Things like that can and certainly do happen.
Definitely all sound in theory, but in practice it all often turns out somewhat differently for all kinds of reasons.
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Apple Releases iOS 14.0.1 With Fix for Bug That Resets Default Apps After Rebooting
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Bug free software is clearly a good goal, but in reality an impossible feat. Things/bugs that people on this forum believe should have been a slam isn’t. After all wasn’t caught in the beta cycles either.
A good clue on this topic is Microsoft patch Tuesday. Why gave a patch Tuesday if after 30+ years of windows they can’t figure out how to release bug-free software.
kind of crazy how this hasn't been covered more. it's a widespread issue. I wonder if it affects people over a certain number of apps or folders.
given how messy and destructive (of often-carefully-organized folders) this is, I'm not sure why widgets were even released in 14.0. such a buggy feature should've been scrapped and waited to be released until 14.1 or 14.2.
Found these other links talking about the same issue, since beta 1 until a few hours ago:
iOS 14 iPhone folders disappearing | Apple Developer Forums
Apple’s first iOS update after iOS 14 just hit, and it fixes resetting app defaults
The update addresses iOS and iPadOS 14’s most widely reported bug.
arstechnica.com
Folders disappeared?? - Apple Community
iOS 14 widget removed apps from screen - Apple Community
Agreed. My 11 Pro Max lasted 2 full days on a charge, after upgrading to 14 i only get almost a day.
Bug-free software is virtually impossible. You will almost invariably have both 1 and 2.
not all bugs created equal, if one bug will flash your macbook screen to green for 1 second if you open 200+ tabs on the same website is not a big issue. If you update iOS and a "bug" sends all your iOS Mail e-mails to millions of random people online...thats not acceptable.
In the past software was released, including a complete OS, and were functioning perfect for most people and updating was not even an option.
There were all kinds of things here and there across time. As I recall there was even a Mac OS released "in the past" where user data was just deleted.
That would be OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard. Revisionists now laud Snow Leopard as the gold standard version of Mac OS. The whole notion of "Zero New Features" is something that a lot of Apple users keep bringing up whenever a new version of iOS or MacOS comes out. I see constant references to wanting Apple to come out with a "Snow Leopard" version of iOS (they almost got that with iOS 12, which I would say has been the most reliable recent version of iOS and also the one with the modest changes) or a similarly aligned MacOS update.
I would agree that by the time OS X 10.6.8 came out, Snow Leopard was the most rock solid and reliable Mac OS that I've ever used. But, the initial release of OS X 10.6 led to data losses by a lot of users, namely those who logged in using a guest account. You could restore the data if you backed up your data using Time Machine. But, if you didn't, you were screwed.
BBC NEWS | Technology | Data losses in Snow Leopard bug
news.bbc.co.uk
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That's not how Apple rolls with the iOS platform. They don't give users the option of downgrading after the code signing window closes. If you choose to update to the latest version of iOS, you have a limited window of time to downgrade. That's how they've operated with the iPhone since the beginning. This is nothing new.
Apple touts the security of iOS, and a big part of that is migrating the vast majority of the ecosystem to the most current standards. If you value stability the most, then you should always wait until the EOL version of iOS comes out before upgrading. But, the tradeoff is that you miss out on the security updates along with all the other new features that Apple wants in front of users (and target to developers).
From what I've seen over the years, more of the random glitches have come from OTA updates. And nowadays, that's how the majority of device owners update. Think about it this way, every time you use an OTA update, a small or large subset of the iOS files get replaced. The list of replaced files gets longer with every successive update, and it becomes more random if you do OTA updates only some of the time, or if you skip some iOS updates. With thousands to hundreds of thousands of files getting replaced, there's a decent chance of something not going right, and there have been past updates where some incorrect files got replaced during the OTA update. That's why for every milestone update and for all XX.X feature updates, I will do the full installation.
All things considered, iOS 14 doesn't have any huge bugs from what I can see. People will gripe about the changes or how certain features work, but it definitely seems that iOS 13 had a rockier launch. Gripes about battery life have accompanied EVERY iOS update, so I tend not to give too much credence to those complaints until after a few weeks have lapsed.
No such thing as perfect software, even back in the days when the Mac OS was small enough to be issued on a single floppy disk. Updating has always been an option, even when most computers were not network connected. If you needed to update the OS, you either purchased or made a copy of the updated boot disk and your computer was now running the new OS.
I never got whats the big deal with Snow Leopard. OS X was always stable for me on all versions, except that I didn't use every single version I skipped on some. I heard bad things about Mojave and Catalina.That would be OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard. Revisionists now laud Snow Leopard as the gold standard version of Mac OS. The whole notion of "Zero New Features" is something that a lot of Apple users keep bringing up whenever a new version of iOS or MacOS comes out. I see constant references to wanting Apple to come out with a "Snow Leopard" version of iOS (they almost got that with iOS 12, which I would say has been the most reliable recent version of iOS and also the one with the modest changes) or a similarly aligned MacOS update.
I would agree that by the time OS X 10.6.8 came out, Snow Leopard was the most rock solid and reliable Mac OS that I've ever used. But, the initial release of OS X 10.6 led to data losses by a lot of users, namely those who logged in using a guest account. You could restore the data if you backed up your data using Time Machine. But, if you didn't, you were screwed.
