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Nice Update

Nice update for those who want an iMac. Decent bump for the Mac mini too..
I'm sure the MBP will be updated soon and possibly the MB..

Like many others, I'm waiting for something more powerful and expandable than a Mac mini, but not as expensive as a Mac Pro and does not have an integrated LCD like an iMac (I have a 24" Dell already).

Something like:
1.83 Ghz Core Duo 2 (Conroe)
512 gig Ram (4 memory slots)
160Gig 3.5" SATA Drive (and one additonal empty bay)
Dual Layer Superdrive
PCIe Video Card (ATI X1600 or NVidia 7300GT)
1 additional PCI slot
Bluetooth/Airport
in something like a mini-tower case (about 2/3 size of Mac Pro)

Starting about what the iMac starts at ($1199)... With a more loaded one
2.16Ghz, 1Gig Ram, 250Gig HD, better video (say 7600GT) going up to $1599 or so...

Crossing my fingers for the 12th!
 
MacsRgr8 said:
Anyone knows how the GeForce 7600 GT compares to the Radeon X1X00 series?
Similar to the X1800 GT?

Must be better/faster than the X1600....

Much faster. Even the 7300GT is significantly better.

Anyway, of the two NEW edition to the lineup, the 17" GMA iMac is much more important to Apple's well being. Why? Volume. They're going to sell ten of them for every 24". The 24" is a silver bullet machine. It's really cool looking, but I don't see many plunking down $2000 on a family computer. It's not going to really appeal to professionals or prosumers either because of its feature set.
 
Chef Medeski said:
So, does anyone want to buy this option with their mac and I'll pay the $60 for both of them. Ok... $70 for your time and shipping. ;)



Well, lets see where would they put it? Between Mac Mini and iMac.... you know in that $200 difference. Or maybe between iMac and Pro Mac.... in that what $300 difference. It seems like the Mac Mini bump and iMac expansion have left no room in the line-up for another Mac. Even with conroes... all speeds, sizes, prices are covered. There isn't room for a Conroe Mac. Period.

Rubbish. There is a Jupiter sized gap in Apples product "matrix". They have no desktop for frig sake!
 
Chef Medeski said:
Well, lets see where would they put it? Between Mac Mini and iMac.... you know in that $200 difference. Or maybe between iMac and Pro Mac.... in that what $300 difference. It seems like the Mac Mini bump and iMac expansion have left no room in the line-up for another Mac. Even with conroes... all speeds, sizes, prices are covered. There isn't room for a Conroe Mac. Period.

Price gaps, sure, I'll give you that, but you are comparing apples to oranges if you're comparing the Mini and Mac Pro (headless) to an iMac (AIO). What about the people who already have a nice 24" display (or whatever) - what are their options? Throw away their dislpay and buy an iMac? Sure, they could sell it I suppose, but why, if they like it and it works perfectly? So, otherwise, their options are a Mac mini or a Mac Pro - nothing in between. Where is the machine with the iMac's specs (which are perfect for most users) which isn't AIO? For many people the mini is slightly underpowered, and the Mac Pro is overkill. And many people do not want an AIO and prefer easy upgradeability.

I realize it's unlikely Apple will release a Conroe minitower, but I definitely still see a place for it, and hey, one can always dream. :D :cool:
 
holy chit...nice price point on the all models especially 17" and 24". Excellent upgraded 17" model too...you get a lot of good stuff for $200 more from base.
 

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Chef Medeski said:
Well, lets see where would they put it? Between Mac Mini and iMac.... you know in that $200 difference. Or maybe between iMac and Pro Mac.... in that what $300 difference. It seems like the Mac Mini bump and iMac expansion have left no room in the line-up for another Mac. Even with conroes... all speeds, sizes, prices are covered. There isn't room for a Conroe Mac. Period.

Why does it have to go inbetween the iMac and something? How about giving customers a CHOICE at the same pricepoint as the iMac. Lose the integrated LCD for those who have one, bump up the specs a bit and sell at the same price points... See my post above for what I would like to see....
 
Crikey - brand new iMacs. That 24" model is something else.

And updates on a Random Wednesday? What the hell's going on around here?!!

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Does anyone think that as we have seen the Mac Mini's update was just a speed bump, that the MacBook will only see a speed bump too.

There has been a debate as to whether the MacBook will see 'merom' this year, i think that the evidence speaks for itself... ...not til next year.

Here is how i see it;

Mac Mini, MacBook White - Consumer models - Core Duo til late this year or early next

iMac, MacBook Black - Bridge between consumer and pro - Core 2 Duo (Possibly not in the BlackBook but perhaps as an option?)

Mac Pro, MacBook Pro - Pro Models - Core 2 Duo


Just my opinion... ...what does everyone else think?
 
Interestingly the formerly complete Mac family now has a new member in the form of the 24¨ iMac. Be interesting to see how 'complete' the Macbook family was now...
 
for the life of me I can't remember what the 17 and 20 were priced at before today... did they drop?

this is a dumb question but im curious. i had been holding off on buying a 20, but if the price has come down... hmmm.
 
This is a great update.....WOW

Core 2
24"
7300GT (7600GT BTO)
3GB RAM

Lets see what tuesday can bring :D
 
I could have saved a little more money on my iMac. I did NEED it a month ago though. Merom is nice but Core Duo (Yonah) isn't devastated by it.
 
ZoomZoomZoom said:
There's a Go7300 though :p

Although... I'd rather see a Go 7600 or Mobile x1800 in the MBPs...

Despite the name, the GeForce 7300GT is actually a variant of the 7600 series. The GO7300 is based off the entry level 7000 series.

LastLine said:
Interestingly the formerly complete Mac family now has a new member in the form of the 24¨ iMac. Be interesting to see how 'complete' the Macbook family was now...

God willing with lower prices and a GMA 15".
 
Low End iMac with Remote costs $29 additional

Le Big Mac said:
Wow! That's great value. Although it looks like the edu-iMac (no bluetooth or superdrive or remote). But at least it's available for those without more money to spend.

As for the spread between 24" and MacPro . . . good that they're reducing the gap. Give people more options!

If you like the low end iMac but would like a Remote, you can add do it BTO for an additional $29.00. So, it looks like the infrared receiver is on the machine, they are just not bundling the remote.
 
No one else noticed that the 17" "strippers" are shipping within 24 hours, with the rest within 1-2 days. That puts Apple only day or two behind the PC manufacturers shipping Meroms?
 
asterizk said:
Oops yeah... my bad. Gonna need something to play those HD downloads :)

Yeah, Essential Mixes I can handle uploading ya, but it would take forever to upload you HD movies - best that you be downloading those on your own... :p ;) :D

azentropy said:
Why does it have to go inbetween the iMac and something? How about giving customers a CHOICE at the same pricepoint as the iMac. Lose the integrated LCD for those who have one, bump up the specs a bit and sell at the same price points... See my post above for what I would like to see....

Precisely - see my above post. As I see it, there is still a huge gap in the product line - perhaps not in price or specs, but in fundamental design philosophy. Anyone wanting an Apple desktop is forced to buy an AIO. For many people that's fine, they don't care, perhaps they even welcome it or prefer it, but for many others it's simply not an attractive option.
 
brilliant news. and 3gb ram max? :D

only thing i'm not sure about is the height with the bottom white plastic on a 24" screen. hmm. but tis good :)
 
How does the NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 128MB compare to the ATI X1600? Is it faster, better, and or more reliable? I am assuming this is also underclocked?
 
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