Apple Releases $49 Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter Alongside New MacBook Pro

[Aldaris]

This is one of many reasons why I'll stay as far away from this "update" as possible. At the prices they're charging, they should include adapters for USB, HDMI, and thunderbolt in the box. I won't play your game, Cook. I'm done.

And watch the apologists start attacking in 3, 2, 1...
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Nobody asked for your opinion, Jony.

I remember my first iBook G3 came with video adapters (VGA at the minimum possibly a composite video too), and you could always buy additional ones.

I am thinking my 2012 rMBP has a good few more years in it. Maxed out the ram to 16 GB, and upgraded the SSD to a Transcend 960GB module. I'll let others be the 1st gen Guinea pigs this go 'round.

My bet is this is an effort (ridiculous upsale- so much that Phil has already done PR repair) to recoup funds from the all but failed Titan project.

 

[HappyMacGuy]

Release the Dongles!!

 

[butterburger cookybutter]

It is cheaper and it seems less bulky than the Startech (which I had to wait months for, leaving me with a useless USB-C port). The Startech is not bidirectional AFAIK.

That one is Intel's reference design. Startech did not design/engineer anything about it. They just order it with their name printed on it and burned in its ROM, and simply design what box it comes in. I never did see any mention from Intel of a bi-directional adapter, so I wonder if this has another custom Apple chip in it?

So if you already have Thunderbolt to xzy you can now make a dongle snake!

Perfect example: this adapter + Apple's Thunderbolt "1" to FireWire adapter + FireWire bilingual to six-pin receptacle adapter + FireWire six-pin to four-pin receptacle adapter + 1394 4-pin to 4-pin cable + DV camcorder.

 

[Gasu E.]

What about including a usb-c to every port the older version had in the box, free of charge? Next thing you know, Apple's gonna make you pay $100 extra if you want your mac shipped in a box.

Have you considered the waste and expensive of forcing everyone to take a lot of adapters they don't need?

 

[bopajuice]

Sometimes I think they are playing the "how much **** can our customers take" game.

The question is how much can you take? Kind of like American politics. How far are you willing to go to support the Apple party?
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Oh look. Another article. Another thread of whining.

Do you like to continually throw money away to support Apple?

If you are happy paying $3,000 to $4,000 for a real world usable laptop in programs like FCP go for it.

Hope you are not a CPA or financial advisor.

 

[grayskyz]

The question is how much can you take? Kind of like American politics. How far are you willing to go to support the Apple party?
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Do you like to continually throw money away to support Apple?

If you are happy paying $3,000 to $4,000 for a real world usable laptop in programs like FCP go for it.

Hope you are not a CPA or financial advisor.

Smart man disagrees with your financial decisions, is smarter than you for not spending $49 Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter. lol

 

[smorrissey]

$49 USD. Or for our valued UK customers, £149 GBP.

That's incorrect 49GBP
http://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MMEL2/thunderbolt-3-usb-c-to-thunderbolt-2-adapter?fnode=4c

 

[bopajuice]

I believe that Apple departments work independently of each other. When one department releases a product they don't necessarily converse with other departments. Next thing you know they realize they have to release adapters and cables so their products can all play together. So much for the Apple Ecosystem philosophy.

 

[Icaras]

The question is how much can you take? Kind of like American politics. How far are you willing to go to support the Apple party?
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Do you like to continually throw money away to support Apple?

If you are happy paying $3,000 to $4,000 for a real world usable laptop in programs like FCP go for it.

Hope you are not a CPA or financial advisor.

Sure, I'd be happy to "give" my money to Apple. When the new iMac comes out I'm most likely going to be spending over $3000 for it.

Is $3000 - $4000 for a high end Mac expensive to you? If so, you really should get to know Apple's pricing history. This is nothing new and should come to no surprise to anyone who's invested in Macs in the past.

 

[bopajuice]

Actually very nice for devices like my 2011 iMac without USB 3.0 but with Thunderbolt, so we can plugin fast and cheap USB-C drives.

Cheap USB-C? Every external hard drive or attachment that uses USB-C of Thunderbolt that I have seen costs way more than USB 3.0
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Sure, I'm happy to "give" my money to Apple. When the new iMac comes out I'm most likely will be spending over $3000 for it.

