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Apple Releases Bootcamp 1.3

Has anyone tried Firefox under the new Boot Camp?

It works pretty horribly on my MBP with Boot Camp 1.2, am hoping 1.3 might improve things a little.
 
ericthered said:
I was able to get decent response from their tech support (after I filed a complaint with the BBB)
They were never able to resolve my "issue" with running a boot camp XP install so I was eventually given a refund.

I'll give them another shot at my $$ when they get their tech support to actually respond to e-mails
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I bought Parallels in December '06 with this commitment from them:-

This copy includes free Upgrade Protection for one year following the date of purchase, which entitles you to receive all major upgrades released during that timeframe at no additional cost. When a new major version is released, you will receive an email to the address you used to register the product that includes instructions on how to download and install the new version, and a permanent activation key that is compatible with the new version.
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Even on the cd they sent me is clearly printed "includes free upgrades". Now they are reneging on this claiming that the free upgrades are for point updates only. I also noted on their forums that many people received an email from Parallels to purchase version 3 at a lower price, I was not one of them. I have emailed them to query this, but of course have never received a reply.

I feel ripped off and will certainly not be buying version 3.
 
MrCrowbar said:
Looks like you got the Random Shutdown Syndrome (RSS). Lots of Early Macbooks have it. The problem is the heatpipe that transports the heat from the processor to the fan expands and basically shortens the logic board. A safety mechanism then "pulls the plug" and off goes the power. If you restart your machine instantly after it powers off, it should power off very fast again since the heatpipe is still hot and expanded.

Apple fixed that by shipping a new heatpipe, actually the same as before but it has some isolation tape on it so it won't cause shorts when it touches the logic board. If you're still under warranty or Apple Care, bring it to an Apple Store and they will fix it. There has also been a firmware update that disables the power-off feature so the computer stays on, but maybe it does not work under windows. Anyway, take it to the shop.
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It's strange but I don't have the issue in XP even when I'm running a game. When Vista is running I could just be looking at stuff online and it will just shut off.
 
bdj21ya said:
Yes. BootCamp is nothing but drivers and a bootloader (+ pref pane for startup). Windows is nothing but some files on a separate partition on your hdd. The two have very little to do with one another :) . Just burn a cd and install the drivers.
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i believe that the bootloader is a part of the computers firmware, not bootcamp. Bootcamp consists of drivers, a partition manager and a setup wizart.
 
The combination of new iMacs and the upcoming release of Leopard has some analysts believing that Apple might disclose so-called "secret features" in the operating system such as the ability to run the Macintosh and Windows operating systems at the same time without having to reboot the Mac.

"This would serve as a major catalyst for Mac sales," said Shaw Wu, who covers Apple for American Technology Research. Wu believes the main reason Leopard was delayed until October was in order for Apple to give its developers more time to test out the dual operating system abilities and other features.
 
Bitman said:
The combination of new iMacs and the upcoming release of Leopard has some analysts believing that Apple might disclose so-called "secret features" in the operating system such as the ability to run the Macintosh and Windows operating systems at the same time without having to reboot the Mac.

"This would serve as a major catalyst for Mac sales," said Shaw Wu, who covers Apple for American Technology Research. Wu believes the main reason Leopard was delayed until October was in order for Apple to give its developers more time to test out the dual operating system abilities and other features.
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that is what i have been thinking, and hoping for.
 
Zianac said:
Does this mean I don't have to download the ndvidia drivers for the new MBP like i had to yesterday?
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Zianac said:
Does this mean I don't have to download the ndvidia drivers for the new MBP like i had to yesterday?
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Duplicate posts aren't needed - in fact there's a rule against them here. If nobody has answered your question, nobody knows the answer.


I welcome this, for the keyboard backlighting.

I just wish they'd sort out the heat of the damn MBP when running Windows.
 
bigandy said:
Duplicate posts aren't needed - in fact there's a rule against them here. If nobody has answered your question, nobody knows the answer.


I welcome this, for the keyboard backlighting.

I just wish they'd sort out the heat of the damn MBP when running Windows.
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I just finished installing the new nvidia drivers (NVIDIAXPMOBILE.EXE) and the REALTEK drivers for the audio. Now, the only device not properly recognized is the iSight. The iSight installers will not run, but the camera works anyway.

I am not getting any heat issues that I don't get while running the MacOS. Once I got the proper video drivers installed, the machine behaved just as snappy as any Wintel box. I also normally turn off any fade effects, just to keep the demands low. Very nice (compared to Virtual PC)

Brightness controls work like they do in the MacOS, as does volume. The backlight keys don't seem to work.

I would use the nVidia drivers in this package, just to be safe.

I played a selection from the store and a song from the library on my iMac. I did get a buffer overrun when I tried to double the size of the iPhone intro stream. Half size didn't cause any problems, nor did "Fit to Screen."
 
meagain said:
Now, in MY effort to remove microsoft from the house, please feel free to share your ideas for getting an employer to let you get a mac. I want my husband to get a new Macbook Pro for work REALLY bad. They use Toshibas. Ewww.
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Toshiba's are pretty good, a lot better than many other makers and a lot better built. My dad uses one with a rotate-able screen that converts to a tablet. It's actually pretty good.

KillerBuck said:
Is it possible to upgrade my XP partition to Vista? Or would I have to start from the beginning and lose all of my files? Knowing this would save me a lot of time.
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ltcol266845 said:
Am I going to have to reinstall Windows to upgrade to 1.3?
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If you read the thread instead of just posting away, you'll find your answer before you need to ask the question next time.

jbvassallo said:
I just installed Boot camp 1.3 on my iMac 24". I burned a Windows Drivers CD and installed it under Windows XP. Everything was fine until I tried to view a Quicktime movie in my browser. Under Firefox 2.0 and IE 6.0 I get the error "Quicktime Plug0in 7.1.6 - The plug-in performed an illegal operation."

