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Apple Releases Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro

deputy_doofy said:
I haven't read all the messages, but I'm wondering....
How many of you that have been waiting and whining actually took the plunge this morning? I can say for a fact that I did. Just curious to see how many people are still saying, "...But, the MBP still lacks a male genitalia insert port."
Cynical, you say? Yes, I've been on these forums long enough to see people constantly complain for the next best thing, even on new release days.

Anyway, here's my order again (because I'm ***** excited) :D :

MacBook Pro 15-inch Glossy Widescreen Display
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB
2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Apple USB Modem
Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English
160GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm
Accessory Kit
SuperDrive 6x (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
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I have your exact config in my basket but i'm scared ********, something tells me its gonna be filled with issues like the last rev and i'll end up going to the genius bar.....alot.

Oh well life is all about risks
 
bryanc said:
But I can't decide weather to go for the slower 200 GB drive, or the somewhat faster 160GB drive.

I know that you can never have too much disk space, but I'm wondering what the performance differential will be.

I'm currently running on a 7200 rpm 100 GB (with only 10 GB free), and either of the options in the new machines will be slower (but cooler and less battery hungry)... am I going to be unhappy with a 4200 rpm 200 GB drive? Does anyone know the cache size or any other specs for the 200 GB drive?
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4200rpm is dog-slow. Go for the 5400rpm drive and use the money you saved for a nice big FW800 external HDD.
 
deputy_doofy said:
I haven't read all the messages, but I'm wondering....
How many of you that have been waiting and whining actually took the plunge this morning?
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Yep!



MacBook Pro, 17-inch, 2.33GHz
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200GB Serial ATA Drive @ 4200 rpm
Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS
MacBook Pro 17-inch Glossy Widescreen Display
2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
SuperDrive 8x (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB
Country Kit
 
daneoni said:
I have you exact config in my basket but i'm scared ********, something tells me its gonna be filled with issues and i'll end up going to the genius bar.....alot.

Oh well life is all about risks
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Well, we can only hope that they've been a bit more sufficiently tested. Also, if the enclosure and internals haven't changed much, most of the issues should be out of the way. Yes, EVEREYTHING is a risk. :)
 
hope they won't repeat the stupid overheat, whine, or shutdown issues in this release.

other than that, it's an impressive update and upgrade, especially compared to the painful and slow powerbook updates. Apple sure didn't dissapoint me at all!

2 thumbs up!

it won't make much of a difference in terms of performance gain, but I would preffer getting a 5400 rpm and having more capacity instead. it might be very helpful for a lot of people though, it's just that i'm cost consious.
 
Platform said:
For the "why only MBP's and not MB's too"

As said, less press coverage, but also maybe more important is that now there is a gap between the [rosumer line and the consumer line ;)

750GB drives in iMac's , Mac Pro's , Xserves....!
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I personally thing the update for the Macbook must be arround the corner. Inventory for Macbooks in Europe is virtually no existent and they need to push them in the market in order to realise their sales figures.

I have my fingers crossed that it will be no more than a week before we also see the Macbook updated.
 
Hmmm....it is Tuesday isn't it? :)

Cool my long wait is over. Nice with the bump in ram and FW800 (yes!). :)

Bummer that theres no 7200rpm HD on 15" and gosh darn it getting hit again with the lame video cards.:mad:

Oh, well you never get everything...I'll be ordering a 15" soon. Hopefully it wont be a lap burner.
 
randyharris said:
Wouldn't you know it, my Sister-in-Law's MBP just arrived Yesterday!
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CD or C2D?

If CD I would return in immediately, preferably unopened...

Thats what I hate about this update policy. Yesterdays investment is losing suddenly 30% of its value. Apple should really address this by lowering prices before such an update...
 
