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Apple Releases iOS 13.1.2 and iPadOS 13.1.2 with Fixes for Camera, iCloud Backup, HomePod Shortcut, and Flashlight Bugs

Baymowe335 said:
No, conversely, Microsoft leaves the same crap broken for months and gives you meaningless updates that do nothing.

I’ve been on calls with the Microsoft Enterprise support team to try to get the SQL editor bugs fixed. I work for a Fortune 10 company and we have the highest level of Microsoft support possible. They admitted there is a problem in the logic but indicated it won’t be fixed until a larger release.

You’re definitely overreacting to the last few updates from Apple. Some of these updates are improvements, not just bug fixes and some of them are just Apple trying to get you software quickly. They could be like Microsoft and update a ton of stuff you don’t even understand or wait forever like Samsung Android phones before they update, if ever.

If they didn’t update the software frequently, you’d complain it’s not fast enough and they should release fixes as they make them versus waiting for a massive release.

Software inherently has bugs. Frequent updates are FAR better than the alternative.
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Really? SQL editor bugs? How many normal people do you think that affects? Answer: none.

iOS bugs like Photos app restore of photos taking a week instead of hours is an issue that affects everyone.

I have clients running Windows 10 1903 since the day it was released and no issues.

If MS has "crap broken for months", it affects like 2 people. You...and someone else.
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Baymowe335 said:
I hope this is a joke. As someone who uses Microsoft products on a daily basis, they not only get CONSTANT updates, but stuff is constantly broken.

Excel is perhaps the buggiest program man has ever created If you’re doing anything more than SUMIFs and Vlookups.
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Name an OS where "stuff" isn't broken at some point or another.

You've completely missed the point people are making on iOS 13...released with major bugs and updates to fix a handful every other day. While I am not a believer that any new major verson of an OS should be perfect, I do believe that iOS 13 has far more blatant issues than it should have had.
 
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I’m happy they’re releasing fixes promptly. But as an Apple customer for 20 years, I can’t help but notice how the mantra “it just works” simply does not apply anymore. With iOS 13, I feel like I did when I got fed up with Windows XP and decided to get a Mac. Maybe now that they’re so big, catering to the “it just works” fans is not necessary anymore.

I’m particularly disappointed that the bugs in Mail weren’t amongst the first ones addressed. It’s a mission-critical application for many and certainly a core part of Internet usage. I hope they’re working diligently on fixing it.
 
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Mr. Dee said:
Great job folks, keep beta testing, will get 'em all soon. I am waiting until after Catalina, because you know very well, integration with features like Sidecar is gonna bring a lot of fixes for iOS.

Pretty happy with iOS 12.4.1 right now.
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I’m sticking with 12.4.1 on my iPhones and iPads for now. I use them for work and can’t afford bugs
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urgs said:
Not only in iOS, it also freezes in iPadOS, watchOS and macOS Catalina. Since iOS 13.1.1 I can't get rid of any of my (now overdue, but done) reminders on any of my updated devices.

I'm glad to have an old iPhone 5s with iOS 12.4.2....
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What? There was no 12.4.2... 12.4.1
 
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C3R2 said:
I’m sticking with 12.4.1 on my iPhones and iPads for now. I use them for work and can’t afford bugs
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What? There was no 12.4.2... 12.4.1
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You aren't up to date.
iOS 12.4.2 was released September 26th...
 
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Years ago, prime reason for giving up M$ for MacOSX was the painful experience of having to upgrade windows every time you logged in before being able to start working.

How much Apple looks like the old M$ :-(

I can only hope these updates include security patches on which they can't communicate ... otherwise some guys should be fired!
 
Looks like they are trying to save iOS 13 from being another iOS 11 which holds the gold standard for the worst software release on the planet. iOS 12 is where the speed and stability lies. It’s too bad I can’t downgrade my Pro Max to iOS 12.
 
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falainber said:
The fact that Apple is making these quick releases is a bad sign on its own. It says that the issues are critical and the fixes can't be delayed. Otherwise Apple would delay them (there were plenty of cases where iOS bugs were not fixed for a long long time). Besides, OS release (even as as simple IS as iOS) just can't be properly tested in a week, let alone in 3 days. What we are seeing is Apple making emergency releases without proper testing. Obviously, they just don't have a choice. But this also tells us that even after these latest releases iOS will still have plenty of bugs.
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It's obvious iOS 13 was released before it was ready but I'm happy to receive regular patches.

I've personally not had any show-stoppers since 13.1. Hopefully Apple can continue to swiftly patch other minor issues.
 
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It's getting worse, macos updates were also a desaster.... had even to switch to another browser since Safari had so much problems and couldn't use it anymore for some work stuff. The days of "Apple just works" are gone for sure but good thing Apple has such a loyal fanbase. I for myself except top notch quality since I also pay Apple premium prices.
 
Scott Forstall was fired for less yet Craig isn’t even told to apologise.

No wonder Jony couldn’t take it anymore.
 
Jim said:
This does explain "someone" flying to Germany to get the largest beer possible and still say you only had ONE. Craig might actually have gone to Weed, CA.
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Depending on where/when you visit a "Biergarten" in munich it can actually be the smallest beer possible....
 
SRLMJ23 said:
I think around Developer Beta 2 or 3, most of us knew iOS 13.0 was going to be rough at first, however, like many others are saying, at least Apple is putting out updates fast!

Could be worse, we could be on Android which rarely gets updated, or Microsoft which puts updates out every single week!

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I update my Androids steadily actually. I run custom ROMs to get software I want not what is handed to me. Having worked at Apple the last 3 years it's been a sad sight to see. They've dwindled down teams that used to focus on development for iOS and now overwork the percentage left. 13 is that result.
 
All iWant is iOS LT, bin the crappy frilly nonsense for a plain basic working phone, to match my lovely SE

– as nice as that animated Looking for Signal thing is, i'd rather just signal, battery, and a proximity sensor that still works after Apple replaces my battery after throttling
 
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dmylrea said:
Really? SQL editor bugs? How many normal people do you think that affects? Answer: none.

iOS bugs like Photos app restore of photos taking a week instead of hours is an issue that affects everyone.

I have clients running Windows 10 1903 since the day it was released and no issues.

If MS has "crap broken for months", it affects like 2 people. You...and someone else.
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Name an OS where "stuff" isn't broken at some point or another.

You've completely missed the point people are making on iOS 13...released with major bugs and updates to fix a handful every other day. While I am not a believer that any new major verson of an OS should be perfect, I do believe that iOS 13 has far more blatant issues than it should have had.
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1903 is not as great as you think. I support it on a day to day basis. Sure there are apps that don't function anymore (not a Windows issue). However, I had to rebuild my own PC twice now. The first issue was the taskbar stopped working. Then the search facility stopped working. I tried about 10 fixes online, nothing worked. Once rebuilt it worked great. Then fonts started to appear wrong after a reboot one time, nothing changed. I was getting squares with Asian text. Installed the language packs. Same issue.

Rebuilt again and now everything is working. Each time nothing was changed and yet these issues happened.

Another PC a colleague had printing issues. Tried the usually fixes. Again, resolved after reinstalling Win10. Another one, had issues logging a user on. I couldn't even log in as a local admin. It would freeze each time. Again, a reinstall of Win10 fixed it.

Each one of these Win10 was freshly installed, latest updates and they all had issues. The only option was a reinstall of Win10 and with all the latest updates they worked fine.
 
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