Seriously I don't know what you want. You want me to say android has access to the file system and iOS doesn't.
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Seriously I don't know what you want. You want me to say android has access to the file system and iOS doesn't.
Hmm, I thought I was quite clear in ALL my posts.
I wanted a simple list of what iOS devices can do that Android devices cannot.
But again, since there are no takers, I'll let it be.
Other than 3dt, FaceTime, live photo, integrated video and rich message system, Apple Pay, no headphone jack(lol), continuity and hand off. AirDrop, find friends integrated in messages, health kit, home kit....sucked into my own complaint.
Other than 3dt, FaceTime, live photo, integrated video and rich message system, Apple Pay, no headphone jack(lol), continuity and hand off. AirDrop, find friends integrated in messages, health kit, home kit....sucked into my own complaint.
LOL, well, thanks for the sacrifice.
Would Facetime, Airdrop, and the Messaging stuff work with my non-Apple friends/family?
I have no need (or equivalent Google services) for everything else, except the headphone jack; I use the hell out of that!
Well I'm not sure why you want to exclude the Apple-to-Apple ecosystem integration because that's a big part of why a lot of people like iPhones, so I'll list a few of those things first...
- You can use iMessage and FaceTime with all of your friends who are using iPhones (which, if you live in the US, is probably the majority of them)
- You get the excellent continuity / hand-off features if you have a Mac, which let you pick up right where you left off in apps like Mail, Messages, Safari, Calendar, Notes, etc. when switching between iPhone and Mac and vice versa
- You can place and receive calls directly from your Mac using the same phone number used by your iPhone
As for other things...
- You can take photos at 2x optical zoom if you have the 7 Plus (some Android phones have a second camera, but none are used for this purpose)
- You can take photos with wide color gamut
- You get accurately displayed colors in all scenarios thanks to the color management built in to iOS. No Android phones have proper color management, so they can only display sRGB content properly and photos and videos with wide color will be compressed to sRGB and displayed incorrectly.
- You will get 4+ years of updates compared to 2 years for even the best supported Android phones. This is especially important now because smartphone technology is plateauing like computers did years ago. Smartphones are already plenty fast and most CPU and camera bumps are barely noticeable in real world usage from year to year now, so I think people may start holding on to phones for longer than the typical 2 years now, just like people hold on to computers for longer periods of time than they used to now.
- It's unfortunate, but there are still many apps that come to iOS first and Android later (or never)
- If you break your phone or have a problem with it, you can probably get it replaced that day by driving to a nearby Apple Store. With any Android phone, the absolute best case scenario is the company overnighting you a new phone, but most are going to take a week or more to get you a replacement or repair.
In the end, though, it all comes down to preference. Some people just like the iPhone experience better than the Android experience. If you really think about it, a $200 Moto G can do most of what an $800 Galaxy or iPhone can do. It's just a question of how well do you want it done?
And to be clear, I'm not trying to argue that an iPhone can do more than an Android phone. A Galaxy Note can surely do more things than an iPhone, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's better. It's just different. iPhones can do some thing Android phones can't do, and Android phones can do a lot of things iPhones can't do, and some they can both do, but one does better, but in the end, you can still have a preference for how one platform does things. No need to label one platform better than the other. They are just different.
Thank you for your well reasoned post!! Finally!!!!
I agree, not one device fits all, so not one device or platform is "better" than another in the absolute sense.
I also agree with people holding on to devices longer: I got a Note5 and have zero envy for the Note7 or iPhone(any), aside from the waterproofing and oooh that sexy, shiny, Darth Vader black.
My 15-year old son swears by his hand-me-down Note3 still, and wishes the newer models hadn't tried to be more iPhone-like.So it seems what I said is true, I can do more with my Android, for how I use a smartphone. I would miss too many features on my Note, were I to switch back to iPhone. And I've already found suitable alternatives to most things on your list. Plus, I operate in several mixed environments, and most of my friends and coworkers have Android devices. I always suffer when I have to help my mother with her iPhone and show her how to do something; I struggle with the unfamiliarity of it all now. I never thought I'd miss a back button so much.
But no question, it's still a tradeoff. I'm so addicted to Mac trackpads and their multi-touch and multi-desktop implementation (NOTHING out there comes remotely close) that the Apple-to-Apple integration would be really nice. And yes, I agree that what Apple does do, they (usually) do it better than anyone, especially customer service.