Chundles said:
4200rpm is dog-slow. Go for the 5400rpm drive and use the money you saved for a nice big FW800 external HDD.
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Kinda pissed that I just bought 2 external FW400 drives 2 weeks ago. Hesitated on the FW800 but I didn't see myself buying the 17". Today I got the new C2D and it comes with FW800. Grrr....:(
 
Apparently the 160GB HDD's performance is on par with the 100GB 7200RPM and a tad faster than the 120GB??
 
fblack said:
Hmmm....it is Tuesday isn't it? :)

Cool my long wait is over. Nice with the bump in ram and FW800 (yes!). :)

Bummer that theres no 7200rpm HD on 15" and gosh darn it getting hit again with the lame video cards.:mad:

Oh, well you never get everything...I'll be ordering a 15" soon. Hopefully it wont be a lap burner.
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Am very happy with the RAM but OMG, is it expensive (590€ in Belgium) :eek: :eek: :eek:

Bought it anyways. Would like to find out if I swap that second dimm out for a 2GB, would it run at 4GB of RAM? Any takers?
 
i took the plunge

MacBook Pro, 15-inch, 2.33GHz
Part Number: MA610
2GB 667 DDR2 - 2x1GB SO-DIMMs
SuperDrive 6x (DVD+R DL/DVD RW/CD-RW)
MacBook Pro 15-inch Widescreen Display
Backlit Keyboard (English) & Mac OS (English)
Country kit
120GB Serial ATA drive (5400rpm)
2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Ready to ship: 4 days
 
gkhaldi said:
Am very happy with the RAM but OMG, is it expensive (590€ in Belgium) :eek: :eek: :eek:

Bought it anyways. Would like to find out if I swap that second dimm out for a 2GB, would it run at 4GB of RAM? Any takers?
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I dont think so the iMac only supports upto 3gb of ram because of the chipset it uses and i think the macbookpro now uses the same chipset..
 
zenvision said:
so...

5400/7200?

is the difference a big deal for audio/graphics work?
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I do not have a practical answer for you, but I had a similar question when I was upgrading the HD in my powerbook - I wanted the fastest drive I could afford as this would give my PB the biggest performance boost. What I found out is that the 160GB 5400 perpendicular drives have about 90-95% the performance throughput of a non-perpendicular 7200 drive. The reason being that because the bit are perpendicular, the drive needs to rotate a shorter amount to read the same amount of data. I know at the microscopic size of the data on the drives this seems hard to believe, but logically, it makes sense to me. My PB is a screamer by comparison to the 4200 drive that was in there, which has not bearing to your question of course...

I suspect, that the 5400 160GB drive from Apple will have decent performance. Personally, I'm not impressed with the 4200 200GB offering, but for someone who needs more space and ultimate performance is not key, then this would be fine.

That all being said, I look forward to finding out the specs & models of the actual drives Apple is putting in the new MBP's before I'd put money down on one.

Cheers!
 
Performance

I basically ordered a machien and don't know what to expect from perf increase. I have a MBPRO core duo @ 2 GHz. What speedbump can expect on this new C2D @ 2.33 GHz?
 
It seems to me that Apple play games with their users, just a little bit.

Unless I'm mistaken, 1st gen MBP had 7200 HD option but no FW800.

This time the FW800 gets put back but the 7200 option is taken away, with the moral being "buy a 17" if you need both of these features">

I'm the same as one of the previous posters, for my audio app (Ableton Live) there's no way I'd splash that sort of cash on a MBP with a 5400 drive.

Oh well, if my PB gives up the ghost, I'll have to tgo for a 17" (which I don't wwant to do) or buy a PC. Failing that, Im a-waiting for Santa Rosa.
 
Squonk said:
I do not have a practical answer for you, but I had a similar question when I was upgrading the HD in my powerbook - I wanted the fastest drive I could afford as this would give my PB the biggest performance boost. What I found out is that the 160GB 5400 perpendicular drives have about 90-95% the performance throughput of a non-perpendicular 7200 drive. The reason being that because the bit are perpendicular, the drive needs to rotate a shorter amount to read the same amount of data. I know at the microscopic size of the data on the drives this seems hard to believe, but logically, it makes sense to me. My PB is a screamer by comparison to the 4200 drive that was in there, which has not bearing to your question of course...

I suspect, that the 5400 160GB drive from Apple will have decent performance. Personally, I'm not impressed with the 4200 200GB offering, but for someone who needs more space and ultimate performance is not key, then this would be fine.

That all being said, I look forward to finding out the specs & models of the actual drives Apple is putting in the new MBP's before I'd put money down on one.

Cheers!
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thanks for the info! sounds like the 5400 160gb drive is the one for me... :)
 
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