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Public/Dev beta test is almost like yesteryear's alpha status. We are all in beta. Learn to accept it no matter what company it is.
 
Well I have two words also: Poor Quality

Call them security updates, call them bug fixes, call them abortions during Halloween, I don't care what you call them or how you try to spin this. They ALL fall into the category of software defects, defects where some Apple software engineer made a coding mistake, a product manager incorrectly specified some functionality, or maybe some omission from Apple ... they are all "bugs", and I return to my previous statement.

Five updated versions of IOS 10 (bug fixes, security fixes, change the color of a happy face, etc.) in less than seven weeks since the release of IOS 10 is pathetic and should never be tolerated.
The alternative of not addressing issues for months is then the better way to go about things somehow?
 
Interesting info. No OTA showing up on iP6s with dev profile installed. However iTunes shows an update and the readme was basically 10.1 with a little different heading (nothing mentioned about health data). Apparently they didnt quite get the readme up to date fully.

iOS 10.1.1

This update includes Portrait Camera for iPhone 7 Plus (beta), transit directions for Japan, stability improvements and bug fixes.

iOS 10.1.1 introduces new features and improvements including:

Camera and Photos (and the rest of iOS 10.1 list)
.........
 
Five updated versions of IOS 10 in less than seven weeks since the release of IOS 10 ... that is pathetic.

& we ain't seen nothin yet. Gunna need all your fingers & toes to count the fixes before iOS 11 drops.... Then we do it all over again. No wonder they're building data centers as fast as they can throughout the world. Need them all just to supply the bandwidth for iOS updates.
 
The alternative of not addressing issues for months is then the better way to go about things somehow?

Of course not, that is stupid.

The better way to go about this is for Apple to do a BETTER JOB testing/debugging IOS before they release it to the public. That is the point!
 
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Of course not, that is stupid.

The better way to go about this is for Apple to do a BETTER JOB testing/debugging IOS before they release it to the public. That is the point!
Ah, yes, imaginary utopia is certainly pretty much always the better way.
 
Cooks new Apple... such a p*** poor coding and quality control team that you get bug fixes weekly now...

Apple is WORST then Android!!
Not doing anything about bugs for months, or perhaps even essentially ever (as plenty of other non-Apple devices don't even get any updates or more than one here or there perhaps) certainly seems like a better way of going about things.
 
Had and saw this when I tried to update via iTunes instead of OTA.

Is this on iOS 10? Had my iPhone unlocked and this popped up.

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I'm right there with you. iPhones have always had a tendency for occasionally flakiness on my car (been using BT for phone and audio streaming for years now) but they weren't that often (would retain phone connection but lose audio streaming, playback would all of a sudden be choppy yet have speed bursts). Since 10.1, it's been these scenarios x1000. Every time in the car I'd have issues, have had to delete/repair 3 times in last 3 days.

My iPhone 7 and iPod Touch won't play via USB, you have to set it to play, then unplug it, plug it back in and then it plays ALL since iOS 10... this is with Fords Sync version one on the latest software, Apple have a habit though of breaking car system connections, they don't even use all the official Bluetooth stacks.
 
Ah, yes, imaginary utopia is certainly pretty much always the better way.

I am not talking about utopia so don't twist my meaning or put words in my mouth. I said over and over I acknowledge that software from all companies will/does contain defects. I don't expect Utopia from Apple or any company. My complaint relates to a matter of degree, a degree of quality, plain and simple.

Five separate IOS software versions in less than seven weeks since IOS 10 launch is unacceptable and can be attributed specifically to lower quality standards (e.g., software testing) at Apple.
 
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Not doing anything about bugs for months, or perhaps even essentially ever (as plenty of other non-Apple devices don't even get any updates or more than one here or there perhaps) certainly seems like a better way of going about things.

Wrong! They have no excuse for creating the bugs in the first place in the ONLY THING APPLE MAKES ITSELF!! And then it designs all the flipping hardware it runs on!!

This is no OEM third party stuff, this is ALL Apples kit and it doesn't work. iOS has become a bit of a joke with regards to patches and bug fixes.. their will be another one in a couple of weeks probably and people will still defend this joke.
 
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I am not talking about utopia so don't twist my meaning or put words in my mouth. I said over and over I acknowledge that software from all companies will/does contain defects. I don't expect Utopia from Apple or any company. My complaint relates to a matter of degree, a degree of quality, plain and simple.

Five separate IOS software versions in less than seven weeks since IOS 10 launch is unacceptable and can be attributed specifically to lower quality standards (e.g., software testing) at Apple.

Wrong! They have no excuse for creating the bugs in the first place in the ONLY THING APPLE MAKES ITSELF!! And then it designs all the flipping hardware it runs on!!

This is no OEM third party stuff, this is ALL Apples kit and it doesn't work. iOS has become a bit of a joke with regards to patches and bug fixes.. their will be another one in a couple of weeks probably and people will still defend this joke.
"unacceptable", "joke"...because updates come out to deal with issues...right.
 
The past two updates have been a pain in the ass for me. I have ****** Wifi at work so i plug in to my desktop and try to update though iTunes. Both times itunes tells me to unlock phone to continue and i look down and the phone is saying "Press home to recover" and now it's sitting here forever "Attempting data recovery"

Is this right? What is going on? I don't know which method of updating to trust now, OTA or iTunes!
 
Issues created solely by Apple in the first place... because they lack proper testing, quality control and decent coders. They seem to also ignore their beta testers judging by what they say on this site..
And there would still be issues nonetheless.
 
Even though you said earlier that IOS 10 was the initial release on the iPhone 7, go ahead and count 10 (10.0.1) as the public release ... there still have been FIVE SEPERATE versions of the IOS operating system since it's release to the public on September 16, 2016 ... those five IOS versions are separately numbered as 10 (10.0.1), 10.0.2, 10.0.3, 10.1, 10.1.1 ... add them up or if it's easier, I suggest you count them on your fingers if that helps ... FIVE separate version numbers of IOS.

So that is FIVE separate versions of IOS software released to the public over LESS than a SEVEN week period.

Not sure how many times I need to say it. and will be the LAST time I do. 10.0.1 was PUBLIC release. No one UPDATED to 10.0. It was NEVER released.
 
Actually it does not appear to include any new security fixes according to Apple:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207287

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
Yes it does, it just hasn't been updated.

I know it says it includes the security content of iOS 10.1, but 60MB update size is too large for only the health app.
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Of course not, that is stupid.

The better way to go about this is for Apple to do a BETTER JOB testing/debugging IOS before they release it to the public. That is the point!

Alpha testing can only go so far. Thats my point. There are hundreds of millions of more users than 5 years ago, since Jobs was last involved with iOS. The only way to get feedback on all the bugs are through public users using the software. Millions of more eyes to find broken things.
 
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
Yes it does, it just hasn't been updated.

I know it says it includes the security content of iOS 10.1, but 60MB update size is too large for only the health app.
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Alpha testing can only go so far. Thats my point. There are hundreds of millions of more users than 5 years ago, since Jobs was last involved with iOS. The only way to get feedback on all the bugs are through public users using the software. Millions of more eyes to find broken things.
so we should either get paid or a cheaper phone. lol
 
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