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I wish they would fix the Phone app. I have problems with AT&T's <WiFi Calling> and <VoLTE services>. The baseband crashes and the phone does not want to connect to the IMS anymore so I get stuck on 3G (4G alpha tag) while on a call until I reboot or "Reset Network Settings". This happens to me everyday at least once. Eventually the 3G network will be shutdown so it will be a loss of service.
 
If any critic is a "hater" to you, I would suggest anger management counselling.

It's not about Animojis per se, but about an iOS that's remained unchanged for years other than under-the-hood maintenance adjustments, and the most strongly publicised features with each release seem to be about iMessage balloons and Animojis.

PS. Animojis are tangible fun for the few millions who own an X-R-S iPhone but to the hundreds of millions who use SE through 8 are meaningless. That's also the world you live in, and those users would appreciate some new features that aren't locked to the new generation phones.
Ok, not sure who is the angry one here (clearly its you). What exactly do you want your 5 year old phone to do that Apple isn't providing? Apple gives more new features to 3, 4 and 5 year old phones than ANY OTHER manufacturer out there though software updates. There literally isn't anywhere you can go other than apple that will give you new features on a 5 year old phone with software updates.

P.S. "Haters gonna hate" is an expression you clearly never heard of.
 
Ugh, I can't believe how much effort Apple engineers must put into emoji! Stuff like this never would've flown back at the old Apple!

On an entirely unrelated note, did anybody else read that illuminating article about Clarus the dogcow, a glyph in one of the Macintosh's wingding fonts that endeared itself to engineers of the time?

You are completely right. This emoji stuff must stop. I hope people other than us notice that emoji exist on Apple devices.

Regarding Clarus, I found out she is currently living on a server farm upstate.
 
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Ugh, I can't believe how much effort Apple engineers must put into emoji! Stuff like this never would've flown back at the old Apple!

On an entirely unrelated note, did anybody else read that illuminating article about Clarus the dogcow, a glyph in one of the Macintosh's wingding fonts that endeared itself to engineers of the time?

I don't have a problem with emojis. What is strange to me is why they need to be considered part of an operating system update.

Why not just treat it like downloading a font, or a sticker pack in other apps?

I suppose then we might miss out on emojis that can crash iOS, but I'd consider that a bonus.
 
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What would you expect from "the Hack from compaq"
Yeah... like, I know it rhymes, but it’s really not as clever as you must think it is whenever you post it.

Would you care to enlighten us as to how many months Cook spent as a VP at the #1 computer manufacturer before he realized it was a crap show? (Less than a year later Compaq imploded, with the CEO and numerous top execs forced out, as Dell began to utterly destroy Compaq.)
 
I think it would be awesome if we could have a separate thread for people to bash or defend Animojis.

Then I could ignore it and watch this thread to learn about people's experiences with 12.2b5.

I don't mean to be a jerk, it's just that everything that can be said about Animojis, pro or con, has been said and that conversation is just going in circles now. Which dilutes the information people are sharing or looking for here about what is working well or not so well with beta 5.
 
I think it would be awesome if we could have a separate thread for people to bash or defend Animojis.

Then I could ignore it and watch this thread to learn about people's experiences with 12.2b5.

I don't mean to be a jerk, it's just that everything that can be said about Animojis, pro or con, has been said and that conversation is just going in circles now. Which dilutes the information people are sharing or looking for here about what is working well or not so well with beta 5.

If we got rid of emoji/animoji babble and posts that refer to “Timmy,” that would leave only 10% of posts.
 
Installed. Let the testing begin.
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Don't twist my words please.

You said "Do you believe Apple is such a small company it can either deliver Animoji or a substantial update?"

Which is a loaded question to boot. Well, no. I'm saying they CAN deliver both, they sure have the resources, but at the end of the day, they don't. And I don't know why. Clear?

PS. Funny that as a small company on the brink of bankruptcy they released much more fascinating products. Maybe they need to get hungry again. Or resurrect Jobs.
Are you a beta tester and have any feedback about the beta?
 
Does anyone over the age of 12 use Animojis? Why does Apple continue to spend money on this? Give me an accessible file system instead of a shark face.

Two completely different groups, I imagine. Art people over there that do arty things like animojis vs iOS/filesystem engineers over there that have a 100% different skillset that are working on lots of things that have absolutely nothing to do with animojis.
 
I wish they would fix the Phone app. I have problems with AT&T's <WiFi Calling> and <VoLTE services>. The baseband crashes and the phone does not want to connect to the IMS anymore so I get stuck on 3G (4G alpha tag) while on a call until I reboot or "Reset Network Settings". This happens to me everyday at least once. Eventually the 3G network will be shutdown so it will be a loss of service.

