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Apple Releases Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro
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I too am interested by this update, but i want to know more about how this compares to what will come out with santa rosa. I recently got rid of my desktop and want something with fw800 and a PCI card slot. I know santa rosa is coming next year, i know it offers a 800 mhz FSB. What i don't know is what kind of chip will be used with it, and how large of a performance increase we'll see compared to what was released today.
BWhaler said:
I think it is all personal choice. I do a lot of graphic art work and make presentations and I have a G4 PB with the high-res matte screen.
My wife has a MacBook with the glossy screen and I much prefer hers. The colors are better saturated, they seem brighter, and the contrast is better. Black levels are definitely better.
I found the glare to be a very minor problem. If the light is strong enough to cause a bad glare problem on a glossy screen then the matte screen is dim enough that it is washed out as well.
I find the glossy screen easier to clean. I only use the kleen screen 2 stage wipes on the matte screen. The glossy screen comes clean with the wipe of a wet cotton cloth.
I was curious about the lack of a 7,200 rpm hard drive like most of you, so I was poking around the online store. If you click the down arrow for more info on the hard drive section (when configuring your mbp) there's a fourth entry that says:
"When performance is your top priority, upgrade to the 100GB 7200-rpm drive. The faster speed of the hard drive gives you faster data retrieval and increased performance."
not sure what that's all about.
cheers,
mike
"When performance is your top priority, upgrade to the 100GB 7200-rpm drive. The faster speed of the hard drive gives you faster data retrieval and increased performance."
not sure what that's all about.
cheers,
mike
reason why c2d is good
http://guides.macrumors.com/Core_2_Duo
That will give you reason enough to buy a C2D.
Penryn and Santa Rosa are also discussed. (briefly)
Sure they are better but there always will be something better. Especially with Intel. Chip development and implemetation will be much more frequent than with IBM's G-class crap.
http://guides.macrumors.com/Core_2_Duo
That will give you reason enough to buy a C2D.
Penryn and Santa Rosa are also discussed. (briefly)
Sure they are better but there always will be something better. Especially with Intel. Chip development and implemetation will be much more frequent than with IBM's G-class crap.
What is the expected delivery date in the UK
I have just placed on order on the UK online store for a MBP. It said four days, but I guess that fiction?!
This will be my 4th Mac for home. I got my first, the Mac Plus, in 1988 with 1mb ram and an external 20mb hard drive. It cost me over £2,000 (about $3,500) with an educational discount! How times mover on.
I have just placed on order on the UK online store for a MBP. It said four days, but I guess that fiction?!
This will be my 4th Mac for home. I got my first, the Mac Plus, in 1988 with 1mb ram and an external 20mb hard drive. It cost me over £2,000 (about $3,500) with an educational discount! How times mover on.
mac4evan said:
That is not true. Glare problems on glossy screens were exagerated by users exposed to poor first generation PC glossy screens.
The recent macbook and macbook pro glossy screens are very very nice. If the glare is bad on a glossy screen then the dim matte screen will be almost impossible to see clearly as well.
Just go to your local home theatre shop and see how many highend tv's have matte screens. Not very many. Almost all lcd, and DLP projection tvs use glossy screens.
Remember if the glare is a big problem for you, you can always put a matte overlay screen protector on the screen. Where as a glossy overlay will never make the matte lcd as bright and with as much contrast.
Commitment
Waiting for the ultimate tech is a life wasting activity. Personally, I am going to get the 17" because it has everything I need and will be useful for a long time to come. Besides, I am not convinced that Apple is going to adopt every processor Intel produces.
Surf and Turf said:
Waiting for the ultimate tech is a life wasting activity. Personally, I am going to get the 17" because it has everything I need and will be useful for a long time to come. Besides, I am not convinced that Apple is going to adopt every processor Intel produces.
mightymike107 said:
Are you sure it doesn't only apply to the 17 inch? If you configure a 17 inch MBP you can configure it with a 7200 100 GB drive.
It's only the 15 inch that this option is missing. Makes no sense to me, maybe Apple's site is just screwed up.
digitalbiker said:
I work in the Columbia, MD retail store like I had previously said and I work with them 18 hours a week and walk by / stand next to them 18 hours a week as well. So I know what I'm talking about. The majority of people that get MBPs get matted. (From my store at least...)
