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Apple Releases Aperture 2.0

hodgjy said:
I applaud Apple for making digital photo software, but I'm curious to know what the engineers are thinking when they did. It requires a 2 ghz processor? 2 gb of ram?

I know there's two camps here--the Lightroom camp and the Aperture camp. No need to start another debate about this. But why does Lightroom require so much less horsepower to run? I can run Lightroom on my old G4 iBook when I'm out traveling light. Sure, it's slow, but at least it works. Why does Aperture require so much firepower?
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That's a good question. Maybe the answer is in why I prefer it over Lightroom by a long shot.

Nonetheless, I completely understand. If you're a pro, you'll have a pro machine and Aperture was built for the pro. If you're a regular user, iPhoto is an amazing app which I use for all my personal photos.
 
jmorrison0722 said:
In other news, what's up with the new image for Logic Express that Apple is using on the Mac Pro store configuration screen? Looks like this:

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That's the icon for Logic Express. A bit more eye-catching than the white box I suppose.
 
hayesk said:
The RAW upgrade is built into MacOS X 10.5.2 - will that not work with Aperture 1.5?
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Nope.

http://www.apple.com/aperture/specs/raw.html

"* Cameras and camera backs followed by an asterisk require Aperture 2 with Mac OS X Tiger v10.4.11 or Mac OS X Leopard v10.5.2 or later."

The asterisked cameras are the ones that had RAW capability built into OS 10.5 yesterday. On the bright side, this seems to imply that Tiger users owning the new cameras need only buy Aperture 2.0 and not Leopard too, i.e. RAW support has been essentially decoupled from the OS.
 
Tosser said:
Well, it's double. You know the english connotations, so I'll "elegantly" skip that part and tell you what it means in danish. It's plural for "nutcase". Combine the two, and voila!
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"Elegant skipping" and "tossing salad", marvelous (that means dandy). :D

I understood you to say that CompUSA discounted Aperture 30%. Our local CompUSA has only discounted Apple products a mere 10%.
 
That's a great point. However, I'll bet Adobe would consider Lightroom as a "Pro" app as well. I guess only Adobe and Apple truly know what their target audiences are.

ipedro said:
That's a good question. Maybe the answer is in why I prefer it over Lightroom by a long shot.

Nonetheless, I completely understand. If you're a pro, you'll have a pro machine and Aperture was built for the pro. If you're a regular user, iPhoto is an amazing app which I use for all my personal photos.
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Tosser said:
Hmm, I just realised the Airbook is then out of the game as a light editing machine to bring along with all your lenses and whatever else pro photographers bring along. At least if the tool of choice is Aperture.
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a 2 Ghz processor is not *REQUIRED* it's recommended.

From Apple's site:

One of the following Mac computers:
Mac Pro
MacBook Pro
MacBook Air
MacBook
Mac mini with an Intel Core Solo or Duo processor
iMac with a 1.8GHz or faster PowerPC G5 or Intel Core Duo processor
Power Mac G5 with a 1.6GHz or faster PowerPC G5 processor
15- or 17-inch PowerBook G4 with a 1.25GHz or faster PowerPC G4 processor

Memory requirements
1GB of RAM
2GB of RAM for Mac Pro
 
MacSKY said:
Couple of questions for professionals (photographers) utilizing Aperture:

First - I'm a pro completely using Adobe LR & CS3. Can any of you point to a website with direct comparisons of the two products LR & Aperture?

Second - I'm looking for a solution for digital asset management. The Apple website really doesn't focus too much on it's capabilities as a "library management tool" other than saying it's powerful enough to handle it. Are any of you using Aperture for this purpose?

Aperture 2.0 looks promising and I'm looking for a tool that has Lightroom's capabilities but also a strong management tool to catalog the 10's of thousands of images I'm creating yearly. Something LR lacks right now.

Thanks
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sterlingindigo said:
I'd also be very interested in seeing an answer to this post including raw support comparison.
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There was a pretty good side by side comparison in a dual article. One guy was an Aperture user the other a Lightroom user and they tried the other camp's application and gave very honest reviews. Each app had it's own strengths and weaknesses and seem to come out about equal:

http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/2007/03/05/aperture-vs-lightoom.html

:)
 
This is a big deal for Apple. They really needed to get this out. When it comes right down to it there is only one reason to buy a Mac. and that is so you can run software. For many people Aperture was the reason they bought a Mac. Before today there is a lot of grumbling about "why bother with buying a Mac, Aperture is a dead or dieing product."

We will still have to see if Apple is able to keep up with new cameras. People hate to become dependent on Aperture it will always lag months behind the others in support for new cameras

The price drop should help too.
 
Why does it work in iPhoto'08 and not Aperture 1.5.x?

