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Apple Releases iOS 11.2 With Apple Pay Cash, Faster 7.5W Wireless Charging, Date Bug Fix and More [Updated]

bobob said:
You can completely disable it in Settings if you 'wanna'.

Personally, I like the quick access in Control Center to a temporary disable option. I have accidentally (idiotically?) left Wi-Fi turned off, because of a limited Wi-Fi network blocking internet access, and then had my cellular data run over the limit when updating apps the next day at home because I forgot to redo the setting.
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I completely agree. IMO that's exactly why they did it. I need to temporarily turn off WIFI very frequently. Before ios11, I would almost always forget to turn it back on when I got home, and it really bugged me. I think the new behavior is brilliant.

I think people miss that purpose, and I believe people overestimate the amount of battery life consumed by leaving it on. Sending or receiving large amounts data through wifi or cellular consumes a lot of battery life, but the simple periodic check for available networks (when wifi is on but idle) is a pretty minimal hit on battery life.

BTW I wonder if anyone has considered the fact that this wifi/bluetooth control panel behavior has precedence (and consistency) with the Do Not Disturb control panel behavior, which has ALWAYS been a temporary toggle.

I do believe that a hard press option to choose either behavior, (or a settings preference for "Control Panel turns off wifi completely") would make a lot of people happy, though I personally wouldn't use it.
 
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Apple Pay cash probably won’t work until they push out the updates for MacOS , watchOS, etc. so all of the devices work at the same time with it.
 
bobob said:
You can completely disable it in Settings if you 'wanna'.

Personally, I like the quick access in Control Center to a temporary disable option. I have accidentally (idiotically?) left Wi-Fi turned off, because of a limited Wi-Fi network blocking internet access, and then had my cellular data run over the limit when updating apps the next day at home because I forgot to redo the setting.
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Great for you. I have to disable Wi-Fi on a daily basis while on FaceTime calls because since iOS 11 it won’t cleanly transition from low Wi-Fi signal to LTE. Now it’s just more work to enable and disable Wi-Fi.
 
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H.E. Pennypacker said:
iOS being poorly designed is purely subjective. Personally I love iOS and think it’s superior to android. It’s simple, sophisticated and elegant. Android is clunky, confusing and laggy. I want an experienced that’s easy to use. Everyone complaining about these updates hasn’t been on android. We are fortunate to get updates, android doesn’t even push out to users for months. Sometimes never. You don’t know what you have until it’s gone.
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We don't need to be on android to tell you the new iOS is a horrible experience. What kind of logic is this?
 
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WilliamG said:
Great for you. I have to disable Wi-Fi on a daily basis while on FaceTime calls because since iOS 11 it won’t cleanly transition from low Wi-Fi signal to LTE. Now it’s just more work to enable and disable Wi-Fi.
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Great for you
 
MistrSynistr said:
We don't need to be on android to tell you the new iOS is a horrible experience. What kind of logic is this?
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All I hear is complaining. Does your phone make calls? Send texts? Recieve and send email? Browse safari? Boo hoo. Apple cash doesn’t work right away. I’m not seeing where all this whining is coming from. I have yet to have any bad experience on ios 11. I guess I’ll consider myself lucky.
 
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WilliamG said:
Helpful. If you’d like to provide some useful information, go ahead. Otherwise, jog on.
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Here's the info implicit in my comment:

Your initial "Great for you" (which I was mocking) was unnecessarily snarky. Your experience is valid, as was his, but your sarcasm was uncalled for and lowers the tone of this discussion
 
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PickUrPoison said:
If AirPlay 2 were going to be in the 11.2 release, it would have been in the betas; it wouldn’t just appear in the final.

With HomePod due by April 30, AirPlay 2 should be released within the next three or four months, unless HomePod gets delayed again.
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It was in the previous betas, until they delayed the stupid HomePod and removed the feature from the last one. I guess people with ATV’s aren’t allowed to use the feature until Apple gets the damn HomePod out the door.
 
pentidoes said:
I'd prefer it, if Apple would stop their "yearly-update cycles" on almost all products, thus fragmenting the hardware even more and fragmenting the software even more. I hate to be part of "living beta programs", that is not what Apple means - or at least meant.
I do remember "Apple - it just works."
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This is modern tech, and hardware/software evolve pretty quickly. Personally I find Apple's update processes NOT fragmented as compared to the primary alternative Android with its multiple free unsupported versions on dozens of different phone platforms. If you want no updates, just stop updating your hardware and software.
 