Is $3000 - $4000 for a high end Mac expensive to you? If so, you really should get to know Apple's pricing history. This is nothing new and should come to no surprise to anyone who's invested in Macs in the past.

Been with Apple for 20 years. By boasting I assume you are paying cash? If not after your finance charges you will be paying $6,000 for a computer that is not even state of the art. For me enough is enough. I have paid too much for Apple products in the past, but when I start to see other products with more advanced hardware for less, I can't help but wonder and look elsewhere.

 

[Icaras]

Cheap USB-C? Every external hard drive or attachment that uses USB-C of Thunderbolt that I have seen costs way more than USB 3.0
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Been with Apple for 20 years. But enough is enough. I have paid too much in the past, but when I start to see other products with more advanced hardware for less, I can't help but wonder.

If you've been with Apple for 20 years then you should remember that with every introduction of new tech, there is always an initial price hike, and as time goes by, Apple gradually lowers prices to be affordable to a more mass market crowd. When the MacBook Air was first released in 2008, it's asking price was $1799. They dropped the SuperDrive like they did the standard ports in the new Pro and people kicked and screamed just like they are doing now. And to add a 64GB SSD upgrade? $1000. Again, nothing new. We've been here before and we'll revisit high prices again in the future.

But hey that's why we've got choices. Really, have fun and enjoy with whatever you ultimately choose.

 

[grayskyz]

I believe that Apple departments work independently of each other. When one department releases a product they don't necessarily converse with other departments. Next thing you know they realize they have to release adapters and cables so their products can all play together. So much for the Apple Ecosystem philosophy.

It's amazing how wrong you are.

 

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Oh look. Another article. Another thread of whining.

Oh look, another blindly loyal customer that likes taking it up the tailpipe and can't fathom why others would be upset about their tailpipe being violated.

 

[Floris]

I might have to add a todo item to check the forums in a few months and ask people that write books, or do premiere stuff or photoshop stuff .. after buying and real world using the new rMBP .. if their desk is as cluttered as I worry it might be. 4 usb-c ports (amazing!) but.. how many hubs, adapters, cables, etc will they actually have on their system just to be able to use their logitech mouse, wacom tablet, import their sdcard or compactflash, or power their nas backup, or have an external monitor. How much cluttered over say having todays' iMac.

 

[bopajuice]

It's amazing how wrong you are.

Please explain to me why everyone who just bought an iPhone 7 and wants a new MacBook will have to buy an adapter.

Do you admire the way Apple can milk another 30 to 40 bucks out of their customers that we should not have to pay and can't understand because we are not professionals?

 

[Carlanga]

That one is Intel's reference design. Startech did not design/engineer anything about it. They just order it with their name printed on it and burned in its ROM, and simply design what box it comes in. I never did see any mention from Intel of a bi-directional adapter, so I wonder if this has another custom Apple chip in it?



Perfect example: this adapter + Apple's Thunderbolt "1" to FireWire adapter + FireWire bilingual to six-pin receptacle adapter + FireWire six-pin to four-pin receptacle adapter + 1394 4-pin to 4-pin cable + DV camcorder.

Wow DV camcorder.

 

[grayskyz]

Please explain to me why everyone who just bought an iPhone 7 and wants a new MacBook will have to buy an adapter.

Do you admire the way Apple can milk another 30 to 40 bucks out of their customers that we should not have to pay and can't understand because we are not professionals?

Wait, so if I bought a iPhone 7 I must buy a MacBook Pro?

You don't have to but you can if you want to. I have wifi and I can wirelessly sync if I choose. I can choose to plug into the wall or my battery pack. This adapter is 10 bucks. You don't have to spend 40 bucks. Rest easy friend.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015...&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=usbc+adapter

 

[bopajuice]

Wait, so if I bought a iPhone 7 I must buy a MacBook Pro?

You don't have to but you can if you want to. I have wifi and I can wirelessly sync if I choose. I can choose to plug into the wall or my battery pack. This adapter is 10 bucks. You don't have to spend 40 bucks. Rest easy friend.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015...&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=usbc+adapter

Thanks for clearing that up I am so much more relaxed. My comment was "If anyone with an iPhone 7 and WANTS a MacBook"... No one is forcing you to do anything. My point was in reference to your original comment that my suspicions that departments don't communicate is wrong.

