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Mainyehc said:
And now, the final comparison:
20GB
$416 (4G) - $399 (3G) = $17
That's it, it will cost you seventeen bucks more... 😡
40GB
$477 (4G) - $499 (3G) = $-22
$22 cheaper, now that's a sweet deal... Apart from the fact you'll have to wait for the separate accessories to ship/be available at retail stores... And having all those boxes to tear open 🙄

For Windows Users they also save $19 on the USB 2.0 cable (and don't have to have 2 wires running from the ipod to the PC/AC adapter, they'll just have one)

People who buy the remote seperatley will have an extra set of earphones 🙂

I think many will pass on the Apple Case ($39 is stupid for that case, you can get a nice Skin for $20)

So you can save even more on a 4G 40GB compared to a 3G 40GB
 
HasanDaddy said:
so should I wait for the 60 gigger??

do you guys think the 60 will have better features, by any chance???!
I say WAIT. Certainly this will happen (we know for sure that the drives exist) ... my guess is that 60s (or perhaps 50s) will come out before (or right after) Christmas. If it's after, it'll be announced in January for a big push into the new year. Don't expect any REVISIONS... just a bigger drive.

Apple will certainly keep this look for another 10-12 months. Then we'll probably see ipods that work with computer/Airport Express.
 
BeanTownBrawler said:
I believe you can get bigger, external HDDs for far less than an ipod

well i need the portable hd just occasionally. it then makes sense to combine the portable hd with the ipod. i just need to know how long it takes to download/upload 1gb via usb.

andi
 
available?

How is availability in your areas? I went to check my local Apple Stores and neither of them have new iPods... they say they will by the end of the week... =(

I'm sure the coasts probably have them...

curse you, Apple! Why must you always neglect us mid-westerners?!?!

Man, I was so set on buying my first iPod today =(

-Clive
 
Angelo said:
They used my line on the apple front page from a mock up that i did a while back. 😀
You should fix your URL as yours didn't work, but I knew what to put in to get to your picture...

that being said, that is very cool that GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE. Also, I think a design like you mocked up (albeit based entirely around the Apple mini) looks better than the 4G as it is now.

Also, it was funny that someone said that the sizes would be 30, 40 & 60, contrary to your 20, 40 & 60 -- and you were right! Well, we'll have to wait on the 60, but we know it's coming!

Great job!
 
andiwm2003 said:
hi, does anybody know, how fast the data transfer or the diskspeed on the new iPods are? i'd like to use a 40GB as a portable hard disk.

thanks, andy

It's a basic firewire HD - 4200rpm, USB2 and Firewire. You should be able to use it for most anything other than digital video... at least, I wouldn't use it for that....
 
uberman42 said:
The reason why there is no 60 GB is that Apple will be using it for a new camcorder that utilizes the HD. you'll be able to capture at least 4+ hours of DV quality video on the HD.

Sounds good to me 😎

I dunno - it'd be nice, but I'm skeptical about the slow speed of the HD's... I'm fairly certain they're only 4200rpm, which is sub-par for dumping raw video to.

But there's always hope!
 
Clive At Five said:
How is availability in your areas? I went to check my local Apple Stores and neither of them have new iPods... they say they will by the end of the week... =(

I'm sure the coasts probably have them...

curse you, Apple! Why must you always neglect us mid-westerners?!?!

Man, I was so set on buying my first iPod today =(

-Clive

I'm the same, i waited outside the palo alto apple store at 9:45 this morning only to be told i can put my name down. I just phoned and they are also saying they will have them by the end of the week. I guess its a race! 🙄
 
Clive At Five said:
How is availability in your areas? I went to check my local Apple Stores and neither of them have new iPods... they say they will by the end of the week... =(

I'm sure the coasts probably have them...

curse you, Apple! Why must you always neglect us mid-westerners?!?!

