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Apple Releases iOS 13.1.2 and iPadOS 13.1.2 with Fixes for Camera, iCloud Backup, HomePod Shortcut, and Flashlight Bugs

Baymowe335 said:
There is a difference between going fantastic, normal, and a disaster. Not everything is a disaster.

Apple gets out software updates pretty quickly (clearly, because people are complaining it's actually too many) so the mistakes are addressed far more quickly than Android.

In my own meaninglessness and anecdotal experience, I had a Note 4 and there were so many bugs that never got fixed, I switched to iOS. It's night and day.
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The point is, that the beta test phase of iOS 13 shows that this release will not be ready for a september release, but apple decided to release iOS 13, ignoring all complains by the testers and developers.
I never had so many unfixed issues during the 3 month of beta testing iOS and macOS as I had on this year's release. Catalina is as unfinished as iOS 13. I don't recommend anyone to update before holiday season.

It's not a big deal to release a software 1 or 2 months later than advertised, when it will almost free from serious issues. I remember times, when Apple released a software or hardware "when it's done", not when investors are worrying about their stock value.

Apple should switch to a 2-year-intervall. For hard- and software. It will be better for quality and better for the planet, because people will use their devices much longer. I know too many who will update their phone every year (sometimes more often) just to have the latest and greatest ePenis - not doing anything more than Facebook and Whatsapp...
 
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urgs said:
The point is, that the beta test phase of iOS 13 shows that this release will not be ready for a september release, but apple decided to release iOS 13, ignoring all complains by the testers and developers.
I never had so many unfixed issues during the 3 month of beta testing iOS and macOS as I had on this year's release. Catalina is as unfinished as iOS 13. I don't recommend anyone to update before holiday season.

It's not a big deal to release a software 1 or 2 months later than advertised, when it will almost free from serious issues. I remember times, when Apple released a software or hardware "when it's done", not when investors are worrying about their stock value.

Apple should switch to a 2-year-intervall. For hard- and software. It will be better for quality and better for the planet, because people will use their devices much longer. I know too many who will update their phone every year (sometimes more often) just to have the latest and greatest ePenis - not doing anything more than Facebook and Whatsapp...
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Maybe it was or not, but the issues so far have no been much more than minor annoyances that I would bet most people didn't even notice.

Apple literally is the most profitable company in the world, so the idea they are clueless just gets old. Bugs happen, Apple fixes them and we move on.

My point here is the grass isn't greener on the other side. In fact, Android phones are KNOWN for not getting updates all, for various reasons.

Apple doesn't need to switch to a 2 year interval because their current process works. Can it be improved? Sure. Is it a disaster? Hell no.

I promise you...if this were a disaster, Apple would put their entire company behind making it not a disaster. Again, you and/or this forum aren't authorities on what constitutes a bad launch, disaster launch or any other doom and gloom adjective thrown around here. Apple manages their software for the masses. If they piss some of you off, they'll send out an update. Big picture, no one cares...they like iOS and don't want to leave. That's what we see.
 
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ondert said:
I’m still on 12.4.1 on my xs max, any suggestions?
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Suggestions for what??? Upgrade to current iOS??? Yes! There are fixes in place for items that need them. Apple has a devoted team that constantly finds and fixes things. We are talking millions of lines of code. There are no drastic/world shattering problems. Upgrade and stay on top of updates. You will enjoy it!
 
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urgs said:
The point is, that the beta test phase of iOS 13 shows that this release will not be ready for a september release, but apple decided to release iOS 13, ignoring all complains by the testers and developers.
I never had so many unfixed issues during the 3 month of beta testing iOS and macOS as I had on this year's release. Catalina is as unfinished as iOS 13. I don't recommend anyone to update before holiday season.

It's not a big deal to release a software 1 or 2 months later than advertised, when it will almost free from serious issues. I remember times, when Apple released a software or hardware "when it's done", not when investors are worrying about their stock value.

Apple should switch to a 2-year-intervall. For hard- and software. It will be better for quality and better for the planet, because people will use their devices much longer. I know too many who will update their phone every year (sometimes more often) just to have the latest and greatest ePenis - not doing anything more than Facebook and Whatsapp...
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Another option Apple can implement is release features over the year as opposed to promising all features will release on day 1 in September. So for example;

iOS 13.1 => New features / bug fixes
iOS 13.2 => New features / bug fixes
iOS 13.3 => New features / bug fixes
 
HobbesInVA said:
It may appear there is overacting, however, it's my understanding this forum is for enthusiasts, even may be say Apple fans.

PSA ---- Apple fans, please curb your enthusiasm. This is an Apple forum, but we must decrease our fandom. <sarcasm off>
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Absolutely! We need to lower our expectations. It's not like Apple has total control over the OS, base software, and hardware.
 
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I had a Pro and the camera app would turn black as if the shutter was off/closed right when launching the app. Closing the app would correct things, but sometimes it would require another close. Anyone know if this issue is fixed? My XR is still on 13.1 pb4, while my Pro Max is still on stock software in the box. Thanks!
Edit: finally received my update for 13.1.2. Not sure if this will create a problem for the Pro Max that’s running 13.0
 
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Apple today released iOS and iPadOS 13.1.2, updates to the iOS and iPadOS 13.1.1 software that was released on Friday.

