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Apple Releases Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro

ccroo said:
Something I read above suggests that a 2.16 Yonah runs hotter than a 2.16 Merom. Is that true?

Does that mean that a 2.33 Merom will only be slightly hotter than a 2.16 Yonah?

Are the Meroms only hotter than Yonahs at higher clock speeds? (2.66)
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From what I have read, Merom draws less power and is cooler than Yonah at the same clock speed.

At higher clock speeds Merom draws more power and runs a little hotter but it will also get the task done faster.
 
Mac Pro 1GB Standard RAM Vs. MacBook Pro With 2GB Standard RAM

8thMan said:
I should hope so. It now seems a bit strange to have the top-of-the-line (and costly) Mac Pro being offered with only half the memory of a laptop.
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True Dat. Considering Mac Pro can hold up to 16GB they should be shipping with two 1GB sticks as well. Maybe that's next.
 
I called up Apple Store in Buffalo NY and they said they are not expecting the updated MBP until the end of this week. I am guessing the other Apple Stores are almost in the similar situation.
 
I'm buying it

Can video ram be upgraded from 128 to 256 on this 15" puppy? Or is it soldered on?

Anyway -- this update is perfect. I've been waiting for it to replace my wife's ancient dell notebook. Now we're a complete Mac household. :)
 
This is an excellent, but a bit late, update to the line. I would have loved a new casing, which i hope is included in the new MBP update, but the specs and prices are phenomenal. This is one of the first laptops i would seriously considering buying stock! The price drop, bumped specs (particularly the hard drive capacity), and RAM makes this machine quite a value. Add my educational discount to that and bam :)

The only peeve i have is that there are no longer the faster speed hard drive options able. Sure the added capacity is nice, but i still would have liked an option to upgrading to a faster (7200rpm) hard drive from the 5400 stock, even if it remained at 100GB. I don't need much space beyond that and would have opted for that faster option.
 
digitalbiker said:
From what I have read, Merom draws less power and is cooler than Yonah at the same clock speed.

At higher clock speeds Merom draws more power and runs a little hotter but it will also get the task done faster.
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See, i still dont get that Yonah draws 31W whilst merom draws 35W. Sooo...am i missing something here?. Fact is this things are gonna run HOT!, we may no longer have whines or moos but HEAT is here to stay at least till penryn (45nm)...maybe
 
Glitches?

Hopefully the following glitches have been rectified on the MacBook Pros:

15-inch:
Distored/Blown right speaker

15- and 17-inch models:
Uneven backlighting of the display
 
Ship date

I ordered mine for the UK HE Store and the ship date estimate is Oct 30th, we don't have an express delivery (that I saw anyway) so it might not make it to me till the following Monday 6th Nov. My order was a stock 15" 2.33Ghz. I guess the wait is relatively small in comparison to how long we had to wait for them to be updated :)
 
DHagan4755 said:
Hopefully the following glitches have been rectified on the MacBook Pros:
15- and 17-inch models:
Uneven backlighting of the display
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Boy I want a nice smooth evenly illuminated screen like my old Powerbook 17!
Apple must know that was a problem. They did not fix it in this run, did they fix it for Rev. B? They certainly know how to do it, the Macbook looks fine...
 
I am on my 5th Macbook Pro and this one has been repaired twice. The right hand speaker has now developed bad distortion and I find the screen looks a bit uneven for 5-10 mins after start-up.

I plan to take this one back when the London, Regent St store gets the new stock. What do you think my chances are of then upgrading me to a new C2D?
 
AppliedVisual said:
A lot of people keep mentioning Leopard and 64bit, but Leopard will run just fine on the 32bit hardware too. 64bit isn't going to give Leopard itself any magic speed boost and 64bit software can run under Tiger right now...

But I agree 64bit support is a lot bigger than people think. For applications that are optimized for a 64bit instruction pipeline, the benefits can be huge. I do a lot of 3D rendering and like to use it as an example. 64bit versions of Lightwave (PC only for now, unfortunately) and Maya show speed bumps of 10 to 35 % over the 32bit counterpart software when running on teh same hardware - just the 64bit version being better optimized to use it. Generally speaking, for 32bit apps, C2D is only going to give an average 5 to 10 % speed up, just because it's a bit more efficient and has a larger cache on the faster models that Apple is using.



This is huge... And where I'm sure Apple gets those amazing 39% faster benchmarks for FCP when comparing the new 2.33GHz MBP to the previous 2.16GHz CD model. I can't wait until mine gets here so I can try it out...
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All I mean is that the C2D is great for longevity reasons. With 64-bit you would think that your computer would last longer because of it.
 
