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Apple has also promised that new, more extensive details about battery life will be coming in early 2018, but those new tools are also missing from iOS 11.2.5, so we may instead see them in the next iOS update.

so you have to buy next years I phone to get these total B.S. Apple
 
There's a chance that the out-of-order messages bug is related to tests of iCloud Messages. It could be that they're testing iCloud Messages for a subset of users. For these users, they could be pushing messages to the cloud for each individual device, and then reading them back from the cloud (but still not syncing the messages across devices). If there was a bug in that logic, we would expect it to affect both iOS and macOS.

The bug only affected some users on some devices. For me, it affected my iPad, but not either of my macs nor my iPhone. A friend of mine had it on his iPhone, but no other device. Another friend only had it on his Mac. So it could be that one of each of our devices was in the test group.

With their continued work on iCloud Messages, this seems like a reasonable explanation for the bug, although it could be entirely unrelated :)
 
"Apple said a software update coming later this year will enable users with more than one HomePod to play music throughout their homes with multi-room audio via its AirPlay 2 protocol. And if there's more than one HomePod placed in the same room, the speakers will be able to detect each other and deliver stereo sound."

Why announce something at the keynote.. for it to not be released in iOS 11.0?? Hell even, 11.1 would have been acceptable, but at this point it might as well be released with iOS 12. Apple really has changed as a company. They used to so on top of everything... now they're a bunch of turtles.
 
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Apparently, I must be the only one whose BT headset (Plantronics Legend) regularly (as in more often than not) disconnects from my iPhone when a call is answered, or during a call or any time it feels like it.

Actually, I know I'm not the only one because my friend with many different BT headsets has the same problem with all of them.

It's beyond frustrating to place a call with the BT headset working and when the call is answered on the other end, the iPhone switches to the earpiece in the phone, all the while I'm repeating like a parrot "hello?".

I guess this will never get fixed.
I have a Plantronics Voyager Edge, on an iPhone SE running iOS 10.2. I have this issue from time-to-time. I never bothered to upgrade beyond 10.2 because the Bluetooth experience has just gotten so bad, and I knew through testing it got worse in 11. I've filed multiple bugs against Bluetooth headset issues with Apple, even to the point of "pulling rank" by trying to go at them from an Accessibility perspective (I am deaf in one ear and have significant-enough hearing loss in the other to require a headset to speak on the phone but not require a hearing aid) and cross-filing with AppleCare; Apple has been absolutely abysmal at dealing with the issues. I have not had a "trouble-free" Bluetooth experience on iOS (BT stack resets, headset disconnect/reconnect, proper audio routing) since… well… I can't even tell you… it has been a long time and I had an original iPhone (and a 3GS, 4, 4S, 5s since). Before then, I had several Sony phones and used Bluetooth headsets with them, completely 100% trouble free. iOS has been just crap, and Apple's responsiveness more so.

The only word of advice I can give, if you haven't done so already (and if you can with your Plantronics model), is to use the Hub app to disable A2DP in the headset. There are downsides to this, but it has, overall, made my experience better.
 
Saw a performance hit based on Geekbench 4 on my iPad Air 2. It was weird that the multi core dropped so significantly; like it is only using 2 of the 3 cores.

Before the update my Geekbench scores were:
Single Core -1824
Multi Core - 4397

After update (ran twice):
Single Core - 1734 - 1762
Multi Core - 2944 - 2965
 
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This update isn't nearly as smooth performance wise on my X as the previous betas. Hoping for 11.3 soon.

My X is very smooth, but there is one jarring issue. When I swipe down for spotlight search (which is how I open my apps), if I hit cancel, it's just a sudden jump back to the home screen. No smooth animation like it was in 11.2.2. Oh well. Everything else is buttery smooth.
 
Thought this was the same as beta 7 11.2.5 or had you not installed 11.2.5 in beta?

I installed every beta of 10.2.5, only had a problem with beta 5 on my iPad, the rest were great on my X. It's not terrible by any means, but just a few weird hiccups here and there.
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My X is very smooth, but there is one jarring issue. When I swipe down for spotlight search (which is how I open my apps), if I hit cancel, it's just a sudden jump back to the home screen. No smooth animation like it was in 11.2.2. Oh well. Everything else is buttery smooth.

It's not super noticeable on my end, just a little janky in some spots.
 
