Apple Releases Fifth Developer Beta of iOS 12.2 [Update: Public Beta Available]

[realtuner]

Wow. Out of all the things I wrote, you chose to go on a tangent over a word.

Thank you for proving my points. Again. The "novelette" was a recount of the last iOS updates. It was your assumption that my initial post ever referred to iOS 12 .x and .0x updates.

Haven’t proven any of your points. All I see is someone who told a lie, tried to backpedal by clarifying what they “really meant”, and was called out by several people over it.

Next time say what you mean the first time around instead of “assuming” people can read your mind about what you’re really trying to say.

 

[lartola]

Ugh, I can't believe how much effort Apple engineers must put into emoji! Stuff like this never would've flown back at the old Apple!

On an entirely unrelated note, did anybody else read that illuminating article about Clarus the dogcow, a glyph in one of the Macintosh's wingding fonts that endeared itself to engineers of the time?

And I can't believe how much effort they put into being more restrictive with certain features.
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I wish there was something that would interest me in this update as an iPhone 8 user that doesn't own an Apple TV and lives in Germany (therefore News and Apple cash are not available).

Quasi-curious about the new Safari features.
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Happiness is also to use your ecosystem of choice and have it provide useful features across the board. Who are you to ostracise Apple users who simply want a better experience from their native platform?

The problem is not that Animoji's are an infantile gimmick –it's that all recent updates seem to be revolving around infantile gimmicks like Animoji's. Why can't we have both advanced features and playful little nothings?

Apple Pay cash is not available in Germany, but Apple Pay IS indeed available since last December. Just in case you weren't aware of it.
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Couple of changes - News icon now showing up in Settings, XS is now spelled Xs in Settings -> About

News icon ALREADY showed up in settings in previous versions of iOS. The only change made in iOS 12 is that the new News icon has the colors inverted (red foreground and white background vs white foreground and red background before).
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This is bummer, I use the very first generation Apple Watch, I would like to get a new one, but I don't want to pay for something I cannot use. I understand Apple need to fulfil local regulations stuff, but I don't understand why they actively try to stop people outside the US from using ECG.

I still pay the same, if some features won't be available outside some regions it should be reflected to their price, I don't want to pay for non functional ECG watch.

They're overdoing it as usual, and I think it's time to consider switching platforms. Nonetheless, I still wonder if that change will disable ECG upon updating for those of us that already had it set up or only for people who buy their watch and try to set up ECG for the first time after iOS 12.2 is out.

 

[ImaxGuy]

Ugh, I can't believe how much effort Apple engineers must put into emoji! Stuff like this never would've flown back at the old Apple!

On an entirely unrelated note, did anybody else read that illuminating article about Clarus the dogcow, a glyph in one of the Macintosh's wingding fonts that endeared itself to engineers of the time?

Moof!

 

[Aston441]

Apple has slowed down iOS 12 to almost iOS 11 speed now. In my heart I know they are doing it intentionally. I hate them so much.

 

[bryn0076]

Does anyone over the age of 12 use Animojis? Why does Apple continue to spend money on this? Give me an accessible file system instead of a shark face.

I’m not picking on alphaswift specifically here - but jeez, so much whinging.

Why do some people care that Apple are developing a feature that they deem childish?
It’s fun, people like it and it led to a successful viral marketing campaign. The feature also serves to showcase hardware features of the phone and can help evolve 3D object mapping technology and improve AR.

Whingers gonna whinge.

 

[bingeciren]

I’m not picking on alphaswift specifically here - but jeez, so much whinging.

Why do some people care that Apple are developing a feature that they deem childish?
It’s fun, people like it and it led to a successful viral marketing campaign. The feature also serves to showcase hardware features of the phone and can help evolve 3D object mapping technology and improve AR.

Whingers gonna whinge.

Simple things pleases simple minds.

 

[GuruZac]

I get your point on the apparent uselessness of them. However, as a dad of 2, they are priceless.. I spend half the year traveling for work, and they love when I use them in facetime conversations. So yea, they aren't solving world hunger, or making iOS better, but they absolutely make my kids laugh so they do extend the usefulness for me.

Could not agree more. My 4 year old and 2 year old girls love playing with Animojis and they've made some priceless memories making videos of them. I don't use them outside of my daughters but it's still a cool feature.
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Apple has slowed down iOS 12 to almost iOS 11 speed now. In my heart I know they are doing it intentionally. I hate them so much.

What evidence is there for that claim? I've read no where else iOS 12 slowing down. It certainly is super fast on my XR and my wife's 7 Plus and she's on iOS 12.2 Beta 4 and I'm on 12.2 Beta 5.

 

[I7guy]

Apple has slowed down iOS 12 to almost iOS 11 speed now. In my heart I know they are doing it intentionally. I hate them so much.

While I understand this is your opinion, this goes against the grain for most of the feedback on iOS 12.

 

[hermes16]

Yeah... like, I know it rhymes, but it’s really not as clever as you must think it is whenever you post it.

