Apple Releases Bootcamp 1.3

[cpnorris]

Sharing files between Windows and OSX

So there are certain ways to partition your hard drive so that OSX can save files to Windows, but it puts a limitation on the size of the partition (32GB). But can't you just hook up an external drive and share files through that?

For example, I will be using 3D modeling and rendering software with Windows (for architecture school), so say I render an image and then want to use Photoshop, which I have on OSX. Couldn't I just save the .jpg file onto my ipod then reboot into OSX and take the file from the ipod onto my OSX partition? Sounds like that shouldn't be a problem....

 

[sweet160]

Now I love my Mac and I would never switch to a MS windows only system...

But my iMac now plays Halflife (all of them), FarCry and FEAR at a very good framerate...

Now thats why Bootcamp is so nice I think.

But you have to put up with reinstalling MS WIndows every 8 weeks or so, because by then its all messed up...

I reinstalled windows about 5 times now, but I am still running my original install of my beloved MacosX where I do all of my "serious" stuff...

Did you guys notice an increase of framerate with this new Bootcamp? I thing I have an increase at least in FEAR!

 

[Eidorian]

So there are certain ways to partition your hard drive so that OSX can save files to Windows, but it puts a limitation on the size of the partition (32GB). But can't you just hook up an external drive and share files through that?

For example, I will be using 3D modeling and rendering software with Windows (for architecture school), so say I render an image and then want to use Photoshop, which I have on OSX. Couldn't I just save the .jpg file onto my ipod then reboot into OSX and take the file from the ipod onto my OSX partition? Sounds like that shouldn't be a problem....

OS X can read NTFS just fine. It just can't write to it. Any file you save on the Windows partition will be readable from OS X.

 

[HSTRIP]

Why, yes, yes it is. And its still terrifying.

Wow, how did you get it working, i tried installing the demo and it made XP crash twice, grrr. I really want to play that game.

Oh someone asked about games on parallels earlier, i tried FEAR and C+C3 and niether would work. I have a imac CD 2.0 with 2.0 gig mem and 256 vram both would load but when getting into the game it was unusable, shame as rebooting is a pain. (both work really well under bootcamp)

 

[dooyou]

The short time I've had XP installed on my MBP ( ) it has worked wonderfully, with the exception of QuickTime, although that was minor. It connected to my FiOS router without any problems, and I was browsing the web, posting some stuff here, just as quickly as any other WINTEL box I've used. I was able to open the iTunes Library on my iMacG5 on my home network and stream it down to my laptop. Cool.

Hi Sean!

I also installed XP on my MBP and it works great. But is it regular, that when I'm starting Windows, the fan's are getting to 6.000rpm? After starting Windows, the fan's are cooling down and everything is fine.

 

[SeanMcg]

Hi Sean!

I also installed XP on my MBP and it works great. But is it regular, that when I'm starting Windows, the fan's are getting to 6.000rpm? After starting Windows, the fan's are cooling down and everything is fine.

That should not be happening. Do you have any devices connected to your MBP, especially external HDs? In my IT support work, I have noticed that a program or device that can't run will max out the processor, causing the fan to turn on. See if you still get the problem when booting into Safe Mode.

My system boots up just like any other XP machine, with the exception of the option key startup, of course. I hope you can track down the problem.

 

[swyatt2170]

I'm disappointed not to see "improved wireless keyboard support" on the list. As it stands, my wireless Mighty Mouse works fine in XP, but the keyboard needs a power cycle each time I boot into Windows.

I am new to Macs having migrated from a Windows PC to a 20" IMac. Running all the latest OSX updates and have tried Bootcamp 1.3 for the first time. I have a wireless keyboard and wireless Mighty Mouse.

My keybaord is working flawlessly, however the Mighty Mouse does not function following reboot. Power cycling does not connect it. I have to manually go into the Windows Control panel Bluetooth settings, remove the mouse, and reinstall it (every time).

Needless to say, I have left Bootcamp and Windows for the time being, unless anybody can suggest a solution?

 

[cpnorris]

Boot Camp Partition

Ok so I just installed Boot Camp on my new MBP and I did an NTFS partition and split the drive 50/50. Everything is working just fine but I had a couple questions that I hope someone can answer.