Is the clicky sound/vibration gone when closing Control Center?
 
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Does this fix #Throttlegate ?

I saw a performance hit based on Geekbench 4 on my iPad Air 2. It was weird that the multi core dropped so significantly; like it is only using 2 of the 3 cores. I have not installed on my iPhone 8 plus to see the impact.

Before the update my Geekbench scores were:
Single Core -1824
Multi Core - 4397

After update (ran twice):
Single Core - 1734 - 1762
Multi Core - 2944 - 2965
 
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Apple has also promised that new, more extensive details about battery life will be coming in early 2018, but those new tools are also missing from iOS 11.2.5, so we may instead see them in the next iOS update.

so you have to buy next years I phone to get these total B.S. Apple

So how did your first statement lead to the second? Am I missing something?
 
people might not care about this but it grinds my gears that they skipped versions

they have NEVER done this

They've done it plenty of times in the past and I think they were leaving themselves room for 11.2.3 and 11.2.4 to be emergency security fixes for the likes of meltdown and spectre if required with 11.2.5 always being the scheduled release with the other fixes and home pod support.
 
So how did your first statement lead to the second? Am I missing something?
Meaning you will have to wait for IOS 12 and new ios always a release of a new phone.
Meaning you wont see these features till then.
 
What ever happened to 11.2.3 or 11.2.4?

Agreed. Odd and off-putting. What's important is that they have fixed some issues, sure, but it's nonsensical to skip from a .x.2 version to a .x.5 version. I wonder why, hmmm.

Maybe it's the updates that will be out of order now — after 11.2.5 will come 11.2.3 just to mess with people.
They likely had what they planned for iOS 11.2.5 ready for a little while and wanted to go through the beta process, but also had a feeling that there might be some other things that could come up (like security issues) that would need updates sooner, so they left a few bug fix version numbers available for those (and used up at least one of those).

11.2.5 iPhone 6s is only 163MB???
Is that an issue of some sort?

Apple has also promised that new, more extensive details about battery life will be coming in early 2018, but those new tools are also missing from iOS 11.2.5, so we may instead see them in the next iOS update.

so you have to buy next years I phone to get these total B.S. Apple
Meaning you will have to wait for IOS 12 and new ios always a release of a new phone.
Meaning you wont see these features till then.
Early 2018 still has a few months in it. It was pretty much known that those changes wouldn't be in iOS 11.2.5 as that was already in beta before the last year ended. And Tim Cook already added more information recently mentioning that the next bigger iOS 11 update (likely iOS 11.3) will be the one that will have those changes.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...le-to-be-turned-off-in-future-update.2101564/

"Apple said a software update coming later this year will enable users with more than one HomePod to play music throughout their homes with multi-room audio via its AirPlay 2 protocol. And if there's more than one HomePod placed in the same room, the speakers will be able to detect each other and deliver stereo sound."

Why announce something at the keynote.. for it to not be released in iOS 11.0?? Hell even, 11.1 would have been acceptable, but at this point it might as well be released with iOS 12. Apple really has changed as a company. They used to so on top of everything... now they're a bunch of turtles.
It can still come with some upcoming iOS 11 update and still be in iOS 11 basically. Or it might not. Things get announced based on what the plans are at the time, but if something unforeseen comes up then things can get changed at times. It's not good or anything, but it's hardly unusual or anything like that, just basic reality in play.
 
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Longtime reader, new poster here. Just wanted to say I took the jump with the new update, more so out of obligation. I finally updated my perfectly working iPhone 7 last night to the iOS 11.2.2. What a nightmare. It started rebooting/restarting every few minutes, especially if it was not in use, and I picked it up to go to the home screen. Didn’t know how to fix this after a thorough search online for ideas. But this morning, there was a magical new 11.2.5 update. And it’s fixed the problem and runs great again. It also fixed the battery drain problem that 11.2.2 was giving me. I hope this helps anyone reluctant to try it.
 
I saw a performance hit based on Geekbench 4 on my iPad Air 2. It was weird that the multi core dropped so significantly; like it is only using 2 of the 3 cores. I have not installed on my iPhone 8 plus to see the impact.

Before the update my Geekbench scores were:
Single Core -1824
Multi Core - 4397

After update (ran twice):
Single Core - 1734 - 1762
Multi Core - 2944 - 2965

This is not good at all I'll say pass...
 
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