But they're just too slow to adopt what I wanted, and with every year of Job's passing they move further and further away from my taste. My last iPhone was a 4s. I had size envy for sure. When Apple came out with the 5, I finally lost my patience and tried the Galaxy series and was both surprised and blown away at what I'd been missing. My last Mac was a refurb 2012 MBP I bought in 2015.
Price is not an issue, as the Notes and iPhones are comparable, price-wise, but when given the choice? Control, baby. I want control of my device (which is also why I'm on 2012 and earlier Mac hardware still).
Maybe iPhone 10 and new MBPs will bring me back.
I was simply replying to your statement.
You said "...so I do not need to look forward to updates like iOS users do" which is not a very clever thing to say now is it?.
And you will not get all all security features unless you are on the latest version of Android, which is like 2% of users.
The second part was actually addressed to someone else who said "I wish apple keeps up with the competition more". They are holding on to their OLED dream for dear live.
In my option Hatpic feedback on the iPhone 7 is more innovative than anything Samsung has done. Thats not even talking about the stuff I mentioned in my list. Touch ID and 3D Touch is as innovative as it can get and the SOC is just from another universe.
I give Samsung tons of credits for their water proofing tech tho, pretty sweet.
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I'll edit my statement to say this then: "I do not need to look forward to updates like I used to when using iOS". The reason for that is that I often saw features available for Android that iOS didn't have yet. Once I switched, I am able to do most of what I want to with my device, even things that iOS/Apple can't do yet.
Regarding security, I get security updates regularly on my Note5, so I have no idea whether I'm as secure as I could be. I just use my device concienciously, and monitor my personal info and accounts for signs of trouble, regardless of how secure "anyone" says my system is.
I concede that the SOC, Touch ID and 3D touch is highly innovative and effective, but it's not reason enough for me to give up the other things I can do.
And RAM is also a key issue with Apple devices, since Apple likes to low-end them on that front. I keep my devices longer, so I don't want to run into having to replace my device because it's slow.
So at this point, I see mobile phones as somewhat of a commodity; I can accomplish most tasks on any device easily enough. The choice then comes from aesthetics, hardware, and/or software requirements from the individual.
Thus, I currently prefer Sammy's hardware/software/features combination, but this is not a knock to those who don't.
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New bug... Since this update the phone no longer sends messages to GM infotainment systems (Intellilink, MyLink, CUE etc) when connected via bluetooth. CarPlay works as it should when pluged in but not BT. I have a 15 Silverado and a 16 Yukon and it stopped working on both.
Is this the same haptic feedback that has been freezing up on new iphones...who in their right minds believes haptic feedback is innovative....its been here for a decade....making excuses to make your phone seem more innovative will not make the cut. As far as I'm concerned...Samsung takes the cake with extra frosting when it comes to innovation and at least they build their on hardware.
I've never had the haptic feed back freeze up on my 7 Plus and haven't read anything about it doing so on others.
Then please continue reading the iphone threads because it's surely happening.....here is some assistance in the right direction
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?ur...hare_tid=2001563&share_fid=13661&share_type=t
Haptics stops working?
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Then please continue reading the iphone threads because it's surely happening.....here is some assistance in the right direction
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?ur...hare_tid=2001563&share_fid=13661&share_type=t
Haptics stops working?
There's 12 posts in that thread with less than half from people having the problem (and one of them was using a 6s). 5 people out of millions doesn't indicate a problem with the 7.
That's not the only thread there's several more different ones with same issue..thanks..when yours freeze up you will just keep it quiet so no one knows your horror
Apple sells tens of millions of phones at launch. Since I've been here, there always have been threads about problems and issues after a launch due to this that and the other thing. Doesn't mean anything is widespread; just there are always issue. As evidenced by the competition, no one is immune to such issues.
Thats fine, I am still saying you should not say "I dont need updates as much as iOS users do". Its makes no sense.
With the ram, its because iOS is much more efficient. iOS apps actually stay in memory longer than android apps does. You are falling for Samsungs"more is better" marketing strategy.
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style...Phone-6S-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S7-Edge-Speed-Test
And thats the 6 month older iPhone 6s.
Anyway I agree with you, its all about what you like, and if you prefer Samsung devices all the power to you. Aestheics wise their edge devices are very cool.
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Freezing up new phones? Stop making stuff up.