I’m likely to stop running beta code because of this very problem. Yesterday had to restart my X to get the function back.
 
I don't have a problem with emojis. What is strange to me is why they need to be considered part of an operating system update.

Why not just treat it like downloading a font, or a sticker pack in other apps?

I suppose then we might miss out on emojis that can crash iOS, but I'd consider that a bonus.
You answered your own question: Emoji are part of the system's core font. It makes sense they'd come with system updates.
 
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What's new in iOS 12.2 beta 5: In iOS 12.2, when setting up a new Apple Watch, Apple is using location to make sure the ECG feature is available in a particular region, suggesting the company may be planning to geofence ECG functionality and limit it to the United States.

This would potentially prevent customers who purchased a U.S. Apple Watch but live in another country from using the ECG feature. Location is verified via SIM card and can't be bypassed during Apple Watch setup

This is bummer, I use the very first generation Apple Watch, I would like to get a new one, but I don't want to pay for something I cannot use. I understand Apple need to fulfil local regulations stuff, but I don't understand why they actively try to stop people outside the US from using ECG.

I still pay the same, if some features won't be available outside some regions it should be reflected to their price, I don't want to pay for non functional ECG watch.
 
Ok, not sure who is the angry one here (clearly its you). What exactly do you want your 5 year old phone to do that Apple isn't providing? Apple gives more new features to 3, 4 and 5 year old phones than ANY OTHER manufacturer out there though software updates. There literally isn't anywhere you can go other than apple that will give you new features on a 5 year old phone with software updates.

P.S. "Haters gonna hate" is an expression you clearly never heard of.

You don't need to go out of your way with inept assumptions. Also, the iPhone 8 is less than 2 years old.

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Let's see....
  • iOS 12.1 added several features (dual SIM support, Group FaceTime), added 70 emoji, had several bug fixes and numerous security updates.
  • iOS 12.1.1 also added several features, fixed several bugs and also fixed several security exploits.
  • iOS 12.1.2 had a few bug fixes.
  • iOS 12.1.3 had a few bug fixes.
  • iOS 12.1.4 had a few security fixes.
  • iOS 12.2 has new features, bug fixes, 4 new Animoji and security updates.

Your claim that "all recent updates seem to be revolving around infantile gimmicks like Animoji's" is demonstrably false. Therefore your original statement is not being critical, but rather deceitful.

Funny you should call me deceitful. Have you even read your own list? Other than security fixes and 2 pre-announced features (dual SIM support and Group FaceTime) all you have left are emojis and animojis. You've basically just proven my own point, thanks.

Let's not stop there, because my comment was referring to annual releases of the past few years. Let's take a step back. Just think of what e.g. iOS 9.0 brought into the picture in a none-too-dissimilar time fashion (other than emojis):
• 9.1 brought updates to Mail, CarPlay, Music, Photos, Safari, Search, and new Live Photo features
• 9.2 was loaded with Mail, Music, Books, Calendar, Safari fixes etc
• 9.3 brought even more improvements across the board, including features like Night Shift

Is iOS getting more polished? Maybe. I'll digress because as UX/UI designer I preferred the edge to edge styling and subtle typography of iOS 9 than the ultrajumbo fonts, erratic alignments and wasteful translucent cards of 10 & onwards.

But has it gotten anything really *new* about its functionality or aesthetics? Not really. It's gotten pretty convoluted in fact, some of the most common options being hidden within layers upon layers of settings. Have they figured out how to make a better use of the lockscreen widgets that are a massive waste of space (esp. on larger phones and iPads)? Is iOS offering any compelling advantages or information density on larger devices or iPads, other than responsively spreading the same icon grid and content on a larger screen (not including iPad-centric third party Pro apps)?

Is Apple taking any effort to improve its core apps, other than messenger effects and animojis? Mail, Music, Camera, Calendar, Phone have pretty much remained stagnant, and that's not because they've "achieved perfection" or anything. There's a lot of work that can be done there (how about e.g. not interrupting you from everything each time you take a call). Or maybe Apple is resigned to the knowledge that users are just gonna download better third party apps to perform basic tasks for a premium fee (30% of which will go back to Apple anyway). Or maybe iOS novelty is reserved to laughable AR demos of people stacking virtual legos on their iPads in front of an empty table just to make Tim happy.