As for the home theater stuff, they are almost all non-matted because they are for 'Theaters' which to me implies good lighting conditions.
sedarby said:Waiting for the ultimate tech is a life wasting activity. Personally, I am going to get the 17" because it has everything I need and will be useful for a long time to come. Besides, I am not convinced that Apple is going to adopt every processor Intel produces.
Good for you. Besides I am not sure that Santa Rosa actually offers that much of boost for MacBook Pro users anyway.
As far as I can tell the only difference will be 667MHZ FSB to 800MHZ FSB, and NAND memory support.
Performance-wise this is no big deal. Probably amount to 5% boost in performance for faster memory and much faster boot times. But if you don't boot / re-boot a lot it's not a big deal.
Yes, but there are more advantageous times to buy and times to wait. Waiting for ever is never good, but being patient is a virtue that no one should lambaster.sedarby said:Waiting for the ultimate tech is a life wasting activity. Personally, I am going to get the 17" because it has everything I need and will be useful for a long time to come. Besides, I am not convinced that Apple is going to adopt every processor Intel produces.
There are cycles of technology. The most effective, and life-increasing time to buy something would be early in the technological cycle. The best is probably be in the middle, but the worst is definitely at the end, when it is about to become outdated, less useful, and still quite expensive unfortunately.
Santa Rosa has two clear new technologies that are well worth waiting. 802.11n is worth waiting for because a year afterwards all Wireless places will be N and you'll be missing out on a huge area increase. Plus Robson, its a huge jump in energy efficiency. A hybrid RAM-harddrive, cuts down on power, increases on performance, and will probably allow for a whole new method of "sleep". I think these are two features well worth waiting for. I could go and buy a computer right now. But I have a perfectly well working Last Rev 12" PB. I would miss the small size and right now its working perfect for me. I'm itching to play BF2.... but I don't think that will happen for awhile on a MBP. But still, if my computer broke at anytime I would not hesitate to buy a new MB.... probably not MBP. Thats not being wasteful with life.... thats being smart. Plan for the future while being ready fro the present.
Depending the age of the reference. Older Cars during the 50's and 60's only had Seatbelts where the high performance cars, where people were expected to drive fast.tmphoto said:
Performance wise..... What about battery life and 802.11n. Performance is everything my friend. Being able to use that battery life for an extra hour is pretty high on a priority for me.digitalbiker said:
Well, I did it!
But I may wind up canceling my order. I'm currently in NH (no sales tax), but I'm returning to Vancouver BC next Thursday, the 2nd. I blew it by not ordering first thing in the morning: estimated ship was 2-4 days, but is now 3-5 days. So my delivery window is Oct 31 - Nov 3. If it hasn't shipped by Monday, I guess I'll cancel. Either that, or just leave the order, and wait the 3 weeks until I'm back to get it.
I was undecided on 15/17, but since the 17 cannot get here in time, I went with the 15. Again, I can always cancel if I change my mind. I've had a 17 for the past 3.5 years, but I'm really getting tired of the weight, plus I have 23" displays in my two work environments anyway.
Oh, other decision: 160GB 5400. No way would I go smaller, but the tradeoffs vs. the 200GB 4200 are not so obvious. I could go for longer battery life, less heat, and more space.
But I may wind up canceling my order. I'm currently in NH (no sales tax), but I'm returning to Vancouver BC next Thursday, the 2nd. I blew it by not ordering first thing in the morning: estimated ship was 2-4 days, but is now 3-5 days. So my delivery window is Oct 31 - Nov 3. If it hasn't shipped by Monday, I guess I'll cancel. Either that, or just leave the order, and wait the 3 weeks until I'm back to get it.
I was undecided on 15/17, but since the 17 cannot get here in time, I went with the 15. Again, I can always cancel if I change my mind. I've had a 17 for the past 3.5 years, but I'm really getting tired of the weight, plus I have 23" displays in my two work environments anyway.
Oh, other decision: 160GB 5400. No way would I go smaller, but the tradeoffs vs. the 200GB 4200 are not so obvious. I could go for longer battery life, less heat, and more space.
Rocketman said:
Good questions. I doubt if things end (except perhaps the G5). There are enough whiners and trolls to keep these things going. Then there are just regular Mac users who use the site to offer suggestions, prognostications and what-if scenarios. I feel very fortunate to still be in love with my PB 1.5 17". But, it is not my primary computer, so I can view its' performance differently than those who do not have this luxury.