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Apple Releases Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro
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bodeh6 said:
That's retarded all right. None of those companies shipped merom machines in August, and they all shipped at different times. The first ones started showing up in mid September, and most didn't have real quantity until even later.
Even looking at PC websites NOW, I'm seeing ship dates later than what apple is saying.
prezpat2020 said:
Uhhh.. Apple will not charge "a couple hundred" dollars, look at the pricing right now! I've often seen Tiger for sale for $130. And as for waiting for Santa Rosa....well with that attitude you'll never get a computer ever!
CanadianGrit said:
Yes will we see components of the Santa Rosa platform in the MBP without question! Very, very likely Crestline, but perhaps not all components. People on this thread simply don't know what they are talking about. Crestline is available in two versions, one with integrated Intel graphics GPU, another for 3rd party (Nvidia or ATI as Apple sees fit to use at that time) GPUs, Integrated GPU is GM965, 3rd party separate is denoted PM965.
My sticky post (well it needs to be a sticky post, cause people just can't seem to get it) from the biggie 'MBP update by the holidays' thread. Read it, read the links that explain what new features come into play with the Santa Rosa platform, which makes it more sophisticated than Napa by far, inform yourselves, please:
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/2943835/
Huh, who was that poster that claims all the bugs have been worked out on this current update? It is too soon to tell. Sure any revision in the future will have some bugs, it remains to see if they are major or minor in nature. I'd much rather have all the possible new improvements (please Apple at least a 2k res screen on the MBP17, for Christ's Sake!) Blu-Ray slot load burner, faster FSB, more advanced power saving features, faster Merom at the top end, 7.2k rpm 160GB Seagate drive when they come out in the Spring, not 1/2 year after the fact like on this update with the 5.4k 160GB drives, possible hybrid NAND flash memory for faster OS/apps launches, booting; a low power dissipating GPU to replace the excessively old x1600, NV Geforce Go 7700 is already on a PC laptop, ATI already has announced a better/similar model that supersedes the aging x1600.
The list is long the possible improvements that will hopefully come with the introduction of the Intel Santa Rosa supporting chips in the 1st part of 2007. If Apple adopts and is able to utilize many of these improvements, I guarantee you they will sell like hot cakes, and people will think this current minor update is such a dog in comparison, those people many of them will be selling off these early C2D MBPs for sure.
mac4evan said:
A lot of people keep mentioning Leopard and 64bit, but Leopard will run just fine on the 32bit hardware too. 64bit isn't going to give Leopard itself any magic speed boost and 64bit software can run under Tiger right now...
But I agree 64bit support is a lot bigger than people think. For applications that are optimized for a 64bit instruction pipeline, the benefits can be huge. I do a lot of 3D rendering and like to use it as an example. 64bit versions of Lightwave (PC only for now, unfortunately) and Maya show speed bumps of 10 to 35 % over the 32bit counterpart software when running on teh same hardware - just the 64bit version being better optimized to use it. Generally speaking, for 32bit apps, C2D is only going to give an average 5 to 10 % speed up, just because it's a bit more efficient and has a larger cache on the faster models that Apple is using.
This is huge... And where I'm sure Apple gets those amazing 39% faster benchmarks for FCP when comparing the new 2.33GHz MBP to the previous 2.16GHz CD model. I can't wait until mine gets here so I can try it out...
lxpk said:
For those in the know, what does the Santa Rosa spec offer for the MacBook Pro other than a bump in the system bus from 667 to 800mhz.
Considering that HDD is the slow component in the system, and memory performance bump from 667 to 800 would be minor compared to GPU and Processor performance.
Is Santa Rosa really bringing anything to the table?
Why do you assume there is something wrong with the picture.countach said:
There a lot of low end computers that start off less expensive than the higher model, but as you start adding components to the lower end machine it becomes more expensive and less powerful. Does that mean Apple should lower the prices for the MacBook? No, if someone really wants a Black MacBook and are willing to spend money to upgrade it so that it will still be slower than a MacBook Pro then great.
There's no rule that requires Apple to constantly adjust their prices so that all configurations of line X is always cheaper than all configurations of line Y.
I only bought it for my laptop, which needed it. However I soon learned that it did not cover the crack screen.bigb0y said:
I have not bought on since. However, my brother does and we've had two old laptops fixed, no questions asked.
BruinJohn said:
Well, I ordered one and just got a tracking number. Should be delivered tomorrow.
*fingers crossed*
mac4evan said:
I bet we have to stare at the new MBP graphic on their home page for 2 more weeks.
AppliedVisual said:
Tiger only provides partial support for 64 bit and that is only with 64 bit capable processors.
Leopard and 64 bit bit Intel will hopefully provide full 64 bit support. As time goes by, the 64 bit OSX compiler will get better and better. More apps will move to native 64 bit but run partially crippled in 32 bit.
Merom and Leopard is capable of taking advantage of 64 bit now and in the future. Yonah and Tiger, even Yonah & Leopard will run these apps in 32 bit mode but the differential in performance will just keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
custom stores broken
This sucks... I've been waiting months for the MBP to be updated and I was ready to buy one at 9am est this morning but I have not been able to because Apple is having problems with there custom B2B stores. It does not let you add the new MBP to your cart. I talked to sales reps earlier in the day and they told me they are aware of the problem and trying to fix it, but I still can't place my order 8 hours later... Anyone else run into this problem?
Very frustrating...
This sucks... I've been waiting months for the MBP to be updated and I was ready to buy one at 9am est this morning but I have not been able to because Apple is having problems with there custom B2B stores. It does not let you add the new MBP to your cart. I talked to sales reps earlier in the day and they told me they are aware of the problem and trying to fix it, but I still can't place my order 8 hours later... Anyone else run into this problem?
Very frustrating...