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It's not a race, but a catch-all term for those from Mexi-Meso-South America, which covers every flavor of people from white as a European winter, to vaguely brown, to direct line Mayan descent, to black as the ebon heart of Africa, with the commonality that they're from the south of us, and mostly speak Spanish.

Hispanic is to them as Caucasian is to white people of European/Slavic descent. It's a generalization, not a specific classification.

Exactly. It's just something to hammer us all into the same peg hole when we are actually diverse, multiple races.

The thread looks like it will get worse before better, I will leave you folks on this point.
 
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Pull up any photo of Steve Jobs with the teams that built great products

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Macintosh
iPod
iPhone
iPad

You know what those teams have in common? A lot of white skin.

Tim Cook needs to be spending more energy on great products. The product is all that matters, and it especially matters more than fake diversity.

You want to show me real diversity? Add Anne Colture and Herman Caine to the board of directors

Nah, Tim Cook doesn't care about political diversity. He just cares about skin color, gender and sexual orientation.
 
And who doing the positive discrimination? Apple?

Does it matter who applies positive discrimination?

The main subject in this thread appears to be:

"Positive discrimination is (GOOD/BAD)"

I simply stepped in and gave my opinion on whether or not I believe positive discrimination to be a good or bad thing. I feel like it's a bad thing, because there are other, in my opinion more effective, ways to increase diversity within a company.
 
If all executive boards were representative of demographics, they would all have majority women constituents. I suppose this would be acceptable to you.

I'm having trouble understanding your point. If men make up 49% and women make up 51%, it would make sense for executive boards, on average, to have the same representation. Would women having majority not be acceptable to you?
 
I'm a white male so I already have two strikes against me when looking for work. Ethnicity/gender should play no role in the selection of employees yet it continues to be a factor.
 
Any form of "reverse discrimination" is still just discrimination.

The fact white males are simply more qualified for most jobs is not a blight to be eradicated. It is a trend to be exploited by a smart employer.

Nothing is keeping Apple from increasing training programs for jobs traditionally held by women and minorities to improve their lot in life generally.

Wherever they move on to.

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This article is saying hey, this is where our company stands right now with diversity. But we've got a long way to go. They aren't saying let's hire all the minorities and woman we can ASAP to meet the fictional race quotas MacRumors members have. Please comprehend the article before you respond.

No, Tim Cook said outright "We are making progress, and we're committed to being as innovative in advancing diversity as we are in developing our products." By "we" he means Apple, not the USA. How does Apple advance diversity? I'm not saying there are race quotas. Most likely, they either look more for minorities, or it's just a lie, and they don't do anything.
 
And who doing the positive discrimination? Apple?

At least someone else in this post gets it. I'm still trying to understand why that user thinks discriminating against white people by allowing more competition from minorities is positive discrimination.
 
At least someone else in this post gets it. I'm still trying to understand why that user thinks discriminating against white people by allowing more competition from minorities is positive discrimination.

Because anything that hurts white people is considered good. That's the world today.
 
americans are so weird about that ... the first time I had to fill out the form to fly to the US I was so confused by the question "Are you white, black, latin american, asian ..." like wtf? what does it matter.

I live here and I say that every single time I see that on any form. Why does it matter and why the heck are they keeping track of it?
 
Because anything that hurts white people is considered good. That's the world today.
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If you are a source would be nice to back up that statement.:p
 
No, Tim Cook said outright "We are making progress, and we're committed to being as innovative in advancing diversity as we are in developing our products." By "we" he means Apple, not the USA.

I'm not sure what you're saying no to, because I repeated the same thing Tim Cook said, just using different semantics.

Do you think progress and advancing diversity means we need to hire as many minorities and woman as we can right now? Or do you think progress and advancing diversity means we are continually progressing towards hiring qualified individuals and many of those are becoming woman and minorities?
 
Easy fix apple, open up 5 stores in PR, USA :) No matter if the person is white black etc we are all hispanics…
I still fail to understand why there are no official apple stores here.
 
Because anything that hurts white people is considered good. That's the world today.

It's not discrimination at all, it's leveling the playing field. And it only hurts white people in the sense that they now have more competition. The job isn't automatically theirs like it may have been in the past. But I understand wanting to hold onto privilege, it's a beautiful thing.
 
Seems to me releasing this data causes more division than anything else. And how does Cook solve this problem without creating some sort of reverse discrimination? Unless he's saying Apple is currently discriminating against women, minorities and LGBT's?
 
Does it matter who applies positive discrimination?

The main subject in this thread appears to be:

"Positive discrimination is (GOOD/BAD)"

I simply stepped in and gave my opinion on whether or not I believe positive discrimination to be a good or bad thing. I feel like it's a bad thing, because there are other, in my opinion more effective, ways to increase diversity within a company.

Yes it matters. Let me make this clear as day. Are you saying that Apple is using ANY TYPE of discrimination to have a more diverse employment?

If your answer is YES, then all my previous posts stand.
If your answer is NO, then please explain what you are referring to when speaking about positive discrimination.

I can't get any clear than that.
 
Apple already has at-home jobs for technical support, but I think continuing to offer more and more positions at-home, whether it's Apple or any other company, is a big answer to helping people with disabilities be in the work force. There are people with conditions like dysautonomia or sensory issues who would be perfect for certain jobs but just can't deal with the day-in, day-out of going to an office.
 
I'm not saying that racism against whites is not a problem and I feel the pain of anyone of any race that goes through racism. But to say White America faces the same racist hatred as Black America is laughable. Don't compare the size of a pea to a watermelon.

ha, watermelon
 
Exactly. It's just something to hammer us all into the same peg hole when we are actually diverse, multiple races.

Well, it's not trying to stereotype an entire group of people and ignore all the various cultural differences among the people of the region. It's just a generic classification of a region of people with similar traits. Much the same way people from Japan, China, Korea, Vietnam, etc. are considered "asian", or people from Germany, Sweden, England, Georgia, Ukraine, etc. are "caucasian". People from Mexico, Brazil, Chile, Peru, Bolivia, etc. are "hispanic".

They're not meant to imply any connotations, positive or negative. They're just culturlal/haplotypical umbrella terms.

The thread looks like it will get worse before better, I will leave you folks on this point.

Well yeah, it's a racial topic on the internet. It's got nowhere to go but down. :p
 
I'm having trouble understanding your point. If men make up 49% and women make up 51%, it would make sense for executive boards, on average, to have the same representation. Would women having majority not be acceptable to you?

Of course you're having trouble understanding my point. That's my point!

As for women having the majority - they already do lol. And look where it's got them. You're just another man-hater masking herself under the guise of concern for social welfare. Too bad you and your ilk can never actually win.

Amazons = 1. Rest of the world = ∞.
 
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