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Apple Releases Employee Diversity Report, 7 out of 10 Workers Are Male, 55% White
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Focus is lost. In two years they have brilliantly invented a phone with a screen 0.7 inches larger. I'm feeling kinda done at this point.
Taken from a quick Google because I couldn't be bothered typing:
Positive discrimination is the process of giving preferential treatment, especially in employment, to minority groups of society that have been prejudiced against in the past. It should be noted that ‘preferential treatment’ does not mean that these individuals will automatically be preferred to another candidate, but rather should two candidates be deemed a similar level, the individual from the minority group will be preferred.
For example, should two candidates who are equally matched in skills go for a job and one is from a minority group and one isn’t, then positive discrimination will see that the former candidate will receive the job offer.
The idea of positive discrimination came from the US where an ‘affirmative action’ programme has been used to try and ensure the make-up of certain work places reflects that of society. It should be noted that under UK law you cannot discriminate against somebody because of their race, sex or social background as that would be against the law.
Then get rid of your Apple products. You wouldn't want to support a company that supports Jackson and Sharpton. Otherwise your talk is cheap.
Well, they did create a helluva nice ARM processor just last year, and added a bunch of cool features in the meantime. No, it hasn't been as amazing as the unveiling of the iPhone or iPad, but it's unreasonable to expect events that big ever other year. That's a once in every two decade thing.
In the tech world, no matter how big a deal it was, no matter how much it changed everything, it inevitably gets hitched to the same old boring incremental update bandwagon sooner or later. It's not that Apple, Google, MS, et al. are getting lazy. It's that there's only so much you can do with a brand new technology before it becomes standard.
You are factually wrong. Legally it is permissible to discriminate against white people. This is both statutory and backed up by tens of thousands of pages of case law.
Care to point out what was specifically irrational? I don't consider myself a particularly irrational person, though I accept that rationality can be hard to judge in yourself. If you can provide some compelling reason for categorizing my post as irrational, then by all means do so, and I'll become a better person as a result.
On another note, "all" of my other posts? This is my fourth on this thread, and only one of my prior posts (the one you were supposedly commenting on) contained an actual argument. Have you been stalking me across the MacRumors forums?
You say that as though what is going on is not deliberate.
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Ah yes, the final resort to ad hominem. lol. How much longer do you think that will work?
That response doesn't even make sense because they are wanting the same reports for other companies. The race baiters only play the race card for personal gain. Apple and every other company should tell them to **** and go away.
I noticed you didn't deny what I said. Truth hurts.
How are you so damn sure that he is gay and even if he is how is it your ****ing concern?
Hiring vs. Encouraging
Hiring for the sake of diversity and making sure you're encouraging diversity are two different things.
FOR EXAMPLE:
If you're recruiting by primarily going to universities where all the students are mostly white isn't encouraging diversity, making sure you're recruiting from a diverse pool helps diversity.
Making sure your postings appear in places that a diverse population WILL see them helps too.
Gary
Hiring for the sake of diversity and making sure you're encouraging diversity are two different things.
FOR EXAMPLE:
If you're recruiting by primarily going to universities where all the students are mostly white isn't encouraging diversity, making sure you're recruiting from a diverse pool helps diversity.
Making sure your postings appear in places that a diverse population WILL see them helps too.
Gary
How is it any of our concern what the make up of Apple's workforce is? And yet Apple voluntarily released that information.
Really now??
This is interesting.
Tell me more about what "agenda" he is pushing. Didn't you think the 2013 rMBP's were good? Personally I really enjoy mine.
So the answer is no. I'm not a supporter of gay marriage or global warming so I'm sure Cook would never hire me. Diverse is fine so long as it confirms to the majority political view inside the walls of the mothership.
A rumour about him being gay is NOT
The same as a diversity report. You don't care about diversity? Fine. Who told you to read this article? Were you held at gun point?
The way you keep on, it sounds to me like you are using this as an excuse for your own failure to get on in life.
LOL! "Supporter of global warming"
No one here is a supporter of global warming, it's a real phenomenon which very may well destroy the planet as we currently know it.
Now tell me, what's wrong with gay marriage? How does it affect you? Do you have to give up some of your rights?
bradl said:
Uhhh help please.
But Apple hasn't told them to go away, which by your logic Apple loves the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons, which means Apple hates the white man.
You should smash all your Apple products now. Or be a hypocrite and wait in line for the iPhone 6.
It annoys me to see how Apple have doctored their statistics to make the white percentage look as low as possible. If you look at this pie chart (courtesy of Ars technica) you'll see that the 55% whites are counted separately from those who didn't declare their race.
So we are to assume that NONE of the 9% undeclared are white? No, this pie chart shouldn't include the yellow segment at all. The fraction of workers who are white (based on the data we actually have) is 55/91, which is just over 60%.
So we are to assume that NONE of the 9% undeclared are white? No, this pie chart shouldn't include the yellow segment at all. The fraction of workers who are white (based on the data we actually have) is 55/91, which is just over 60%.
There are a lot of people here who act as if the past never happened.
I am pretty confident that Apple will not start hiring "B" and "C" candidates in the name of being more "racial-" or gender-diverse. What would be cool is if they put more effort in finding potential "A-level" candidates of color in the world's universities, and grooming and recruiting people for the company. If Apple would make some STEM developments in developing nations, encouraging some of the best and brightest into STEM, then cultivating future talent.
As someone who happens to be a Black American, it is something that I would like to see. Hire the best, I have no problem with that. However, I laud Apple in committing to an effort to find (and hopefully cultivate) new talent...that is an untapped resource for new ideas.
Really now??
This is interesting.
Tell me more about what "agenda" he is pushing. Didn't you think the 2013 rMBP's were good? Personally I really enjoy mine.
Sheesh! Didn't you read the article? Tim said he's "not satisfied" with the diversity numbers. What do you think he meant by that? That they need to hire more white males?
Diversity should be achieved by picking the best person for the job, any other metric taints people you employ as being quota hires:
So do Ahrendts and Wagner appreciate being quota hires brought in to boost Apple's female leadership diversity?