1. When I was partitioning my drive with Boot Camp I knew I wanted an NTFS partition but I didn't see any way of choosing the size of the partition. It just went straight to a 50/50 split of the hard drive. Did I miss something here? I thought you could fully customize the partition size.

2. After the whole process was over I checked the hard drive sizes in OSX and XP. They both said that they had 74GB capacity (It's a 160 GB HD) but the OSX side said that it only had 50 GB available and that I had used 24 GB, while the XP side says I have 71 GB available. I haven't installed anything else so why would I have 24 GB in use on a brand new computer?

 

[gadgetgirl85]

How on earth do you get a partition bigger than 32GB if you are running Vista. Is this possible? Will this be possible? (Sorry this might be a silly question )

 

[A Pittarelli]

why would you want to give vista more than 32 gigs anyway?

 

[AJsAWiz]

The obvious difference is it is an OEM license, which means it is bound to the hardware you install it on. I'll give you an idea how this works in PC terms.

Lets say I buy a Dell, and it comes with Windows XP, it comes with an OEM license. Five years later I decide to build myself a new PC. I need an OS for it. I can't just take the install discs I got for the Dell and install windows on the new machine, because the license is for the machine it was originally installed on by Dell.

Similarly, if you buy an OEM Windows and install it on your MacBook Pro, the Windows is now stuck to that machine. If you trade up, and get a new MacBook, you can't legally take the Windows off the old one and use it on your new one. You would have to sell your Windows license with your old machine and buy a new one for your new machine This is why the OEM bundle has your license key on an actual sticker you are supposed to affix to the computer. It's not just so you don't lose track of the license key, it's because the license is now inseparable from the hardware by legal definitions.

OEM licenses are full of fuzzy legal issues. By their own terms, they have to be purchased along with a major hardware component of the machine it will be used on (these licenses are meant to be used by people building computers after all). Eligible components would include the processor and the motherboard, but I've had resellers tell me a hard drive or a case would qualify. The shadier ones will sell one without anything in particular being purchased with it, or they'll throw an item in for free like a case fan and say "there's the hardware component so this is legit". Arguably you should be required to by the component with the license. What if you're a savvy shopper and are buying everything from different suppliers? As long as you have all the pieces and are abiding by the other terms it should be fine.

Also, what if you have to do a major repair? Technically, if you had to replace your motherboard, you would need to by a new Windows license too (there are horror stories on the Internet about people caught in this issue with eMachines or Gateway).

What if you build a new machine and use components from the old one, or build the new one from scratch and have the old one destroyed?

On page 25 of Boot Camp Installation and Setup Guide it states:
"Verify that you are using an original, full version of Windows XP Home Edition . . . or Windows Vista Home Basic . . . Do not use a 64 bit version of Windows. Media Center, OEM, and upgrade versions of Windows XP are not recommended."
I can't determine if they are saying that the 64 bit version of OEM is not recommended or that none of the OEMs are recommended. I just purchased Vista OEM and concerned that I won't be able to install it with Boot Camp. Has anyone tried the 32 bit Windows Vista Home Premium with Boot Camp and installed it successfully?

 

[SeaFox]

On page 25 of Boot Camp Installation and Setup Guide it states:
"Verify that you are using an original, full version of Windows XP Home Edition . . . or Windows Vista Home Basic . . . Do not use a 64 bit version of Windows. Media Center, OEM, and upgrade versions of Windows XP are not recommended."
I can't determine if they are saying that the 64 bit version of OEM is not recommended or that none of the OEMs are recommended. I just purchased Vista OEM and concerned that I won't be able to install it with Boot Camp. Has anyone tried the 32 bit Windows Vista Home Premium with Boot Camp and installed it successfully?

If you are typing that excerpt of the Boot Camp guide verbatim, then it's referring to ALL OEM versions. That's why there's a comma before and after "OEM". If there wasn't a comma before, it would be referring to the OEM version of Media Center. But the comma after Media Center tells you that it is not a prenominal modifying "OEM", but a separate noun in a list.

Also, note that there is a period at the end of "Do not use a 64 bit version of Windows." That means this is a statement by itself. Do not use 64 bit Windows, at all.

Isn't grammar fun?

There's nothing that technically keeps an OEM version from working. There is no difference between an OEM Windows install disk and a "regular" one. This is all legal semantics. The main reason this paragraph in the guide exists is so Apple can say they told you not to if you get in any legal hot water.