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Apple Releases Boot Camp Beta

Is this the first mention that Leopard will be previewed at WWDC? I hadn't read this before (thought it was always likely).

Also, is the Boot Camp a time-limited beta?
 
Before they released this, I was wondering if it would mean software companies wouldn't bother as much with Apple products. I can't see how it can do the Mac gaming world much favours.
 
rdowns said:
"Apple has no desire or plan to sell or support Windows, but many customers have expressed their interest to run Windows on Apple's superior hardware now that we use Intel processors," said Philip Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing. "We think Boot Camp makes the Mac even more appealing to Windows users considering making the switch."
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I've said numerous times on these forums that people are more willing to purchase Macs and Apple marketshare has been increasing the past few years. I've also said numerous times that I expect Apple's marketshare to increase dramatically over the next few years.

Today's news is validation of my views.

Can anyone say INCREASED MARKETSHARE :D
 
whooleytoo said:
Is this the first mention that Leopard will be previewed at WWDC? I hadn't read this before (thought it was always likely).

Also, is the Boot Camp a time-limited beta?
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It was mentioned last year, and it is limited time beta, meaning it will probably expire a few weeks, months after the release of Leopard. (which will include it)

I just cleared out my onmac WinXp solution, should have Bootcamp running soon.
 
Yeah, on the issue of switchers I reckon JT has got it spot on. I got a G4 Mini to play with and then my IBM laptop brok (nothing to do with Windows but a dud bit of Crucial memory) anyway that is besides the point but I think after an hour or two people will be wondering why they bought that copy of xp.

But I really do hope we don't get lazy developers as well, that is far to depressing a thought

Dan
 
MacMyDay said:
Before they released this, I was wondering if it would mean software companies wouldn't bother as much with Apple products. I can't see how it can do the Mac gaming world much favours.
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In other words, it's THE END of native software development for Mac OS, as I said before on another thread...

I know I am gonna get flak for this, but I am sure the Apple platform is through now...at least as we know it.

Those that have developed something will stay for a while...and those that haven't will NEVER port anything to the Mac.

Now if you excuse me, I will return to my Apple II, thanks very much... :eek:
 
it's amazing mac users hate windows, yet find this an awesome move by apple.

are you guys going to RUN windows now? Seems to me Macs have the superior OS, not the superior Hardware.
 
JCT said:
I see this as training wheels for switchers.
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That is a great point.

For those of us in the IT field, we now may have a way for our companies to buy us Macintosh Portable computers for work, as we can boot into Windows during work hours, and into MacOS during our personal time.

Virtualization is still the best fit for this type of duty, but having the hardware support Windows straight out of the box would is a great bargaining tool. I would love to get a MacBook Pro as opposed to a Dell or HP for work!

dwd3885 said:
it's amazing mac users hate windows, yet find this an awesome move by apple.

are you guys going to RUN windows now? Seems to me Macs have the superior OS, not the superior Hardware.
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Not all Macintosh users are as closed minded as you seem to think. Please explain how the Macintosh hardware is inferior to say, Dell, HP, IBM, WinBook, whenever you get a chance.
 
dwd3885 said:
are you guys going to RUN windows now? Seems to me Macs have the superior OS, not the superior Hardware.
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I can only speek from personal experience here. BUT, I work for a church and am desperatly trying to get us converted over to Mac, but before i can even start, there is a major sticking point.... our church directory is stored in a program that ONLY runs on WIndows. So, to convert to Mac makes this software usless to the emplyees. So, if I could dual-boot and just have a staff member boot into Windows when they need to access this program, I have won the battle. i would "win" the battle even better if I could boot windows in OS X. I have a feelign I'll have to wait until 10.5 for that.
 
stefman said:
It doesn't automatically mean that because you can run Windows on you Mac that you don't want to use OS X anymore. Basically, there will always be Mac OS X users...maybe now even more :D
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Exactly! And this whole thing makes me think of the iPod and how everyone freaked out when they ported iTunes to Windows. People will buy a Mac, install Windows (which we assume they're already used to...and by used to I mean know how to use and hate). Then one day they'll open OS X up and realize how awesome it is. Just the like the iPod's awesomeness was foreign to them, OS X will do the same.
 
