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Apple Releases iOS 10.0.2 With Fixes for Headphone, Photos, and App Extension Bugs

I'm having far more problems with my iPhone 7 after this update, than before it. Get your **** together Apple.

I had the headphone problem prior to this update, where I would lose the ability to use the audio controls on the earbuds. But after the update I'm having a problem where the audio cuts out on the headphones, and when I resume it playing, it goes back to the phone speaker, instead of the headphones. Really stupid.
 
EarPods have been timing out after a short period of time when listening to music, rendering the remote unresponsive and unable to control volume, access Siri, and answer phone calls.
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And that is why nobody wants wireless headphones. The same reason I don't want automatic toilet flushes, or automatic soap dispensers. Some things are manual for a reason, because people just want them to work without "timing out."
 
spinedoc77 said:
Any fix for the "no coverage" complete reception drop outs I get several times per day? It's possible this needs to come from the carrier, but I'm surprised no one has addressed this other than on Tmobile.
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Limited testing, but mine appears to be better than it was before the update. Verizon.
 
Got the first Springboard crash I've seen on my 7 Plus today under iOS 10.0.2.

Haven't seen a Springboard crash in nearly a year.
 
crashoverride77 said:
In your world there is clearly no such thing as bug fixes, security updates and under the hood improvements.
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With things such as

1) Having the best SOC by far. I mean its not even close, even the 6s is better than the 50 core snapdragons.
2) 3D Touch?
3) Touch ID?
4) One of, if not the most accurate display displayMate ever tested?
5) Camera?

OLED display response in 3, 2, 1
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Don't know what you mean with the bug fixes comment. I get plenty on my Note5. Now, that said...

1) Agreed. Apple's SOC is fantastic. That said, I don't care about benchmarks. My Note5 is a fast, responsive device for what I use it.

2) Don't care, don't miss it. Convenient, but not a reason to switch.

3) Agreed, Apple did it first (and probably better). While I have touch ID on my Note, I don't use it. I find the pattern unlock option quick and easy though

4) Samsung displays have been known to be excellent for years. I really don't see the iPhone's as better in daily use. Again, IDC about benchmarks

5) Another item Sammy has done well in their devices. The Note5's camera is fantastic.

So again, my point was and still is that Apple has failed to deliver meaningful features (for me) that trump the ones Android (I mean Sammy in this case) provides today, and has for years.

So, to this day I see no reason to switch. I'd lose far more than I'd gain.
 
ECUTuner said:
Fancy App-switching? Another lie. iOS can multitask more than one App at a time where Apps in the background continue to run and are not paused. Do you even use iOS? How could you not be aware of this? And how could you not be aware of all the things iOS did before Android? You claim you like to discuss technology, but the fact you can't even think of a single thing iOS did first tells me otherwise.

A few things iOS/iPhone did first (ones with an * aren't even available on Android yet).

* Hardware on device encryption (back in 2009 with the iPhone 3GS). Android still using inferior software based encryption.
* NVMe for storage. Android phones still using UFS or eMMC, two vastly inferior technologies.
- 64bit processor. Not just a 64bit mobile processor, but a custom designed one. Took Samsung and Qualcomm almost 2 years to catch up with their own "custom" processors.
- BT 4.0 in the iPhone 4, the first mobile device on the planet that implemented it. This is what caused aftermarket accessory makers to start using it now that they have a mass produced device they could connect to.
- A proper permissions system. Even though Android finally added this, iOS is still superior. For example, in iOS I can have a permission as Yes, No or While Using. The While Using is a great addition which allows me to grant permission to something only while I'm actually in the App (like GPS, which won't let the App use it once I switch to another App).
- Activation Lock. Still superior to the Android version, which came out after. It's the single biggest reason smartphone thefts have dropped as it makes a stolen iPhone useless to a thief.
- MIDI support. Since iOS 4 and only added to Android 5 years later in Marshmallow.
* 3D Touch (pressure sensing screen). I mean a screen that can sense and measure pressure, not the stupid "fake" versions that measured the size of you finger to guess pressure or has sensors behind the screen to measure total on screen pressure).
* Low Latency Audio. Another one for musicians. iOS could do this back in iOS 4 while even brand-new Android flagships can still struggle to pass audio from App to App without incurring latency (which is unacceptable when recording).

These are just a couple quick ones I could come up with.
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First off, I stated a few posts back that I don't use iOS. Please keep up.

Second, no one's lying. From the horse's mouth:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202070

The title: "About Multitasking on your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch". Apple goes on to describe it on iPhone, literally "Switch between apps" and the function's name is "app switcher", mmkay?

Like I stated, "fancy app switching" is not that far off is it?