The iOS and iPadOS 13.1.2 updates are available on all eligible devices over-the-air in the Settings app. To access the updates, go to Settings > General > Software Update.

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According to Apple's notes for the beta, the iOS 13.1.2 update introduces bug fixes for several issues, including problems with the camera, iCloud backup, flashlight, and more.There are also separate release notes for the iPadOS 13.1.2 update:iOS 13.1.1, released last Friday, was also a bug fix update and came after iOS 13.1, released a week ago.

Article Link: Apple Releases iOS 13.1.2 and iPadOS 13.1.2 with Fixes for Camera, iCloud Backup, HomePod Shortcut, and Flashlight Bugs
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I do not have any of these bugs should I have Greate?
 
penajmz said:
Everyone complaining about the updates, would you rather have no updates with fixes?
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That’s not the issue. The issue, I’m assuming is that we don’t always have time to update our devices, and when we do, there’s literally a new update not too long after.
I just updated my iPad Pro on Saturday and already there’s an update??
 
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Baymowe335 said:
There is a difference between going fantastic, normal, and a disaster. Not everything is a disaster.

Apple gets out software updates pretty quickly (clearly, because people are complaining it's actually too many) so the mistakes are addressed far more quickly than Android.

In my own meaninglessness and anecdotal experience, I had a Note 4 and there were so many bugs that never got fixed, I switched to iOS. It's night and day.
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Fair enough. I've never called it a disaster though. It is normal for someone to be upset that their products are not working as intended though. We pay the price because "It just works."

Of course its better than Android, it sure better be or then it would be a disaster.
 
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whoknows2597 said:
That’s not the issue. The issue, I’m assuming is that we don’t always have time to update our devices, and when we do, there’s literally a new update not too long after.
I just updated my iPad Pro on Saturday and already there’s an update??
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The updates compound if a household has multiple iPhones, watches, iPads, etc. Especially, if one person does all the updates for their family.
 
Camera still lags on XS Max. Same for ProCam app.
I certainly won’t be racing to adopt Catalina considering the iOS issues.
 
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smulji said:
Another option Apple can implement is release features over the year as opposed to promising all features will release on day 1 in September. So for example;

iOS 13.1 => New features / bug fixes
iOS 13.2 => New features / bug fixes
iOS 13.3 => New features / bug fixes
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They're already doing that.

(13.2 will likely come with Deep Fusion, for example.)

But some of the foundational changes, especially ones affecting third-party developers, should be prioritized for the .0. And that didn't go quite as planned.
 
bbednarz said:
Fair enough. I've never called it a disaster though. It is normal for someone to be upset that their products are not working as intended though. We pay the price because "It just works."

Of course its better than Android, it sure better be or then it would be a disaster.
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Apple has positioned themselves to offer a premium product. With that premium product comes increased expectations regarding quality around their hardware and software.

When I shop at WalMart I don't expect the same quality of goods or services as I do at an Apple store. Same can be said with the iPhone and an Android smartphone.
 
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Yea man these 80mb updates are whats causing you to hit 1 terrabyte usage..:rolleyes:

did you download them 12,500 times in a month bro?
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So I also almost hit my Xfinity 1TB cap this month. Restoring just my 512gb iPhone's apps (thank god I did the phone to phone and not iCloud restore) My house has a couple Nest cameras but with updating multiple Tablets, Computers on beta, and phones it easily added around 300gb to my monthly usage this month. I have ~80gb so fingers crossed I make it to next month.
 
thecastle said:
At least it's not as bad as Windows 10.
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1. Windows is just fine. I'm on 1809 and have no issues.
2. At least with Windows you can select which release channel you want to be on. I'm on the slower (non-targeted) channel, so by the time 1903 rolls out to my systems it will be thoroughly vetted. You cannot say the same for any of Apple's products, which do not offer the option of sticking with an older but more reliable version while still receiving security updates (i.e. iOS 12 in this case).
3. Windows doesn't require you to shutdown your whole system every time there's a minor update. And when a reboot is required, it will graciously allow you to defer it or pick a reboot time when you're not using your device. (Apple sort of allows installing and rebooting later, but it's not the same because it doesn't do anything till that window has arrived and the window is a fixed period of time in the middle of the night--versus Windows actually doing it when you're truly not using your device because you can set the time.)

This entire release for iOS 13 has been a really sad joke. As a tech enthusiast I'm typically quite eager to try out new iOS releases, even if I leave one (primary) device held back for a few weeks. But this time around I'm not even trying it. There are countless threads reporting issues with Mail and Reminders and those are two applications I use extensively.

This entire release was rushed to market. The whole "ship-when-ready" concept is completely foreign to Apple. I know some developers are big on rapid releases, but what's happening here is not that. This is executives forcing the release of software before it's ready and the developers having to rush patches to fix their incomplete work. Nothing about this is professional, certainly not from a company the size of Apple.
 
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Major UI overhauls are often buggy, so I'm not surprised. This was an ambitious release with lots of plumbing changes, and clearly Apple didn't finish on time. I like the quick bug releases; they're almost like nightly builds of products in development.

It really makes me glad Apple didn't try to do this last year in iOS 12.
 
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