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On friday, I'm going to set my X up as a new phone, and then sign into iCloud. Seems to be the best move, no?
 
If you’re upgrading to iPhone X, I’d wait on this one. Otherwise you need to activate the new phone, upgrade to iOS 11.2 there, and then restore from your backup.
The thought of immediately installing a first [read: buggy] beta onto a brand new $1000+ phone makes me shudder.
 
Remember when mobile phones came with one operating system? The only way to upgrade was to wait for your 2-year contract allowed you to get a "free" phone.
 
Beta or not, the final versions of iOS 11 are still battery killers. The smoothness of iOS 10 is missing. I hope they work out the issues in bringing back the buttery smooth animations.
 
these 11.x updates should really be 11.0.x

give us apple pay in iMessage to make it 11.1, new emojis shouldn't count.

....what is the point of this statement. What a bizarre opinion. In the end, it doesn't matter what .x it is, as long as fixes and features come about.
 
Dude. That's available already.

Tap Accessibility to go into the group of settings made for folks with disabilities. Tap on Reduce Motion, then toggle the feature to ON.

Dude, already did that... doesnt kill animations
 
EverythingApplePro on YouTube has a good video on all of the changes, big and small, in this new beta. It’s worth watching before you install, or after. He seems pretty positive on this update, and he’s been critical of some of the earlier ones so he strikes me as credible.
 
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I share a feedback about that in ios feedback app. Do the same!! it would be great to have messages and maps on iCloud.com

I don't think Apple would be able to maintain the same level of security and encryption they promise if iMessage were accessible via a generic internet browser. But I could be wrong about that, it could be that Apple don't want too many of their services available to competing hardware.
 
....what is the point of this statement. What a bizarre opinion. In the end, it doesn't matter what .x it is, as long as fixes and features come about.
It’s a philosophical/academic opinion. Typically there is criteria for what counts as a major release versus point release versus bug fix release. The opinion of the poster is that those norms are not being adhered to.
 
I have to say having used this new 11.2 beta since it released, my iPhone 7 Plus is SO much smoother. I'm not one to complain unnecessarily about small things, but my phone just hasn't felt as stable and quick in iOS 10. Everything feels better in this update, carplay, switching between apps, responsiveness in general. Hoping that it gets even better with more betas :)
 
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I believe the reason iMessages in the cloud is not released are legal issues. Currently Apple stores nothing. If they start storing in the cloud to facilitate this it would be something courts could order Apple to turn over data because they would have it.

Well that’s no different than all the existing iCloud services, including mail, so I don’t see why that would be an issue.
 
....what is the point of this statement. What a bizarre opinion. In the end, it doesn't matter what .x it is, as long as fixes and features come about.

so it would be ok to call it iOS 19.4.92?

there is a reason the OS is numbered a certain way. With iOS 11 apple seems to be making the 11.x update less important than previous iOS versions. I remember when the .X updates gave us portrait mode, car play, TV app, APFS, apple pay, apple watch support, etc.

Now the .X updates fix calculator bugs and give us new emojis.
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Such an entitled statement.

that doesn't even make sense
 
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so it would be ok to call it iOS 19.4.92?

there is a reason the OS is numbered a certain way. With iOS 11 apple seems to be making the 11.x update less important than previous iOS versions. I remember when the .X updates gave us portrait mode, car play, TV app, APFS, apple pay, apple watch support, etc.

Now the .X updates fix calculator bugs and give us new emojis.

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that doesn't even make sense
They also gave us something like just maps support in Japan and not much more.
 
is there anyone who has been on the developer beta of 11.2 on iphone 7? how's the battery life?
i'm so frustrated with the battery life of 11.1
 
The even bigger perk that I believe most people are waiting for, is that if you do a clean install of your device then iMessages will sync back down like photos/contacts/everything else. Currently, not wanting to lose messages is why I and many others always restore from a backup and never set up as new.
I agree with your comment. That would be the bigger perk of the iMessage synced to iCloud rather than the synchronized availability across all the iOS devices.
 
Would be amazing if they do this. I work in a PC environment at work as a engineer so everything is windows based. I would love to use icloud to text and talk to my friends/family on my pc while im working using my keyboard!
That's exactly how they don't want you to use it. They want to sell Apple products...
 
Let's hope they fix the battery burner they put back in with 11.1. Ever since upgrading to that my battery drains like it did back with the original 11.0.
 
I believe the reason iMessages in the cloud is not released are legal issues. Currently Apple stores nothing. If they start storing in the cloud to facilitate this it would be something courts could order Apple to turn over data because they would have it.
Or the fact it just didn't work. It was a mess in early betas until they flat out removed it.
 
I believe the reason iMessages in the cloud is not released are legal issues. Currently Apple stores nothing. If they start storing in the cloud to facilitate this it would be something courts could order Apple to turn over data because they would have it.

Nah, I mean, how is that any different from Contacts, Calendar, Notes, and iCloud EMAIL that they already do store? Why would Messages considered so much more precious?

Not to mention, Message archives are currently part of the iCloud backup, anyway. Restoring from an iCloud backup brings them back onto a new device. So your logic seems flawed to me.
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Or the fact it just didn't work. It was a mess in early betas until they flat out removed it.

I heard it worked fine; beta testers I know who were using it without any issue were wondering why it was removed. I'm guessing not everyone had the same experience. However "Messages in the Cloud" for proper syncing between devices is different from a "web front-end for Messages in the Cloud, so it can be accessed via PC." I'm doubtful we'll ever see the latter (even though I'd love to see it!)
 
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