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Apple Releases First Public Beta of macOS Mojave to Public Beta Testers
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Agreed, well said.
You’re taking the wrong meaning from that commercial. All it means is that she doesn’t call her computer a computer.
She calls her computer an iPad.
Yes, an iPad is a computer; you just don’t use that word to describe it. The iPhone is also a computer—often the only computer lower income users have—but you don’t call it a computer. You call it an iPhone, or a smartphone. Or maybe just a phone, nowadays.
A desktop is a computer. A laptop is a computer. And a tablet is a computer.
Re: “Macs haven't been updated in a very long time”—that’s simply not true. iMac, MacBook and MacBook Pro were released last June. iMac Pro was released in December. And Mac Pro has price cuts and configuration upgrades in April 2017.
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Isn't it COOL when that happens?
I don't know if it is still that way; but I wouldn't be at all surprised...
It is one of the most magical experiences one can have on Windows. To see their files vanish as if they never existed.
The other one I saw happen was Windows trying to clean 72GB out of my 40 GB hard disk. Needless to say, it wiped itself too, otherwise I would have.
That was by far the most magical moment and the tipping point for me. Just couldn't handle that sort of magic anymore. I built myself a hackintosh the next day and never looked back.
Uh, yes it is. I live in the Southern Mojave. It's blisteringly hot, and largely lifeless, unless you consider half-dead Joshua Trees and Creosote bushes that are a sickenly washed-out shade of dull green to be "life."
[doublepost=1530046132][/doublepost]So far this is a very stable release. I haven't had any apps "break" yet, and even Adobe PS runs smoothly.
It's a non-trivial amount of work to create something like a dark mode on an entire operating system AND also have it not be complete garbage. Developers demanded this and Apple gave it to them. Of course they worked on many other things (take a look at their website) but we're sitting here focused on this and now all of a sudden, yet again, Apple isn't "delivering" on macOS.
HA! thats perfect, and yes i was joking asking that.
Not available to me either when signed into my Beta account or my developer account.
And my Mac Pro clearly has Metal 2 support.
And my Mac Pro clearly has Metal 2 support.
Those configuration updates were hardly “updates”. They aren’t really any newer tech than the original stuff offered in 2013. That said, yes Apple has updated the macs that people actually buy. I think they intended to kill off the Mac Pro and Mac mini until they saw the backlash from the loyal desktop Mac consumers and professionals. We know they are committed to the Mac Pro. No word at all on the mini. My suspicion is they are waiting to release both machines alongside new Apple branded 4K, 5k, and 8k displays. The 8k being exclusively available to the Mac Pro and costing a freaking fortune.
No...it's still a beta....that's the definition of possibly unstable
That's the thing most users will see but it's a tough sell to try to show non-techie users all the under the hood changes.
It seems your MBP also lacks punctuation keys. And seriously, THIS is a priority for you? Not being able to listen to a youtube video on a laptop in stereo output? Why would you have bought two of those when you knew AP2 wasn't available on Mac yet, unless you in fact didn't buy them. And why wouldn't you just watch the same video on an iOS device instead if that cat video just needs to be more vibrant?
Let's stop dancing around the main question...will it make my porn experience more enjoyable?
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firstly, sorry i dont speak exact english and dont judge me on that and yes i love my homepods but it would be nice to use the macbook with stereo homepods instead of built in speakers and i watch a lot of tech videos and like i said airplay 2 should be out for mac
It is what I know because that is what is being reported. I never claimed to be an expert.
Added the developer beta source to the App Store. Planning to try to install Mojave on external SSD. Updates showed a beta, which I downloaded. Accidentally installed 10.13.6 beta (I wasn't paying attention -- freaked me out when it installed on reboot). Now that 10.13.6 is installed, I can't install Mojave, which I'm guessing is because the installer doesn't recognize 10.13.6 as a valid predicate. Any thoughts on a workaround other than a restore? If not, I'll just wait for 10.13.6 to be finalized and try again.
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Jun 26 17:03:12 Christophers-MacBook-Pro osinstallersetupd[1967]: OSISPredicateUpdateProduct: OS Installation Payload: Evaluating products in catalog
Jun 26 17:03:16 Christophers-MacBook-Pro osinstallersetupd[1967]: JS: 10.13.6
Jun 26 17:03:26 Christophers-MacBook-Pro osinstallersetupd[1967]: OSISPredicateUpdateProduct: OS Installation Payload: Finished evaluating products in catalog (1 installable products)
Jun 26 17:03:26 Christophers-MacBook-Pro osinstallersetupd[1967]: OSISPredicateUpdateProduct: OS Installation Payload: No product found
Jun 26 17:03:26 Christophers-MacBook-Pro osinstallersetupd[1967]: Predicate update product fetch failed with error: Error Domain=com.apple.OSInstallerSetup.error Code=303 "Installation of macOS could not continue." UserInfo={NSLocalizedDescription=Installation of macOS could not continue., NSLocalizedRecoverySuggestion=Installation requires downloading important content. That content can't be downloaded at this time. Try again later.}No I'm not. You and others are accusing people who wanted dark mode of giving Apple crap for implementing dark mode.
I'm pointing out that nobody is giving Apple crap for implementing it, they are (rightly or wrongly) giving Apple crap for delivering so little that dark mode is a major feature. It doesn't matter how many non-user-facing improvements there are, it's the people claiming Apple is being attacked for adding the specific feature of dark mode who are wrong.
Personally, I think dark mode is mildly interesting, but stacks is what I'm looking forward to most, so I'm not saying dark mode is the only thing added. I am saying there is laughably little for a major OS release, but I'm also saying this par for the course for Apple the past 5 years and not at all surprising.
He? Can't install this on my 2011 MBP because of metal? Metal is mostly used for games: MB-PRO games, really?
Apple has to stop supporting older macs so people will buy their newer ones that people don’t want....
They update every year so not every update has to be major IMO. This is primarily a stability update, no? What where you looking for that they didn't deliver? Honest question.
The main feature is stability and under the hood improvement. Dark mode is just addition.
As a user I rely on stability and performance more than anything else so I take improvements in MacOS anytime over new features.
Or would you prefer that Apple does the silly nonsense like they do with iOS and gives us animoji and other ********?
I think you said most of what needs to be said with “Apple has updated the macs that people actually buy”.
I don’t think they intended to kill off the Mac Pro; I think they probably intended to skip over Broadwell/Skylake in 2015 and target Kaby Lake for early 2017. But when they sat down in late 2015/early 2016 to figure out what the 2017 release would actually look like, they realized they had a problem: workloads appropriate for dual, medium-powered GPUs had never really materialized. Users wanted one 200W+ GPU instead, and that’s not possible in the cylinder enclosure.
Basically, they blew the call on the future technology roadmap; it happens. Apple already described how some on the team came to that realization sooner, some later, described as a gradual process. They didn’t decide to re-architect/re-envision the Mac Pro until late 2016 or even early 2017.
This is a real product management failure, one rarely seen at Apple. But if you read about how they’re going the design process for the new platform, I think you’d agree that they’re determined to give users what they need in a new Mac Pro.
re: the mini, it’s never sold well, including the quad core into the server space (before it’s cancellation). I think they will rev it, I wish just a spec update to the current form factor using the June 2017 budget iMac as a platform. But apparently they have other plans for it. Or it’s cancelled, but Cook last October implied there would be a future announcement, presumably new models.
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