If it's true that in order to use Nikon D3/D300 RAW files in Aperture, we are forced to buy Aperture 2,then Apple is playing a kind of extortion game. It's unconscionable that they would allow the Finder, iPhoto '08, and Preview to recognize and work with D3/D300 RAW and purposely not permit the existing version of Aperture to read those same files.

So instead of allowing the existing version of Aperture to read it, which it should be able to because the less sophisticated iPhoto can, Apple is forcing Aperture users to pay the $99 upgrade price. This is just insult upon injury. Not only did we have to wait three months for OS X to recognize D3/D300 files, but now that OS X can read those files natively, for some reason the current Aperture was not modified to do so and thus we are being coerced into upgrading to Aperture 2.

This is dirty pool and it is something that I truly did not expect from Apple. I have been an advocate of theirs since the first Macintosh came out in 1984. Never would I have thought that they would do something like this. This is a low and petty move unbecoming of a company like Apple.
 
Grimace said:
This is what the academic store page says:
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That is because the link on the homepage isn't updated to take you to the new Aperture 2 page for the Academic Store.

Just do a search for Aperture 2 and it will take you to the correct page. It's $179 BTW. Not that great of a discount IMO

What I am curious about is if I currently have an academic version if I can pay the $99 upgrade price to get Aperture 2 instead of having to buy a whole new version Academic or Standard ( or Pro I guess :p )
 
2A Batterie said:
I was all stoked when the Apple Store went down, hoping for updates to the MB/MBP. Sigh. Still waiting to pull the trigger on a new laptop. Maybe some other Tuesday.
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What's the point of owning a MBP? Why would you (or anyone) want one? I assume so you can run some software on it. These software releases are the entire reason there is hardware.
 
sterlingindigo said:
"Elegant skipping" and "tossing salad", marvelous (that means dandy). :D

I understood you to say that CompUSA discounted Aperture 30%. Our local CompUSA has only discounted Apple products a mere 10%.
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Oh, I see. I wouldn't know, but the bloke said it was discounted by thirty percent, since that particular shop was going out of business.
 
I'm annoyed that I can't use the trial with my existing library (officially anyway). Despite this, my experience so far with my very minimal trial library is very impressive. Really noticeable speed increase on my MBP (on top of the boost that yesterday's graphics update/10.5.2 gave).

The new interface is an improvement except for:

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Title bar seems to have grown an unnecessary chin (which grows even more if you set it to show "Icons and text".

Also, I wish it was still an option to have the main tool set on the title bar area. It might seem pedantic but I only have 1440 x 900px to play with - some users will have even less.

Obviously haven't had much time to play yet but the new adjustments (and their layout) seem great (and a little bit Lightroomesque ).

Yeah, I think I'll buy it when the UK store updates. Can someone confirm that the edu version is non-upgradable?
 
SharkySharky said:
What I am curious about is if I currently have an academic version if I can pay the $99 upgrade price to get Aperture 2 instead of having to buy a whole new version Academic or Standard ( or Pro I guess :p )
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Haven't found the answer to that question yet - would like to know

someone has reported seeing $69 edu pricing on the apple discussions thread - but that hasn't been confirmed yet - every attempt i've made on edu store online has said product not available.
 
sterlingindigo said:
I understood you to say that CompUSA discounted Aperture 30%. Our local CompUSA has only discounted Apple products a mere 10%.
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Apple stuff is all over the board. The last time I was there there was one MBP, MP and 23" ACD all 10% off, software was 30% and AppleCare was 50%.
 
lloydh said:
I'm annoyed that I can't use the trial with my existing library (officially anyway). Despite this, my experience so far with my very minimal trial library is very impressive. Really noticeable speed increase on my MBP (on top of the boost that yesterday's graphics update/10.5.2 gave).

The new interface is an improvement except for:

20080212-t9w8n1jeiegq5njc1xafw8bde2.jpg


Title bar seems to have grown an unnecessary chin (which grows even more if you set it to show "Icons and text".

Also, I wish it was still an option to have the main tool set on the title bar area. It might seem pedantic but I only have 1440 x 900px to play with - some users will have even less.

Obviously haven't had much time to play yet but the new adjustments (and their layout) seem great (and a little bit Lightroomesque ).

Yeah, I think I'll buy it when the UK store updates. Can someone confirm that the edu version is non-upgradable?
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I have been playing with Aperture 2 and I don't have that "Waste of Space"
See my attached image for proof

I am on a 15.4" MBP 2.33 C2D 2GB Ram 10.5.2 just in case screen size makes a difference?
 

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matperk said:
IIRC, Apple academic products are non-upgradeable across the board.
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Yeah I knew this was the case, but was more so crossing my fingers in hope that it would be different this time around to save me some cash! :D

Oh well, at least I will get these products for free when I am developing them in :apple:Cupertino:apple: ;)
 
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