BBC NEWS | Technology | Data losses in Snow Leopard bug
That being said, if I was one of those who lost their data I will lose my faith in Apple. I specifically use MacOS for stability, ease of use, and reliability.
Honestly, i never heard any one being attacked by those "security" updates. Unless you are doing online banking using a 2007 FireFox release, I never saw a problem browsing the web with older software or heard of it.
No such thing as perfect but then again, its one thing if your car's stereo system skips once in a while playing a music file and another thing if your engine explodes at 60MPH on the highway.
You could update, but I imagine both Apple and Microsoft didn't imagine the majority of their customers running to computer shops to purchase that new 0.1 update. Heck, some people don't update their smartphones although its free.
My iPhone 7 plus mic is still not working. Camera fixed In 14.0.1 but mic is still not working.
Well, the big deal with Snow Leopard was "zero new features." That wasn't entirely true, but it led to the perception that Apple focused more on under-the-hood improvements on that version than prior versions of OS X that also made wholesale changes to the look and functionality of the OS. It was also true that by the time that 10.6.8 came out that Snow Leopard was easily the most stable and reliable version of OS X that had come out. With Snow Leopard, our Mac could go months at a time without rebooting. With Lion, that changed (made the upgrade because I needed to update to a version of iTunes that would support my iPhone).
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Putting "faith" in any tech company in this day and age is a lost cause. Apple fixed that Snow Leopard bug in fairly short order, but the data loss occurred in a use case they had overlooked. That's why I don't update to a new OS version on the day of release, especially after Apple went to the yearly update schedule for both iOS and MacOS. It's also why I keep local backups for both my iOS devices and Mac.
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And that's the whole point of a security update -- to plug the hole before it becomes widely exploited. Just because it never happened to you doesn't mean that it's not an issue or a potential issue. Like I said, if stability is your priority, then you should wait until the EOL version of iOS comes out and stay with that until the next EOL version becomes available. But, you leave your device open to new security threats that might crop up in the interim.
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Tell me what persistent widespread bug is out there that would cause an engine to explode at 60 MPH. That example makes no sense. Nothing being reported about iOS 14 would indicate a serious showstopping issue on that equivalent scale was allowed to go through the cracks.
Back in those days, customers that wanted to update their Mac OS would either go to the shop with a blank disk or find a friend who already had it to make their own copy. That's how I updated my Mac SE to Systems 5 and 6. I also bought MS-DOS update disks at the electronics store. They were often sold right at the checkout counter.
But, the whole point is that you talk about perfect software as if it existed at some imaginary point in the past, and I'm simply pointing out that it was never the case, even when you could fit an entire OS onto a 400k floppy disk.
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Are you using the OTA updates, or downloading the full IPSW installation using Finder/iTunes? From what I've seen over the years, random glitches happen more often when people update using the OTA method.
Have you seen any other reports of mic issues, and have you reported this to Apple? Otherwise, if it's something more random in nature, you could try reinstalling iOS (make sure you have backed up before trying this, since it entails setting up your device as new), or wait until the next update comes out and update your phone by connecting it to a computer and using Finder/iTunes.
Being completely bug free is impossible, but there's a way to get close: stop changing things. Changes are what introduce bugs. When you keep the base stable, you can fix bugs as they come up without introducing new ones. After a few years, you'll discover that there are fewer and fewer bugs.
I'd posit that the most stable, bug-free OS you could reasonable run in 2020 is almost certainly Windows 7 (which still recieves security updates if you're lucky enough to be a large business). How it got that way isn't some big mystery—for the past decade, Microsoft has been releasing security and bug-fix updates without making any major changes. It doesn't have any widgets on the homescreen, but what's more important?
I'm not saying Apple needs to turn into Microsoft, but I'd really like them to slow down with these yearly updates.
Apple will not stop changing things as the mobile market is very competitive. If Apple did slow down, there would be addtional hue and cry on these forums how Apple is lagging, holding back features etc. For some, there is no winning for Apple one way or another.
For the average person, yep, Windows 7 if you are some enterprise customer, 11 years after release is pretty good. For the last few years in the life of windows 7 it wasn't about new functionality. Windows 10 on the other hand, has been a bit of a mess. (Having said that, with all users across all operating systems, people perceive things differently.)
They are not going to, due to what my rational is above.
That turned out have security issues.
Microsoft advises users to disable Windows Gadgets following security vulnerability fears
Microsoft is urging Windows 7 and Windows Vista users to disable desktop Gadgets following security vulnerability concerns.
www.theverge.com
Whoops, I thought they were removed after Vista but I was very wrong! Okay, bad example!
I don't disagree at all, I just think it's incorrect to frame these bugs as some fact of life. Apple has made a choice, and that choice has advantages (new features) and downsides (more bugs). Maybe Apple won't change their course, but it's fair for users to lament the downsides to their current approach. (Those users should, however, also understand the trade-offs in what they're asking for.)
And at minimum, someone in the technology space ought to be offering the opposite trade-off, since as you mentioned, Microsoft no longer is as of Windows 10. I suppose there's Debian, but it would be good to have something more accessible.
I'm personally quite annoyed with the state of technology right now, across the entire industry. There's far too much needless churn, and far too little reliability.
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Not perfect, but stable. This does not apply to Windows 98 though, or Windows in general.
I am no programmer, but I agree with what you say and Linux Debian style of Long Term support checks out with what you say. Their LTS version is like the 5-10 year old version that has been tested to death.