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bobob said:
You can completely disable it in Settings if you 'wanna'.

Personally, I like the quick access in Control Center to a temporary disable option. I have accidentally (idiotically?) left Wi-Fi turned off, because of a limited Wi-Fi network blocking internet access, and then had my cellular data run over the limit when updating apps the next day at home because I forgot to redo the setting.
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Yes, sadly Apple is pandering to the lowest common denominator. Child-proof cap for your phone as it were, for people that aren’t smart enough to disable cell data for updates.
 
PeteLP said:
Here's the info implicit in my comment:

Your initial "Great for you" (which I was mocking) was unnecessarily snarky. Your experience is valid, as was his, but your sarcasm was uncalled for and lowers the tone of this discussion
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Not at all. It genuinely is great for him that this is his preference. For others, it’s not ideal - and I provided a use case where it’s actually worse.

You, however, provided nothing - except derailing this thread.
 
Abazigal said:
Apple is a company run by human beings. There are going to be bugs and mistakes with every major release. It happens to all companies. It happened under Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, and every other CEO that ran any other company.

I believe the best thing Apple can do right now is to ignore these armchair critics and keep doing what they’re doing: fix the bugs (they did it on both of these within 24 hours), learn from the mistake, and move on.

What else can you really ask of them? Perfection? Not possible and unreasonable. Greatness? Greatness is finding a bug and having a patch out in under 24 hours. Heck, Google is considered a “great” software company around here and they still haven’t issued patches for some of the major bugs found on the Pixel 2 within hours of launch. And this is a company who focuses primarily on software.
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You didn't address ANY of the points I made. Not one. More reading and less writing would make discussions infinitely more productive.

Once again, no one is arguing that bugs don't happen.
 
From control center do those pop-ups for blue tooth and wifi happen EVERY time? Wow that is the suck if it does. Once is more than enough to figure it out.
 
H.E. Pennypacker said:
iOS being poorly designed is purely subjective. Personally I love iOS and think it’s superior to android. It’s simple, sophisticated and elegant. Android is clunky, confusing and laggy. I want an experienced that’s easy to use. Everyone complaining about these updates hasn’t been on android. We are fortunate to get updates, android doesn’t even push out to users for months. Sometimes never. You don’t know what you have until it’s gone.
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If every update brings new bugs and lag.
..what exactly is the benefit?!
 
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So I can actually turn my WiFi and BlueTooth off now or is this goofy message meant to replace that....? :-/
 
vipergts2207 said:
It was in the previous betas, until they delayed the stupid HomePod and removed the feature from the last one. I guess people with ATV’s aren’t allowed to use the feature until Apple gets the damn HomePod out the door.
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Don’t take it personally. It’s a matter of priorities. Airplay 2 was only a higher priority when HomePod was being released in December. You have HomePod to thank for the fact that AirPlay 2 was even in earlier betas in the first place.

Once HomePod was delayed, Apple preferred developers and beta testers focussed their testing efforts on other areas.

If messages in iCloud becomes the focus of 11.3, we might not see AirPlay 2 return until the 11.4 betas. Or maybe Apple will be releasing HomePod sooner, and AirPlay 2 will be in the 11.3 beta cycle, or even 11.2.x. Who knows?

The main purpose of iOS 11 is to add support for iPhone 8 and X. New feature rollouts, whether Apple Pay Cash, AirPlay 2 or messages in iCloud, are not as important as getting the OS stable and optimized for new (and older) devices.

In a perfect world, all the new features would have been in the 11.0 release. In the real world, we have to wait for Apple to release features, as time and resources permit.
 
The whole point of having a 3 month beta period between WWDC and iOS release is so they can thouroghly check the software for any bugs. Apple should not be adding any new features during this testing period.
 
Custom Ringtones.... still not fixed.

If Apple Support admits it's a bug. And you get all the way 11.2, i must assume they are NOT GOING to fix it. More functionality removed by Sir Ive.
 
WilliamG said:
Not at all. It genuinely is great for him that this is his preference. For others, it’s not ideal - and I provided a use case where it’s actually worse.

You, however, provided nothing - except derailing this thread.
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OK. It is possible that I misinterpreted your tone and intent. Looking at you message history, I must admit I don't see a lot of sarcasm. So Mea Culpa :)
 
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