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So you want Apple to give you a discount because of the local restrictions from your lawmakers? No. If you buy it at a discount, and then later on your local health ministry greenlights the product, are you willing to pay the difference at that point, or will you accuse Apple of being greedy?
Yes, I pay for a component in a device I cannot use and Apple actively stopping me from using it.
If that was the case I’d have no problem to pay extra to reactivate that feature.
 
Yes, I pay for a component in a device I cannot use and Apple actively stopping me from using it.
If that was the case I’d have no problem to pay extra to reactivate that feature.

You have a car that can go 100 mph. The speed limit however is only 35 mph. Who is stopping you from going 100 mph? The car - GM, Ford, Mazda, Toyota, etc, stopping you? No?

Well, I can go 100 mph in the USA, I should be allowed to go 100 mph in any other country I travel. So now local laws do not apply to you? You want to be an active participant in breaking local laws in the country traveled?

It is the local laws that are stopping you.

Does that make it a tough sell to get an Apple Watch Series 4 in other countries - yes definitely.
 
You have a car that can go 100 mph. The speed limit however is only 35 mph. Who is stopping you from going 100 mph? The car - GM, Ford, Mazda, Toyota, etc, stopping you? No?

Well, I can go 100 mph in the USA, I should be allowed to go 100 mph in any other country I travel. So now local laws do not apply to you? You want to be an active participant in breaking local laws in the country traveled?

It is the local laws that are stopping you.

Does that make it a tough sell to get an Apple Watch Series 4 in other countries - yes definitely.

Not the same logic, let me fix it for you.
I bought an automatic transmission car, and laws in my country not allow me to drive it in automatic, so I have to put it to manual and perform gear change by pushing a button, effectively it's a manual car with no clutch pedal.
What I would do is, logically, buy a manual transmission car.
In Apple's case I still have to pay for sth I cannot use whatsoever, so much different from speed limit.
 
Not the same logic, let me fix it for you.
I bought an automatic transmission car, and laws in my country not allow me to drive it in automatic, so I have to put it to manual and perform gear change by pushing a button, effectively it's a manual car with no clutch pedal.
What I would do is, logically, buy a manual transmission car.
In Apple's case I still have to pay for sth I cannot use whatsoever, so much different from speed limit.

Why did you buy the car when you knew the country would not allow it? How is that the car manufacturer’s problem? They designed a car with specific capabilities and expect compensation. If you still choose to buy it then that’s on you.
 
Why did you buy the car when you knew the country would not allow it? How is that the car manufacturer’s problem? They designed a car with specific capabilities and expect compensation. If you still choose to buy it then that’s on you.
Not sure if you are being serious. I don't have an option, there is only one model.
For example Apple Watch Cellular is only available in some countries and there is a price difference. This could be done in the same way, like ECG or non-ECG.
 
Not sure if you are being serious. I don't have an option, there is only one model.
For example Apple Watch Cellular is only available in some countries and there is a price difference. This could be done in the same way, like ECG or non-ECG.
Exactly. Especially considering that not a single country will get ECG on the series 4 before the next model, to be called presumably series 5, comes out and that some countries may never even get it at all as is the case with other features such Apple Pay or News which some countries such as Mexico never got at all.
 
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The labels and even the buttons in the remote app feel way too big. It’s as if they designed this for a smaller phone and just scaled it up. I’m on an iPhone X so I can only imagine how big this looks on Max.
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I read they were going to add a volume control to the TV app. Where is it on the app? I don't own a phone but I have an iPad.
 
I read they were going to add a volume control to the TV app. Where is it on the app? I don't own a phone but I have an iPad.
It's in the built in remote interface (accessed using the control center button), not the TV app, where Apple will be adding the volume control. However, knowing apple's ways, I wouldn't expect the volume control to be always displayed as part of the remote control, but rather only when the remote is being used to control a TV with HomeKit support instead of an Apple TV. Since the screenshot posted above by another forum user shows the iOS remote being used to control an Apple TV, it makes sense not to see any volume controls on there. Also note that, if that user is running iOS 12.2 (which is the software that supposedly adds those volume controls) right now, he's obviously running a beta version, so even what we now see in his screenshot may be modified by Apple for the public release.
 
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I read they were going to add a volume control to the TV app. Where is it on the app? I don't own a phone but I have an iPad.

There already is volume control in the Remote App. There always has been. When you're in the Remote App, your iPhone's volume buttons control the TV's volume if it's supported by your TV. If you have a speaker like a HomePod or a bluetooth speaker connected to the AppleTV, your iPhone's volume rocker controls the speaker's volume.
 
There already is volume control in the Remote App. There always has been. When you're in the Remote App, your iPhone's volume buttons control the TV's volume if it's supported by your TV. If you have a speaker like a HomePod or a bluetooth speaker connected to the AppleTV, your iPhone's volume rocker controls the speaker's volume.
Yeah I knew that. They ought to put volume controls on the screen though. Using the iPhone or iPad's own volume buttons isn't very intuitive.
 
There already is volume control in the Remote App. There always has been. When you're in the Remote App, your iPhone's volume buttons control the TV's volume if it's supported by your TV. If you have a speaker like a HomePod or a bluetooth speaker connected to the AppleTV, your iPhone's volume rocker controls the speaker's volume.
I only have an iPad and it appears my 9 yr old Toshiba TV does not support volume control from the iPad. I adjusted the volume control buttons on my iPad and it made no difference.
 
I only have an iPad and it appears my 9 yr old Toshiba TV does not support volume control from the iPad. I adjusted the volume control buttons on my iPad and it made no difference.

Yeah, TVs only widely started supporting control through HDMI recently. My TV turns off when I turn off my AppleTV and volume is also controlled with my AppleTV remote.
 
Yeah, TVs only widely started supporting control through HDMI recently. My TV turns off when I turn off my AppleTV and volume is also controlled with my AppleTV remote.
I can adjust my volume with my AppleTV remote (4th Gen) via HDMI but I can’t adjust the volume with my iPad Air running iOS 12. Hopefully that will change if the Remote TV app has a volume control when iOS 12.2 gets released.
 
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