Is anyone else getting this error?

By the way, I tried reinstalling iTunes 7.2 and this did not fix the problem.
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Have you tried just re-installing Quicktime, not the whole iTunes package ?
 
psychofreak said:
Download the latest ones...burn the disk...put it on the old install :)
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Is there any way extracting the drivers without burning a disk. Really seems like a waste every time Apple releases an update to BC to burn another CD. I'd rather extract to a flash drive, or better yet put it on my server, and run it from there.
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SiliconAddict said:
Is there any way extracting the drivers without burning a disk. Really seems like a waste every time Apple releases an update to BC to burn another CD. I'd rather extract to a flash drive, or better yet put it on my server, and run it from there.
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Boot camp assistant - Show package contents - contents - resources - diskimage.dmg
 
segfaultdotorg said:
I'm disappointed not to see "improved wireless keyboard support" on the list. As it stands, my wireless Mighty Mouse works fine in XP, but the keyboard needs a power cycle each time I boot into Windows.
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I use mac mini and I have the same problem. Every time the Windows XP reboots, I have to give the keyboard a power cycle.

However I noticed Windows Vista does not have this problem. (Another reason why we should upgrade to Vista? :))
 
inkswamp said:
/hugs GameCube.

Apple and Nintendo... keeping my home Microsoft-free for over a decade now. :)



Which, in my experience, aren't worth the effort. If an app (including games) is good enough, it makes it over to the Mac. I love when Windows users slam Macs for a lack of games. To be clear, it's a lack of second-tier games that most people really don't give a crap about.

But, where I see Windows on a Mac being especially useful is in business settings, especially where you have mixed-platform work environments. I'm hoping I can talk my employer into letting me getting a new Mac with Parallels soon, so I can dump my PC and go back to having one computer.
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NOTE: I have to use Windows Vista for AutoCAD, and that program is well worth it and a necessity for my studies/work. Sadly, in the architecture and design industry, AutoCAD is (one of) the best program(s) on the market. I still don't understand why they haven't published a Mac OS version yet... :confused:
 
segfaultdotorg said:
I'm disappointed not to see "improved wireless keyboard support" on the list. As it stands, my wireless Mighty Mouse works fine in XP, but the keyboard needs a power cycle each time I boot into Windows.
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Now I have good reasons to believe that you don't need to be disappointed.

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I have just updated the drivers under Windows XP. The problems, which you mentioned and also happened to my Mac Mini before, now NO LONGER EXIST!!

That's a big thing for me! I love this boot camp update!
 
how does this work?

So using bootcamp to boot a new MBPro into Windows means I'm running windows on a computer same as every other windows user. I will have the same problems, like waiting for correct drivers to be written, incompatibility between hardware and software from various manufacturers, virii, spyware, trogans. I've read on this forum a couple of times that bootcamp is simply a program to select the OS along with a partitioning tool and drivers for apple hardware.

Question 1 - So i can use my novation remote keyboard with built in soundcard (USB) with the drivers written by novation?
2 - I can download the latest video card driver from nVidia (this one has already been answered, thanks!)
3 - Does a MBPro run windows well? I'm not asking if Windows is a good OS, we are all aware of the limitations and advantages of Windows and it would be boring to sit through another OSX vs. Windows debate. How does this hardware perform as a Windows computer compared to a Dell, Shuttle, Asus etc. computer that was built primarily as a Windows box?
 
using bootcamp can you install xp and then upgrade it to vista?
i don't want to have to pay the full price for vista if i don't have too
 
inkswamp said:
I was generalizing, of course, and there will always be exceptions, but for the most part I've used Macs and Windows extensively and I've never seen a can't-live-without-it app on Windows--and that includes games. There are some exceptions to the rule with games too but generally, if a game is worth playing, it's going to get to the Mac. When I say that, I mean from the perspective of the casual gamer/typical consumer. The problem is that gamers are so entrenched in the gaming mindset that they often don't understand that most people don't give a rip about some of the games that they think really matter.
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So let me get this straight.

1) You exclude yourself from the category of "gamers."
2) You declare that you know what games are "worth playing."
3) You claim knowledge about the "gaming mindset."
4) You claim to know what games "most people... think really matter."

Do you see a conflict here?

I refer you to https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/3723361/ for many reasons why you're flat out wrong. "Some" exceptions? Don't kid yourself. Bootcamp is incredibly important for Apple if they want to appeal to any gamers, not just the hardcore ones.
 
inkswamp said:
Which, in my experience, aren't worth the effort. If an app (including games) is good enough, it makes it over to the Mac. I love when Windows users slam Macs for a lack of games. To be clear, it's a lack of second-tier games that most people really don't give a crap about.
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There are LOTS of great games that are not available for Macs. Sure, they might not be top-sellers, but they are the leading titles in their respective genres. Games like:

- Il-2 Sturmovik
- Combat Mission-series
- Europa Universalis 3
- Steel Panthers
- Steel Beasts 2 (this one costs $125 ;))
- Everything on Steam

These games might not appeal to Joe Sixpack (apart from Steam), but that does not mean that they are not good games. Or do you think that just because something is popular, it's good? Like Britney Spears?

What Macs have is a handful of most popular games that are ported over. But not everyone likes Sims and it's two hundred add-ons.
 
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