Man, I was so set on buying my first iPod today =(

-Clive


apple store cambridge, ma said wednesday, the other store in newton said they don't know.

too bad
 
Case/Remote

I was able to get apple to add the case and remote to my 9:30AM 40GB order as well. The rep seemed unconvinced at first (perhaps because I'm not very convincing!), but he spoke with his manager and added the items, stressing the fact that they were making "an exception." Has not showed up on my order yet, but was told that it wouldn't for at least 30 minutes.
 
andiwm2003 said:
apple store cambridge, ma said wednesday, the other store in newton said they don't know.

too bad


Cambridge in the galleria? Hmm... maybe I should cancel my order online and just go get it then. Ah screw it ill be patient.
 
Fitzcaraldo said:
A replacement for My Dat Player would be my logical use for the iPod. I fail to see what this has to do with the RIAA and how they have any legal right to dictate to anybody what enviromental samples they wish to record.

iPod would/could also make a nice little device for sound recording for FCP etc.

I would have bought an iPod voice recorder IF it could handle 48KHz. At the moment the iPod limits you to 8KHz recording.

That's why I bought a minidisc player. It can record at 48KHz, which is useful for FCP. I'm just recording lectures, so I don't need a DAT, and a wireless mic setup would be overkill for what I'm trying to accomplish as a one-man band.
 
First timer

Ordered two 40GB models (shipping in 1-3 days)...my first Ipods 😀

and ordered two Airport Extremes (3-4 weeks) 🙁

I don't care about the lack of 'accessories' as I doubt I would use anything but a skin and would rather buy my own anyways...saving $100 each and getting improved battery life seems well worth the wait.
 
CambridgeSide said the same to me too

BeanTownBrawler said:
Cambridge in the galleria? Hmm... maybe I should cancel my order online and just go get it then. Ah screw it ill be patient.


I would of waited until Weds. and just pick it up at the store, but I dont have the cash in hand, so I'm putting it on my Parents Apple Loan Account, and give them the Money when I get paid in a week or so. So all in all it works out. And I should have mine by wednesday/thursday cuz i chose overnight air.


I called the Galleria at 9:50 this morning and they said "We're hoping we have them in Wednesday".

Be Patient, Pending the Shipping Method you chose you should have yours around the same time that the stores get theres.
 
The biggest problem with new iPods...

...is the waiting for 3rd party cases. I absolutely loathe that flimsy belt clip Apple supplies. I use Contour's Showcase for my 3G iPods, and I love it - the black case really makes the iPod stand out.

How long before we see 3rd party cases, I wonder?
 
i_wolf said:
... I am a little disappointed by this release. I just like to see things move forward and improve constantly.

1) User customizable equalizer...
2) Replacable battery...
3) Better battery life...
4) Get rid of ... scratch-prone chrome ...
5) Sound Improvements ...
6) As for a radio.... why the hell do I want a radio when I can store thousands of songs on a tiny little device !

I think you're right to want these things, but don't expect them in one-fell swoop. Apple has the top-sellling music player and will be for some time to come. The iPod now is so ingrained into potential buyers that Apple doesn't have to give out significant improvements to sell them. You talk about a lot of abilities that other players have that the ipod doesn't have. And I agree that it would be terrific. However, competition HAS to offer more to even sell a few of their units. Remember, the iPod will always have ITUNES and the MUSIC STORE. Without the store, the software intergration is without a doubt the best. No other competitor has the ease-of-use that Apple has when it comes to managing and adding music to their unit. But, couple the ease-of-use of iTunes with the iTunes Music Store and everything is taken to a completely new level of reliability and ... well... fun.

User customizable equalizer - Nice, but expense Apple doesn't have to incur to sell units.

Replaceable battery - I think that with Apple now having a plan in place to replace batteries should really satisfy most people (although I think $99 is too much -- $49 is really about right)... at $99, most people would say to themselves "Well, with $99, I'm 1/3 of the way to a new IPOD at $299" and not even bother replacing the battery. This was done on purposes. Apple would much rather we buy another ipod than spend $99 on a battery.