Or from another news source:

http://www.inquisitr.com/3449755/io...st-the-other-galaxy-7-vs-iphone-7-comparison/

Where they go on to state: "iPhone 7’s do not currently possess any form of multi-tasking..." and "
Apple introduced multi-tasking to its iPad Pro models this year, but iPad Pros on iOS 10 aren’t necessarily as powerful at multitasking as their Droid counterparts".

Regardless of what you believe, you still cannot do Split-screen multi-tasking on iPhone, which is exactly what I quantified as multi-tasking previously (and apparently everyone else but you).

This is something I've been able to do on my Android-powered Sammy since my Galaxy S4...

Everything else on your list, while factual, is nothing I will miss, for the way I use my phone. So, as I stated, these arent "meaningful" firsts for my use case.

So to sum this all up, there's nothing (Apple "firsts" included) that iPhone has that'll make me switch, and there is too much that Android is already doing (that Apple isn't) for me to give up in order to go the iPhone route.

Thus, I've been having more than "good luck" (as Zirel originally stated) by using my "robot".
 
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Two annoyances that were eventually 'fixed' in iOS 9: the batery 'Time Since Last Charge' indicatior would show up blank if you'd switched your device off since the last charge. Also clearing history and website data in Safari would turn off private browsing when you next opened Safari. Now with the new iOS 10, these annoying behaviours are back!
 
jedy said:
Two annoyances that were eventually 'fixed' in iOS 9: the batery 'Time Since Last Charge' indicatior would show up blank if you'd switched your device off since the last charge. Also clearing history and website data in Safari would turn off private browsing when you next opened Safari. Now with the new iOS 10, these annoying behaviours are back!
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The first problem is back in iOS 10. Turning device off and on clears the usage time.
 
frifra said:
This! Thank you! I'd give you 10 more likes if I could. Actually a fair comparison who was first with what feature between Android/iOS would be really interesting. Would be great if MacRumors would write such an article.
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That would be an interesting article.

That said, it really misses the point of my posts.

I've been providing reasons why I choose not to use iOS, and perhaps why some other folk do the same.

I'm not concerned with how amazing the tech inside my (or any) device is; My focus is on what I can do with it.

Thus, my question is really simple, and yet despite all the pointless arguing that has gone around it still remains unanswered:

What exactly can you do with iPhone that you cannot with Android (besides force-touch and the admittedly outstanding Apple-to-Apple ecosystem integration)?

Perhaps you (or anyone) would be willing to answer it, while leaving out any fanboy rhetoric?

I want a LIST to compare against.
 
melendezest said:
That would be an interesting article.

That said, it really misses the point of my posts.

I've been providing reasons why I choose not to use iOS, and perhaps why some other folk do the same.

I'm not concerned with how amazing the tech inside my (or any) device is; My focus is on what I can do with it.

Thus, my question is really simple, and yet despite all the pointless arguing that has gone around it still remains unanswered:

What exactly can you do with iPhone that you cannot with Android (besides force-touch and the admittedly outstanding Apple-to-Apple ecosystem integration)?

Perhaps you (or anyone) would be willing to answer it, while leaving out any fanboy rhetoric?

I want a LIST to compare against.
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It's not a simple question, it's an loaded question that is designed for a flame-war. And this has gone round the horn on many, many threads.

- check Facebook yes
- answer emails yes
- post in macrumors yes

The question ignores one of style, reliability, service and support. So while both an Hyundai Elantra and an M135 do the same things and are the same size the style and execution is different...and so it goes essentially between the two platforms.
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melendezest said:
First off, I stated a few posts back that I don't use iOS. Please keep up.

Second, no one's lying. From the horse's mouth:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202070

The title: "About Multitasking on your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch". Apple goes on to describe it on iPhone, literally "Switch between apps" and the function's name is "app switcher", mmkay?

Like I stated, "fancy app switching" is not that far off is it?

Or from another news source:

http://www.inquisitr.com/3449755/io...st-the-other-galaxy-7-vs-iphone-7-comparison/

Where they go on to state: "iPhone 7’s do not currently possess any form of multi-tasking..." and "
Apple introduced multi-tasking to its iPad Pro models this year, but iPad Pros on iOS 10 aren’t necessarily as powerful at multitasking as their Droid counterparts".

Regardless of what you believe, you still cannot do Split-screen multi-tasking on iPhone, which is exactly what I quantified as multi-tasking previously (and apparently everyone else but you).

This is something I've been able to do on my Android-powered Sammy since my Galaxy S4...

Everything else on your list, while factual, is nothing I will miss, for the way I use my phone. So, as I stated, these arent "meaningful" firsts for my use case.

So to sum this all up, there's nothing (Apple "firsts" included) that iPhone has that'll make me switch, and there is too much that Android is already doing (that Apple isn't) for me to give up in order to go the iPhone route.

Thus, I've been having more than "good luck" (as Zirel originally stated) by using my "robot".
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Just wondering if you even read the links you posted?
 
I7guy said:
It's not a simple question, it's an loaded question that is designed for a flame-war. And this has gone round the horn on many, many threads.

