Apple's ********. I'm literally paying 3x what I'd pay for the same plan at T Mobile, the App Store is rejecting apps for no good reason, they're stifling innovation, and the service is getting lousier and lousier.
Plus the quality of Apple workmanship is sloppy - I'm about to get my THIRD iphone under warranty because this thing is defective. Sure it's "easy" but how about "functional?" instead?
The new Gphone coming out next month is starting to look better and better. Same functionality for 1/3 the price? Sure why not.
Are you sure about that? I had T Mobile before I got my iPhone, and it was cheaper than AT&T but not by that much.
Unless T Mobile is giving you a free data plan and has cut the cost of their voice plans, I don't see the 3x claim being close to accurate.
If you are right (link please?) I may have to look into unlocking my iPhone for T Mobile.
As for Android...it still looks like garbage to me. Perhaps over time...
It amazes how the hardcore apple fanboys cant even admit when Apple is being f-ed up. I bet if Apple started a child prostitution ring, the fanboys would still support them.
I like Apple products as much as the other guy, but Apple is making piss poor excuses.
I like Apple products as much as the other guy, but Apple is making piss poor excuses.
Exactly.
Do people confuse
Bejeweled with Jewel Quest
Pandora with Last.FM
iFart with any other fart app
the list goes on and on.
The Google Voice app for Android works great, im sure the iPhone app was just as good.