Better battery life - 12 Hours is good enough. Again, if other players have better battery life, it's because they HAVE to in order to be competitive. Apple could give us a better battery, but it might be at a cost that they don't want absorb unnecessarily. Remember, they've set a pricing strategy that won't change ($299, $399 & $499)... by giving us a much better battery, they have to eat that in order to keep the sale price the same.

Scratch-prone chrome - That's probably there for two reasons: it's really pretty (initially) and when your ipod is scratched-to-hell-and-back, you might consider getting a nice new one. I, for one, have owned six ipods (5GB 1G; 10GB 1G; 15GB 2G; 20GB 2G; 30GB 3G & 40GB 3G) and only the first one got sort of scratched... that was because I wasn't aware of just how easily they could be scratched when one isn't careful. The other 5 were all scratch-free for the entire time I had them because I took very good care of them.

Radio - I'd like a radio. Even with 95GB of music (yes, that's right), there are times when I want to listen to other music OR other types of radio -- I would love talk radio. Weather and Traffic. It really should be there.

Sound improvements - You might have forgotten that Apple recently came up with their Apple Lossless codec. While I understand that you're talking about improving the hardware, I think there's something to be said about improving the song file to a point where it sounds the same as a CD. You have to ask yourself, do you think that Apple needs to improve the sound because you think the sound isn't as good as other players? Or is it for the sake having better specs? I for one, think the iPod sounds terrific and is good or better than any other player on the market. Sure, Apple can make it better, but as the leader, they don't have to. Better to fine-tune other areas and keep selling more and more without screwing up their profit margin. Sure, 3 million ipods is a lot, but it's nothing compared to POTENTIAL customers. Many more millions have never even listened to an ipod and will be glad to buy one tomorrow with the sound exactly where it's at.
 
Backlit wheel?

I realize this may have been addressed, but I can't bring myself to read a 15 page thread. Does anyone know if the wheel has backlighting?

And did I correctly see that the 20 gig does not come with a dock?
 
swingerofbirch said:
I realize this may have been addressed, but I can't bring myself to read a 15 page thread. Does anyone know if the wheel has backlighting?

And did I correctly see that the 20 gig does not come with a dock?


I've been wondering about the Click Wheel Backlight as well.... If anyone got an answer we'd both appreciate it.

The Dock Does NOT come with the 20gb Model, it only comes with the 40gb Model.

Hope this Helps.
 
When will they hit stores? Anyone have a clue when Best Buy will get some in, my mini just died and I have a PRP on it where I can get the new 20 GB for $40.
 
A@ron said:
When will they hit stores? Anyone have a clue when Best Buy will get some in, my mini just died and I have a PRP on it where I can get the new 20 GB for $40.


Your mini just died? Did you take care of it? Shoot maybe I should get the warranty
 
BeanTownBrawler said:
Your mini just died? Did you take care of it? Shoot maybe I should get the warranty

Yes of course I took care of it, sheesh. The audiojack on mine and a few others I've heard of on the internet have a static flaw. Where the solder joints that hold the minijack to the mothboard are weak. This causes huge amount of static and makes it useless. Of course, the Best Buy near me, and the web site, still has the 20 GB gen 3 listed as 399.99... either they adjust the prices soon, get the 4Gen iPods in, or get a mini in and I will have a replacement. But I refuse to pay $50 more, lose my PRP warranty, and get the 3rd gen EOLed 15 GB
 
iPod w/Clickwheel & old dock

Does anyone know if the docks from the 3G iPods work the new iPods w/Clickwheel? B/c I really don't want to have to buy a new dock for my new 20GB Pod. Thanks

-Andy
 
Free carrying case and remote

This morning (around 6AM), I ordered a 4th Gen 40GB iPod. At the time of my order, Apple listed a case and remote as standard accessories that ship with the 40gig. Several hours later, these were removed. I gave apple a call and explained that when I plaved my order, a remote and case were listed. They put me on hold and when they came back on, my order was updated and the case and remote were included for FREE. So, I reccommend that anyone else who felt "decieved" when they placed their order pick up their remote and case 😀 Yay! top of page 16!!!
 
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