I checked on my stocks, I love how I know apple has released something new when their stock goes up almost 4 percent in 3 hours.

-wish i had a intel
 
Thx apple. It would have hurt to carry 2 laptops around. I think you will see some of my windows mashines on eBay soon.

Can't wait for the small MBP and Leopard.

PS: I think it would have looked kinda bad if Apple showed this on April 1. "Apple just got 30. To celebrate this, run windows on your Mac..."
 
Where Are The Results!??!?!?

Alright alright.. enough jubilation over this gift from iGod.

Where are the results???
Who has installed it and opened up a few PC only games????
 
adamfilip said:
I dont get why people are saying that since it can boot windows.. developers will stop making native mac apps

its great that you can now boot into windows and use apps that are missing from osx.

I believe this will make alot of people switch as its safer.
but i also believe they will see how much better osx runs. and how much safer it is from virus and adware. that they will eventually forget about windows

sort of like classic OS9 mode.. atfirst i used classic then .. i just got rid of it. since osx did everything i needed (except quicken basic for Canadians)

I believe the opposite will happen.

if alot more people switch developers will see that people like osx and will make more software for it.. people will see osx is better and slowly drop windows.
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It costs money to develop for OSX and 95% of the world still runs Windows. Also even though OSX has a core that was designed to run X86 Apple has spent the past 7 years making it run as well as possible on PowerPC. Apple for the past decade has been encouraging it's developers to optimize for the PowerPC. Considering Windows and all apps for Windows only had to worry about optimizing for X86 the performance of Windows and it's native Apps will generally be better than OSX and native apps on X86. Do you now we where the problem is?

I have faith and hope that OSX will thrive just as you do but the opposite is also still a possibility.
 
rdowns said:
"Apple has no desire or plan to sell or support Windows, but many customers have expressed their interest to run Windows on Apple's superior hardware now that we use Intel processors," said Philip Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing. "We think Boot Camp makes the Mac even more appealing to Windows users considering making the switch."
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All I gotta say, is HOLY COW. I wonder if this was part of their 30th anniversary announcements, but they couldn't announce it on April 1st because of the... believability aspects of it all :)
 
dwd3885 said:
it's amazing mac users hate windows, yet find this an awesome move by apple.

are you guys going to RUN windows now? Seems to me Macs have the superior OS, not the superior Hardware.
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I would absolutly never run windows on my personal Powerbook!!
But my dull beige box on my desk at work is going to be replaced with a Mac as soon as OSX 10.5 comes out.
I think this is where the big news is Corporate sales..
 
So can someone clarify - you either boot as XP or OSX ?

You can't be running Windows XP within a window while you have OSX as the primary os ?

You have to reboot and run the machine as though it was a PC?
 
kwajo.com said:
wow hell froze over

good move but I won't use it. I'll still to either no windows or virtualization. I don't want Windows to run un-isolated on the same system or hard drive as my Mac or any main system for that matter. Keep windows contained and I'm fine with it
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It IS isolated. It's on a separate partition. Anyone know if the XP boot can see the OSX partition? Can it see firewire drives of either flavor?

stefman said:
This is great, but how different is it from those guys that had managed to boot a MacIntel with XP a few weeks ago?
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Ton of differences. You don't have to reformat your drive. Install is MUCH easier. And drivers are supported for most of the hardware, you may be able to run games on all intel macs with this version.

oingoboingo said:
Again, I think this will mark the beginning of a very tough period for Mac specialist game publishers. Now there is an Apple-blessed method of conveniently dual booting into the world's premier gaming console, Windows XP.
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I don't agree with that, I think mac games will do just fine, they just need to be competitive with pricing and release dates. Don't forget, you need to go through the trouble of doing this and most importantly BUY XP to run PC games. Aside from that, it's a joke to call XP the premier gaming "console". PC games have been on the decline for years, the future is dedicated consoles.

Sam* said:
Would you be able to use a two button mouse? like a pc mouse when running windows?
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Um...multibutton mice are supported in OSX already. Have been for years. So that's a yes.

840quadra said:
Holy off topic Batman !
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Holy clueless, batman! It's completely on topic, this announcement is the entire reason for the Apple stock boost.
 
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