And yes haptic feedback is super innovative, you should try it out.
List me some samsung innovations apart from the water proofing. I am waiting.
Hmm, I aready ammended my statement regarding updates, so I don't get what doesn't make sense to you. Perhaps this will clarify further: When I used iOS, I couldn't wait for new software version upgrades (like iOS 7 to iOS 8), because there was always a feature or two here and there that was missing that I wished iPhone had. Once I went Sammy (Galaxy S4, Note3, Note5), I had all I needed and wanted.
Regarding RAM, you're the one falling for Apple's "that is all you need" marketing. Yeah, right. It's all you need today. But any long-term Apple iOS device owner will tell you that their devices grind to a crawl with every OS release. Not enough RAM is one of the biggest culprits. I know this first-hand; no need to rely on company spin.
Conversely, my son now uses my Note3 and swears by it. It still rocks and rolls without any (noticeable) lag in real-world use.
As far as Sammy innovations, I think that the Note devices are brilliant; I'm a big fan. The built-in stylus and the touch-wiz implementation are quite innovative, if not polarizing. I swear by them and will not buy another device until someone does it better. It seems they're not afraid to take risks (courage
), even if the haters see it as "throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks".Personally, I'm good with Sammy's risk-taking.
Apple is just too slow in that regard. I'd rather have a feature and have them polish it as they go than to go with nothing until Apple makes it "perfect". I have to wait (for Apple to release) anyhow, so I might as well have what I want in the meantime.
Hmm, I aready ammended my statement regarding updates, so I don't get what doesn't make sense to you. Perhaps this will clarify further: When I used iOS, I couldn't wait for new software version upgrades (like iOS 7 to iOS 8), because there was always a feature or two here and there that was missing that I wished iPhone had. Once I went Sammy (Galaxy S4, Note3, Note5), I had all I needed and wanted.
Regarding RAM, you're the one falling for Apple's "that is all you need" marketing. Yeah, right. It's all you need today. But any long-term Apple iOS device owner will tell you that their devices grind to a crawl with every OS release. Not enough RAM is one of the biggest culprits. I know this first-hand; no need to rely on company spin.
Conversely, my son now uses my Note3 and swears by it. It still rocks and rolls without any (noticeable) lag in real-world use.
As far as Sammy innovations, I think that the Note devices are brilliant; I'm a big fan. The built-in stylus and the touch-wiz implementation are quite innovative, if not polarizing. I swear by them and will not buy another device until someone does it better. It seems they're not afraid to take risks (courage
Personally, I'm good with Sammy's risk-taking.
Apple is just too slow in that regard. I'd rather have a feature and have them polish it as they go than to go with nothing until Apple makes it "perfect". I have to wait (for Apple to release) anyhow, so I might as well have what I want in the meantime.
Once I went Sammy (Galaxy S4, Note3, Note5), I had all I needed and wanted.
It still makes no sense but whatever.
Regarding RAM, you're the one falling for Apple's "that is all you need" marketing. Yeah, right. It's all you need today. But any long-term Apple iOS device owner will tell you that their devices grind to a crawl with every OS release. Not enough RAM is one of the biggest culprits. I know this first-hand; no need to rely on company spin.
Is that why a 6s runs circles around a s7, including having apps in memory much longer?
As far as Sammy innovations, I think that the Note devices are brilliant; I'm a big fan. The built-in stylus and the touch-wiz implementation are quite innovative
TouchWiz? Really?
Id rather have the feature perfectly implemented because you know it's supported and will be there for the future. Like how Touch ID totally raised the bar on fp readers. The remainder of the post is hyperbole - what with the ad-Homs.Hmm, I aready ammended my statement regarding updates, so I don't get what doesn't make sense to you. Perhaps this will clarify further: When I used iOS, I couldn't wait for new software version upgrades (like iOS 7 to iOS 8), because there was always a feature or two here and there that was missing that I wished iPhone had. Once I went Sammy (Galaxy S4, Note3, Note5), I had all I needed and wanted.
Regarding RAM, you're the one falling for Apple's "that is all you need" marketing. Yeah, right. It's all you need today. But any long-term Apple iOS device owner will tell you that their devices grind to a crawl with every OS release. Not enough RAM is one of the biggest culprits. I know this first-hand; no need to rely on company spin.