I am going to move on now with the opinion that either Apple departments don't communicate with each other or they don't think these things through.

Either that or this nickel and dime adapter stuff was all planned out. Sort of like not including batteries with a flashlight I guess.

 

[carestudio]

Great, it's only 49 dollars and now I can use it for all my Thunderbolt 2 devices. Got CalDigit's thunderbolt 2 dock for a couple years, and love it. This adapter can bridge my new Thunderbolt 3 Mac to the old Thunderbolt 2 dock. Nice!

Another must have adapters for the new Thunderbolt 3 Mac are
https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-quality-ChromeBook-Thunderbolt-Computers/dp/B01AO9487M/
https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-quality-ChromeBook-Thunderbolt-Computers/dp/B01K1MKN0S/

you will need them to output video to VGA or HDMI monitors.

 

[beanbaguk]

So wait...my perfectly good TB/2 adapter is now useless. My USB3 memory drives are now useless (or I can buy adapters), I need an adapter regardless for a ton of my current accessories. I also need to replace all of my lightning cables with USB-C variants or buy more adapters. (Having just one will be a HUGE ball-ache as I have cables everywhere.

If I switch to an iPhone 7, I need an adapter to drive my 3.5mm $400 headphones....

This is not innovation Apple.

I'm all for new ports but there needs to be a significant transition period. They're getting this so wrong and it's killing me. I've invested so much in Apple around my home, and I guarantee you businesses will be very reluctant when selecting the new MBP. Imagine the cost of replacing all those gigabit dongles?!

In my office we have 400 employees. About half of us use Macs. That's almost a $10k replacement cost in dongles alone!!!!

On top of what, has anyone in Apple considered the environmental impact of all this waste?

Tim Cook needs to go.

 

[commander.data]

That one is Intel's reference design. Startech did not design/engineer anything about it. They just order it with their name printed on it and burned in its ROM, and simply design what box it comes in. I never did see any mention from Intel of a bi-directional adapter, so I wonder if this has another custom Apple chip in it?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9331/intel-announces-thunderbolt-3

Intel promised bi-directional Thunderbolt - Thunderbolt 3 adapters when Thunderbolt 3 was first announced. (3rd last slide) I've read backward compatibility turned out to be more complicated than originally anticipated and I guess no one wanted to invest the effort into figuring it out until Apple did now.

 

[0388631]

Apple is run by the Baldricks of the world.

 

[Floris]

So wait...my perfectly good TB/2 adapter is now useless. My USB3 memory drives are now useless (or I can buy adapters), I need an adapter regardless for a ton of my current accessories. I also need to replace all of my lightning cables with USB-C variants or buy more adapters. (Having just one will be a HUGE ball-ache as I have cables everywhere.

If I switch to an iPhone 7, I need an adapter to drive my 3.5mm $400 headphones....

This is not innovation Apple.

I'm all for new ports but there needs to be a significant transition period. They're getting this so wrong and it's killing me. I've invested so much in Apple around my home, and I guarantee you businesses will be very reluctant when selecting the new MBP. Imagine the cost of replacing all those gigabit dongles?!

In my office we have 400 employees. About half of us use Macs. That's almost a $10k replacement cost in dongles alone!!!!

On top of what, has anyone in Apple considered the environmental impact of all this waste?

Tim Cook needs to go.

People will find out the first time they are traveling when they need it the most, etc.

 

[carestudio]

Wait for it...the $49 Thunderbolt 3 to HDMI adaptor is coming next. And probably an SD card one as well.

It's there already. Only 19 dollars or less and it works with Thunderbolt 3 Macs.
https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-quality-ChromeBook-Thunderbolt-Computers/dp/B01K1MKN0S/
https://www.amazon.com/CalDigit-Thunderbolt-Compatible-Chromebook-Converter/dp/B018T39GN6/

 

[Aldaris]

Apple is run by the Baldricks of the world.

Are you suggesting we get Tim a large turnip and a place in the country