Would you care to enlighten us as to how many months Cook spent as a VP at the #1 computer manufacturer before he realized it was a crap show? (Less than a year later Compaq imploded, with the CEO and numerous top execs forced out, as Dell began to utterly destroy Compaq.)

You fail to see the mentality that was brought over from compaq. Compaq was not know for innovation, nor letting it's users to easily work on their own computers. John Sculley was more of an innovator and didn't jack up the price on all the products. At least he had a computer at each price point for every user which didn't have the memory soldered on the motherboard. Throwing the Pro badge on a product and jacking up the price is not innovation. So he was the rat that got off the ship first.. good job.

 

[Kaibelf]

This is bummer, I use the very first generation Apple Watch, I would like to get a new one, but I don't want to pay for something I cannot use. I understand Apple need to fulfil local regulations stuff, but I don't understand why they actively try to stop people outside the US from using ECG.

I still pay the same, if some features won't be available outside some regions it should be reflected to their price, I don't want to pay for non functional ECG watch.

So you want Apple to give you a discount because of the local restrictions from your lawmakers? No. If you buy it at a discount, and then later on your local health ministry greenlights the product, are you willing to pay the difference at that point, or will you accuse Apple of being greedy?

 

[The Oak]

This is bummer, I use the very first generation Apple Watch, I would like to get a new one, but I don't want to pay for something I cannot use. I understand Apple need to fulfil local regulations stuff, but I don't understand why they actively try to stop people outside the US from using ECG.

I still pay the same, if some features won't be available outside some regions it should be reflected to their price, I don't want to pay for non functional ECG watch.

So you want Apple to give you a discount because of the local restrictions from your lawmakers? No. If you buy it at a discount, and then later on your local health ministry greenlights the product, are you willing to pay the difference at that point, or will you accuse Apple of being greedy?

It is more like the hamburger approach ... we are going to give you all the "toppings" if you like them, eat them, or not.

Your government just happens to "remove" a topping before you get it ...

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It is kind of like the satellite GPS systems. Here in the USA, the government prevents the use of the more accurate European GPS satellites. Some phones are very capable to use them however, but prevented.

 

[TheWatchfulOne]

Simple things pleases simple minds.

What exactly is simple about 3D object mapping technology and augmented reality?

 

[Aston441]

While I understand this is your opinion, this goes against the grain for most of the feedback on iOS 12.

The first versions of 12 were awesome. The last two versions are slow garbage across my many iOS devices.
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Could not agree more. My 4 year old and 2 year old girls love playing with Animojis and they've made some priceless memories making videos of them. I don't use them outside of my daughters but it's still a cool feature.
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What evidence is there for that claim? I've read no where else iOS 12 slowing down. It certainly is super fast on my XR and my wife's 7 Plus and she's on iOS 12.2 Beta 4 and I'm on 12.2 Beta 5.

On my old 5s it's junk now. Initially 12 was amazing. On my touch 6 it's junk too. I even notice the slowdown on my 6s plus and brand new iPad 6. It's not as dramatic, but definitely there. It happened two point versions ago and hasn't improved. Oddly my SE seems to have the least slowdown. I guess they'll try to kill that too with the next or last version of 12. This is standard Apple behavior lately.

 

[I7guy]

The first versions of 12 were awesome. The last two versions are slow garbage across my many iOS devices.
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On my old 5s it's junk now. Initially 12 was amazing. On my touch 6 it's junk too. I even notice the slowdown on my 6s plus and brand new iPad 6. It's not as dramatic, but definitely there. It happened two point versions ago and hasn't improved. Oddly my SE seems to have the least slowdown. I guess they'll try to kill that too with the next or last version of 12. This is standard Apple behavior lately.

On my 5s and max beta 5 is very good. Do t know why there would be wildly different opinion on the same hardware, but as always ymmv.

 

[lartola]

So you want Apple to give you a discount because of the local restrictions from your lawmakers? No. If you buy it at a discount, and then later on your local health ministry greenlights the product, are you willing to pay the difference at that point, or will you accuse Apple of being greedy?

Apple could have made a cheaper version of the series 4 without the ECG hardware in it to be sold in countries where they don't have clearance. Something similar to what they do with the LTE Apple Watch models, which are not sold in countries where there isn't at least one carrier that will activate cellular service for them, and only the lower priced aluminum case GPS-only Apple Watch models are sold in those countries.

Furthermore, Apple didn't have to be as aggressive as they are trying to be in restricting the ECG app. Blocking it based on physical location obtained from the carrier is a terrible idea, because they will be unnecessarily harming US customers who travel outside the US (unless the location check is only performed during the initial setup for the ECG app, that is, in which case people who had already activated it before updating to iOS 12.2 likely won't be affected when they travel outside the US).

 

[ErikGrim]

I know that this is a rare scenario, but wouldn't this mean that Americans on holiday would lose their ECG readings?

 

[bingeciren]

What exactly is simple about 3D object mapping technology and augmented reality?

A lot of technology goes into making a cartoon movie too, yet it’s not a brain surgery or mission to Mars. In the end an image of a dinasour smiling at you. I’m glad it amuses you.