Conversely, my son now uses my Note3 and swears by it. It still rocks and rolls without any (noticeable) lag in real-world use.
As far as Sammy innovations, I think that the Note devices are brilliant; I'm a big fan. The built-in stylus and the touch-wiz implementation are quite innovative, if not polarizing. I swear by them and will not buy another device until someone does it better. It seems they're not afraid to take risks (courage
Personally, I'm good with Sammy's risk-taking.
Apple is just too slow in that regard. I'd rather have a feature and have them polish it as they go than to go with nothing until Apple makes it "perfect". I have to wait (for Apple to release) anyhow, so I might as well have what I want in the meantime.
1. It's ok if you just don't get it. But that's not because it doesn't make sense. I wanted things Apple didn't provide, that I both needed and wanted. Simple. Apple devices don't do it all.
2. My argument was related to how Apple purposefully cripples their devices so you're "forced" to upgrade. I was comparing Apple to Apple. And pointing out how a relatively old Note 3 performs today, versus a comparable Apple device. Your argument goes the straw-man route.
3. Yes, Touchwiz. I like it. For starters it was one of, if not the first to have split-screen multitasking, well before Google made it an official part of Android as well as Apple putting it into their devices. My Galaxy S4 had it.
Look, if you like iOS and Apple devices that's fine, but I think it's silly to dismiss outright the things that the competition does better.
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I love how some Apple fans overreact...
OK, I don't know what "perfectly implemented" feature you refer to. Please be specific.
And what about my post is hyperbole, exactly? Again, be specific.
Yes, Touch ID is probably the best FP reader out there.
And it means nothing to me.
I'd rather have the other things Apple doesn't give me and Sammy does. Simple.
If yours is the other way 'round, then hey, good for you.
So ad-homs and generalizations are not over-reacting? Gotcha.
People's needs and wants are different and you should get and use the phone that works for you.So ad-homs and generalizations are not over-reacting? Gotcha.
You complain about ad-homs and hyperbole, yet you're still not being specific about what that was. I see that as an overreaction.
But ok, let's set that argument aside, it'll go nowhere.
I agree with your last statement, and for the record, I wish Apple would give me what Sammy does so I could get more seamless integration with my Macs.
I merely lament that they trickle out features at a snail's pace and keep trying to lock you in further and further with proprietary hardware and features.
You can view the post I quoted.
They have a closed ecosystem to ensure seamless integration. If you view that as lockdown Apple may Not be right for you. And IMO, they release features and hardware at a snails pace to avoid a note 7 like catastrophe.
1. Again, letting go.
2. A fully closed ecosystem is not required for seamless integration. Not buying that. The problem is that this is the direction Apple seems to be heading to (closed ecosystem, that is). So, they are increasingly "not right for me", which is why I don't use iOS anymore.
3. "...they release features and hardware at a snails pace to avoid a note 7-like catastrophe" has become THE excuse for everything Apple does nowadays. Or rather, for what they don't do.
Even if we ignore all other reasons why this is unlikely, it is only one of two possibilities. The other being what I find to be more likely: "so you continue to buy future Apple products".
Yep, the next one will have the feature you want. Maybe. No? Well, the next one... This is my 15-year Apple relationship, in a nutshell. A yearly-upgrade path.
No more. I'm done.
Samsung's recent debacle is not related to features per se, it's related to hardware manufacturing/engineering. And Apple is not immune to these, as their latest "touch-disease" issue can attest. No company is.
So we can redirect the argument back to "features": Apple has been too slow to give me what I want in a mobile device.
Samsung has been quicker, and still does do that. It's when they try to copy Apple that they fail. For instance, the Galaxy Note 4 was pretty much perfect (for me), almost 2 years ago. See this review for the reasons (aka features) why I like it:
https://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-galaxy-note-4/
I'd still by a Note4 over an iPhone (and a Note5) today, just for these features missing from my Note5: IR blaster, removable battery, waterproofing, and SD-card slot. I don't need metal; plastic is lighter, more impact resistant, and gives better reception than metal. No case necessary either.
Sadly, my company only gave me a choice between a Note5 (the 7 wasn't out and they would not get me the 4) and a 6S+.
Your certainly welcome to your opinions. And it does seem to be the opinion after the note 7 debacle that slow and steady wins the race. and you may not like apples direction and ecosystem and pace of innovation; i happen to like it and the direction they are going.