DHagan4755 said:
Hopefully the following glitches have been rectified on the MacBook Pros:

15-inch:
Distored/Blown right speaker

15- and 17-inch models:
Uneven backlighting of the display
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The distorted right speaker was fixed in March. I know because I had 3 MBPs delivered in February and all had a distorted speaker (and were returned). The one I got, and kept, in March did not have a distorted speaker and the backlighting on the display was perfect. I have no experience with the 17", but I can tell you both the 15" issues you mention were fixed over half a year ago.
 
daneoni said:
See, i still dont get that Yonah draws 31W whilst merom draws 35W. Sooo...am i missing something here?
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Did I read Merom always draws 35W whilst the Yonah scales it's draw with demand?
 
bimboles said:
I am on my 5th Macbook Pro and this one has been repaired twice. The right hand speaker has now developed bad distortion and I find the screen looks a bit uneven for 5-10 mins after start-up.

I plan to take this one back when the London, Regent St store gets the new stock. What do you think my chances are of then upgrading me to a new C2D?
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I would imagine high. Their was someone in this thread that said he had his repaired 3 times and now they are giving him a new one. Bu I don't know how they do things in London.:p
 
Reverend Wally said:
OK....

I can top all of the whiners now that the new Merom MBPs are here.

I want the 3" MBP so I can carry it in my shirt pocket and it will magically expand to 17" with 1920x1200 when it detects the magsafe within 1/4 inch in distance.

Super Hi Q Graphics card that reads your mind and does what you think it should do.

Airport Express WiFi that detects any wireless within 500 miles and locks onto it at super speed.

Either you can use the keyboard or it will read your mind telepathically and do what you want it to do.

:D
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I just want an MBP which has an isight that doubles as an antitheft device. When an unauthorized user uses the MBP, either the trackpads or keys can detect the unfamiliar fingerprinting and the isight immediately fires a focused invisible microwave beam into the center of the user's brain, cooking his head from the inside out. is that so much to ask?
 
maverick808 said:
The distorted right speaker was fixed in March. I know because I had 3 MBPs delivered in February and all had a distorted speaker (and were returned). The one I got, and kept, in March did not have a distorted speaker and the backlighting on the display was perfect. I have no experience with the 17", but I can tell you both the 15" issues you mention were fixed over half a year ago.
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I got a week 34 17" last Friday. The LCD display is brighter at center and vignettes at corners. Apple Care couldn't guarantee a replacement wouldn't have the same characteristic.
 
aly said:
I ordered mine for the UK HE Store and the ship date estimate is Oct 30th, we don't have an express delivery (that I saw anyway) so it might not make it to me till the following Monday 6th Nov. My order was a stock 15" 2.33Ghz. I guess the wait is relatively small in comparison to how long we had to wait for them to be updated :)
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You are right, in the UK we don't have the option of express delivery. I ordered a CTO 15" and the customisation added a day to the build time, so mine will ship on the 30th and should arrive before Tuesday the 7th.

By the way, the good news is that UK orders nearly always arrive before their estimated arrival time.
 
128 VRAM vs. 256 VRAM on new models

Hi everyone,

I've lurked for years but decided to finally join and post.

I opted for the base model with 160 GB HD and 2 GB Ram. Do you think I will be sorry to have the 128 VRAM config. instead of the 256?

(I don't do gaming, although I will be using Photoshop and Aperture, but I figured if Aperture runs ok on a Macbook without a dedicated graphics processor, it should run fine on the new base MBP with 2 GB Ram.)
 
ccroo said:
Did I read Merom always draws 35W whilst the Yonah scales it's draw with demand?
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...or the 15" MBP GPU is always underclocked whilst the 17" GPU scales with demand?
 
Firewire Ports on the new MacBook Pro

Hi there.

As we all know, apple added a FW 800 Port to the 15 inch Modell.

Does some of yopu know whether the FW 400 and the FW 800 run on the same bus or are these separate busses?


Thanks for reply!



Greets from Switzerland


Lucky ones who waited!:)
 
mac4evan said:
I would imagine high. Their was someone in this thread that said he had his repaired 3 times and now they are giving him a new one. Bu I don't know how they do things in London.:p
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Let's just say I am ready to give them hell. I work in PC Tech Support so I am ready to unleash all the pent up bitching I receive from my users on some poor unsuspecting apple employee.

The last time I had mine replaced because of a flickering backlight and a really noisey fan. They got me a new one from the back and it had huge scratch on the casing. They were really apologetic and gave me a further 10% discount.

I must admit even though they make such shoddy 1st release machines. Their customer care is very good.
 
iViking said:
Hi everyone,

I've lurked for years but decided to finally join and post.

I opted for the base model with 160 GB HD and 2 GB Ram. Do you think I will be sorry to have the 128 VRAM config. instead of the 256?

(I don't do gaming, although I will be using Photoshop and Aperture, but I figured if Aperture runs ok on a Macbook without a dedicated graphics processor, it should run fine on the new base MBP with 2 GB Ram.)
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You really think Aperature runs ok on a MB? Not saying your wrong I mean it is your opinion but it seems odd.
 
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