- check Facebook yes
- answer emails yes
- post in macrumors yes

The question ignores one of style, reliability, service and support. So while both an Hyundai Elantra and an M135 do the same things and are the same size the style and execution is different...and so it goes essentially between the two platforms.
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See, that is the problem here. Everyone expects negativity, and dismiss rationale because they cannot see past their own narrow views.

Does it have to be a loaded question? It's only that way if we make it so.

So how about we skip the flaming, and just comparison-shop?

Style, service, reliability, and support would be valid entries on such a list in my book, despite some subjectivity.

Again, I'm looking for information, and to understand why someone would choose one platform over another.

This much is clear so far: Android and iOS users value different things in their devices.

I made the assertion that I can do more on my Android than I could on iOS, only to be heavily flamed, insulted, etc... without an answer to the question.

So if I made an incorrect statement, I want someone to provide facts to show what I've missed (since facts are free from passion and I NEVER claim to be infallible).

Yet here I am, still waiting for an answer.
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I7guy said:
It's not a simple question, it's an loaded question that is designed for a flame-war. And this has gone round the horn on many, many threads.

- check Facebook yes
- answer emails yes
- post in macrumors yes

The question ignores one of style, reliability, service and support. So while both an Hyundai Elantra and an M135 do the same things and are the same size the style and execution is different...and so it goes essentially between the two platforms.
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Just wondering if you even read the links you posted?
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Yes. Did you read how my post refers to the link?
 
melendezest said:
See, that is the problem here. Everyone expects negativity, and dismiss rationale because they cannot see past their own narrow views.

Does it have to be a loaded question? It's only that way if we make it so.

So how about we skip the flaming, and just comparison-shop?

Style, service, reliability, and support would be valid entries on such a list in my book, despite some subjectivity.

Again, I'm looking for information, and to understand why someone would choose one platform over another.

This much is clear so far: Android and iOS users value different things in their devices.

I made the assertion that I can do more on my Android than I could on iOS, only to be heavily flamed, insulted, etc... without an answer to the question.

So if I made an incorrect statement, I want someone to provide facts to show what I've missed (since facts are free from passion and I NEVER claim to be infallible).

Yet here I am, still waiting for an answer.
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Yes. Did you read how my post refers to the link?
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Why is this even being discussed in a topic related to 10.0.2? It belongs in the alternatives forum and not in this thread.
 
Morac said:
The first problem is back in iOS 10. Turning device off and on clears the usage time.
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That is not a problem with IOS 10, it's been always like that, no matter what IOS.
[doublepost=1475251483][/doublepost]I just don't get it. Went through all 9 pages and no one is mentioning a moronic move from Apple to remove the delete all button in mail inbox.....unbelievable :mad:
 
I7guy said:
Why is this even being discussed in a topic related to 10.0.2? It belongs in the alternatives forum and not in this thread.
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Does it matter? If you must know...

I came into it when Zirel brought android into it:

"Now what the haters have to say? Good luck with your Android now!"

and when ECUTuner went on to say: "Lies...", which I took as an implication that Android users are liars.

Then you wanted to give ECUTuner "10 more likes" to a post in which he implies I'm lying (again, apparently) about multitasking (the first of your posts I replied to ), so here we are.

Since it doesn't really matter where we discuss things, and you seemed willing to go this far, how 'bout that list?
 
bbrks said:
That is not a problem with IOS 10, it's been always like that, no matter what IOS.
[doublepost=1475251483][/doublepost]I just don't get it. Went through all 9 pages and no one is mentioning a moronic move from Apple to remove the delete all button in mail inbox.....unbelievable :mad:
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iOS 9 never did this. If I turned my device off and on, the usage and standby times would still be there. In iOS 10 they change to dashes. The only time it did that in iOS 9 was if the Springboard crashed.
 
Morac said:
iOS 9 never did this. If I turned my device off and on, the usage and standby times would still be there. In iOS 10 they change to dashes. The only time it did that in iOS 9 was if the Springboard crashed.
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Sorry, than obviously we haven't used the same iPhones :)
 
melendezest said:
Does it matter? If you must know...

I came into it when Zirel brought android into it:

"Now what the haters have to say? Good luck with your Android now!"

and when ECUTuner went on to say: "Lies...", which I took as an implication that Android users are liars.

Then you wanted to give ECUTuner "10 more likes" to a post in which he implies I'm lying (again, apparently) about multitasking (the first of your posts I replied to ), so here we are.

Since it doesn't really matter where we discuss things, and you seemed willing to go this far, how 'bout that list?
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Okay I'll start- check Facebook.
 
I'm getting a semi-reproducible Springboard crash in iOS 10.0.2. It happens when I press the home button to close an app and then immediately swipe down to try and display the Notification Center.

It doesn't happen all the time, but I had it happen twice today.
 
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