Knock yourself out calling me a hater, but I'd be a pretty nonsensical hater when all I want is for the platform I've been using for the last 10 years to become measurably BETTER over time so I can use it with delight and not out of pure habit. Plus, I expect more from a "trillion dollar company" given its historic performance and its lush expenditure on R&D.
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Two completely different groups, I imagine. Art people over there that do arty things like animojis vs iOS/filesystem engineers over there that have a 100% different skillset that are working on lots of things that have absolutely nothing to do with animojis.

Somehow it's only the animojis that get to see the light of day though.
 
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You don't need to go out of your way with inept assumptions. Also, the iPhone 8 is less than 2 years old.

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Funny you should call me deceitful. Have you even read your own list? Other than security fixes and 2 pre-announced features (dual SIM support and Group FaceTime) all you have left are emojis and animojis. You've basically just proven my own point, thanks.

Let's not stop there, because my comment was referring to annual releases of the past few years. Let's take a step back. Just think of what e.g. iOS 9.0 brought into the picture in a none-too-dissimilar time fashion (other than emojis):
• 9.1 brought updates to Mail, CarPlay, Music, Photos, Safari, Search, and new Live Photo features
• 9.2 was loaded with Mail, Music, Books, Calendar, Safari fixes etc
• 9.3 brought even more improvements across the board, including features like Night Shift

Is iOS getting more polished? Maybe. I'll digress because as UX/UI designer I preferred the edge to edge styling and subtle typography of iOS 9 than the ultrajumbo fonts, erratic alignments and wasteful translucent cards of 10 & onwards.

But has it gotten anything really *new* about its functionality or aesthetics? Not really. It's gotten pretty convoluted in fact, some of the most common options being hidden within layers upon layers of settings. Have they figured out how to make a better use of the lockscreen widgets that are a massive waste of space (esp. on larger phones and iPads)? Is iOS offering any compelling advantages or information density on larger devices or iPads, other than responsively spreading the same icon grid and content on a larger screen (not including iPad-centric third party Pro apps)? Is Apple taking any effort to improve its core apps, other than messenger effects and animojis? Mail, Music, Camera, Calendar, Phone have pretty much remained stagnant, and that's not because they've "achieved perfection" or anything. There's a lot of work that can be done there (how about e.g. not interrupting you from everything each time you take a call). Or maybe Apple is resigned to the knowledge that users are just gonna download better third party apps to perform basic tasks for a premium fee (30% of which will go back to Apple anyway). Or maybe iOS novelty is reserved to laughable AR demos of people stacking virtual legos on their iPads in front of an empty table just to make Tim happy.

Knock yourself out calling me a hater, but I'd be a pretty nonsensical hater when all I want is for the platform I've been using for the last 10 years to become measurably BETTER over time so I can use it with delight and not out of pure habit. Plus, I expect more from a "trillion dollar company" given its historic performance and its lush expenditure on R&D.
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Somehow it's only the animojis that get to see the light of day though.

Funny, I never called you a hater. You want to stick to what I said instead of making up things you “think” I said?

All I did is comment on something you posted and showed how it was false. Apparently that required a novelette by you to try and convince me You meant something else.
 
Funny, I never called you a hater. You want to stick to what I said instead of making up things you “think” I said?

All I did is comment on something you posted and showed how it was false. Apparently that required a novelette by you to try and convince me You meant something else.

Wow. Out of all the things I wrote, you chose to go on a tangent over a word.

Thank you for proving my points. Again. The "novelette" was a recount of the last iOS updates. It was your assumption that my initial post ever referred to iOS 12 .x and .0x updates.
 
Somehow it's only the animojis that get to see the light of day though.

Orders of magnitude easier to implement than a redesign of the iOS filesystem and UIs to interact with same. Also, we have no idea if an exposed file system is even something Apple is working on. Is there enough demand for it? The skillset required to do those kinds of things in a secure, manageable way are far more rare than the skillsets required to do some artwork/motion points for animojis. And those folks with those skillsets inside Apple are clearly working on other things that are higher priority, demand, and necessity than exposing a file system that most folks don't really seem to need or want.

Anecdotally, of the dozen or so iPhone users that come to mind, I've not heard one say they wanted one ... and even myself, as a career deep-tech worker, can only recall a couple of times over the last (nearly) 12 years that I would've had a decent use for one. That's not to say there aren't other people that do have compelling reasons to want an exposed file system on iOS. Clearly, there are. But just as clearly, those people are in a pretty small minority (and, no, you can't take the feedback offered on sites like MacRumors as a representative slice of the iOS user base).
 
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