 

[bryn0076]

A lot of technology goes into making a cartoon movie too, yet it’s not a brain surgery or mission to Mars. In the end an image of a dinasour smiling at you. I’m glad it amuses you.

It’s a simple question that is based on your assumptions and your words and you don’t seem capable of answering it.

What exactly is simple about 3D object mapping technology and augmented reality?

Are you like your very own simple avatar; wanting to be grandiose yet struggling to fly? That, my friend, amuses me.

 

[bingeciren]

It’s a simple question that is based on your assumptions and your words and you don’t seem capable of answering it.

What exactly is simple about 3D object mapping technology and augmented reality?

Are you like your very own simple avatar; wanting to be grandiose yet struggling to fly? That, my friend, amuses me.

Having sophisticated technology behind what is being accomplished does not make the end result equally sophisticated or complicated. One can use space age technology to make a smiling poop that follows your mimics but it is still a smiling poop in the end.

Besides, I believe the main criticism in this forum was about Apple adding a Shark Emoji to the ever growing emoji collection rather than the 3D Object Mapping and Augmented Reality, which the Animojis are a byproduct of that technology, designed primarily for the 3D Face ID.

By the way, my simple avatar "Captain Klutz" goes back to the late sixties, belongs to a Mad Magazine cartoonist named Don Martin. I find it silly and amusing too.

 

[I7guy]

Having sophisticated technology behind what is being accomplished does not make the end result equally sophisticated or complicated. One can use space age technology to make a smiling poop that follows your mimics but it is still a smiling poop in the end.

Besides, I believe the main criticism in this forum was about Apple adding a Shark Emoji to the ever growing emoji collection rather than the 3D Object Mapping and Augmented Reality, which the Animojis are a byproduct of that technology, designed primarily for the 3D Face ID.

By the way, my simple avatar "Captain Klutz" goes back to the late sixties, belongs to a Mad Magazine cartoonist named Don Martin. I find it silly and amusing too.

I wonder how much of the requirements for IOS development are actually taken by Apple employees reading the MacRumors threads. Hopefully not much, because if so:
- there wouldn't be any emojis or animojis

On the flip side if Apple did:
- ios would be more android like
- there would be a headphone jack
- there would be a finger print sensor under the glass

I'm old enough to remember Don Martin and Mad Magazine and some of his zany stuff. He was talented. What? Me Worry?

 

[timi22]

After updating to iOS 12.2 beta 5 on my iPhone XS Max appeared Apple Pay cash , just can’t active it yet, location United Kingdom

And I can't believe how much effort they put into being more restrictive with certain features.
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Apple Pay cash is not available in Germany, but Apple Pay IS indeed available since last December. Just in case you weren't aware of it.
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News icon ALREADY showed up in settings in previous versions of iOS. The only change made in iOS 12 is that the new News icon has the colors inverted (red foreground and white background vs white foreground and red background before).
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They're overdoing it as usual, and I think it's time to consider switching platforms. Nonetheless, I still wonder if that change will disable ECG upon updating for those of us that already had it set up or only for people who buy their watch and try to set up ECG for the first time after iOS 12.2 is out.

 

[lartola]

I know that this is a rare scenario, but wouldn't this mean that Americans on holiday would lose their ECG readings?

That depends on how apple implements the restriction. Right now in the beta version of iOS 12.2 it's not clear whether the location check through the wireless carrier is made only once during the first time setup (in which case those who set it up before updating wouldn't be affected) or repeated every so often even after the initial setup (in which case, US customers physically located outside the US may see ECG disabled upon updating to iOS 12.2). Whichever is the case, we'll only know for sure when the public version of iOS 12.2 is out. If it turns out to be the latter scenario, that would be the most stupid and senseless move apple has ever made. Worth to consider switching platforms because no tech company has ever abused customers like that before, treating them like grade school children.

 

[ipedro]

This is incredibly stable. Everything is very polished. I’ll be surprised if it doesn’t end up being the Gold Master.

 

[ipedro]

After updating to iOS 12.2 beta 5 on my iPhone XS Max appeared Apple Pay cash , just can’t active it yet, location United Kingdom

Yes, you’re right. Apple Pay Cash has appeared for me too. I’m in Canada. Here’s hoping for a wider Apple Pay Cash rollout with 12.2.

The setup works up until the point that it requests a US ZIP code. I can get to the next step with a made up ZIP where it then requests a social security number.

 

[PickUrPoison]

You fail to see the mentality that was brought over from compaq. Compaq was not know for innovation, nor letting it's users to easily work on their own computers. John Sculley was more of an innovator and didn't jack up the price on all the products. At least he had a computer at each price point for every user which didn't have the memory soldered on the motherboard. Throwing the Pro badge on a product and jacking up the price is not innovation. So he was the rat that got off the ship first.. good job.

Cook was at Compaq for a grand total of six months. He brought nothing of the Compaq mentality over to Apple. But he did work with Jobs for 13 years before becoming CEO, learning at the hands of the master.