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Apple Releases iOS 17.5.1 With Fix for Reappearing Photos Bug
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Maybe when files are deleted and flag is down, they aren't really deleted, just like any other computer. Until the hard drive space is reused, the file is still there. So users with lots of free space, your deleted files aren't really deleted. The space is just flagged as reusable. Nothing new.
What's new is that Apple accidentally showed it can recover this data any time it wants. Until you overwrite the data enough times.
What's new is that Apple accidentally showed it can recover this data any time it wants. Until you overwrite the data enough times.
Knowing Apple they won’t even remotely hint at an explanation of what exactly is happening, their PR machine is annoying… maybe it’s time to get those CEOs and VPs and whatnot to an interrogation room with some BlackOps agents or something.
After they answer, throw in as bonus questions to explain the real reasons for no calc app on iPad and if there are plans for macOS.
After they answer, throw in as bonus questions to explain the real reasons for no calc app on iPad and if there are plans for macOS.
I'm certainly going to be sure you'll participate and being extremely negative?
When was the last time you posted anything positive about Apple? 5 years ago?
Nothing will come from this. We're in the age where taking accountability is just not a thing anymore.
Everyone gets a prize, your prize is old photos. Apple's prize is for fixing the issue they introduced.
I’m sorry but this headline, implying that it was just nude photos impacted, is the worst kind of clickbait. I noticed this story doesn’t allow comments either. Most likely because the comments would have chastised the headline. Is this the kind of site Nilay Patel wants to run?
www.theverge.com
Apple’s new iPhone update fixes a bug that resurfaced deleted nudes
Update your iPhone immediately
www.theverge.com
Are you kidding? 9to5 didn't give a detailed analysis. They just parroted what people said on forums. Apple hasn't given a detailed explanation of what happened. Just vague release notes about database corruption, and not much can be drawn from what little information they gave. What database corruption are they referring to exactly? Then there's a big comment slapped right in the middle of the article, which is Zilla from this very thread quoting himself from here and pasting it over on 9to5 going on about his Files app theory, which neither Apple, nor any other news outlet on planet earth has come up with. That entire article is conjecture and it doesn't help clear up what the actual issue is. If they fixed it, fine, but they need to clarify exactly what happened. They still have yet to even talk about the Apple ID bug that went on for months.
That story does have comments. It's on the right side of the article under the date.I’m sorry but this headline, implying that it was just nude photos impacted, is the worst kind of clickbait. I noticed this story doesn’t allow comments either. Most likely because the comments would have chastised the headline. Is this the kind of site Nilay Patel wants to run?
Apple’s new iPhone update fixes a bug that resurfaced deleted nudes
Update your iPhone immediately
This is no where near good enough, and the way that's it's written treats this massive red flag as simply "case closed". A corrupted database doesn't just resurrect long deleted photos from past. If photos from 2010 are appearing on device, they are being stored somewhere, and (likely) not locally on iPhones. I think this pretty much confirms what lots of us have suspected – nothing is ever deleted, act accordingly.
Some form of Bitmap Structures (BMS) corruption would do that. So that not overwritten blocks magically show file content.
To answer your query, I have a similar .photoslibrary entry in that directory but mine is only 3.4 MB.
The "shared album" of old family photos I had reappear went into the .photoslibrary at /Users/me/Pictures/ which is now 1.3 GB. And agreed, it arrived from the cloud (not from on device). I watched it download over wifi, turned off wifi and the download paused, turned wifi back on and download resumed. The album is dated 2020, which is from before I bought my MacBook Air M1 in 2021.
This comes on the same day as the article about Microsoft's new PCs having a "photographic memory" of everything you've ever done on your PC.
The principle I think we need to work to now is that there is no such thing as delete in the traditional sense of the word.
These new tools never forget anything. Same as some people....
The principle I think we need to work to now is that there is no such thing as delete in the traditional sense of the word.
These new tools never forget anything. Same as some people....
iCloud has to keep track of which device you have which files on and which you have deleted them from. When fixing the synch problem they forgot to check that the device still had the same owner.
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The only way iCloud is involved in this problem is in cloud sync. When the photos reappeared due to the bug in iOS and iPadOS, those resurrected photos were synced back to iCloud and downloaded to your Mac. The bug is not on the Mac side, but rather on iPhones and iPads. The photos appear on the Mac only because they reappeared on iPhones/iPads. iCloud is just doing what it’s supposed to… sync up all devices. iCloud can’t tell the difference between a never-deleted photo and a resurrected photo.
This is really funny because it’s not happening to me. Makes you wonder why this is occurring for some people.
Think about it. You delete a photo from one of your devices. You have another device with that photo that's switched off. Months later you turn that device on. iCloud has to keep a record of its deletion in order to delete that photo.
I didn’t get one. I’m deliberately waiting to see how long it will be before I do…
Never happened. That was a troll post.
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The photos that appeared in my photos app - old photos from an art gallery exhibit from my college years in 2015 - reappeared because, unbeknownst to me, I had them stored in my iCloud Drive. iOS 17.5 imported all .jpeg and other media files into the photos app, giving the illusion that 'deleted' photos were reappearing, when in reality they were still on your phone and/or iCloud account.
Don't believe the conspiracy theorists/nutjobs.
Apple today released iOS 17.5.1 and iPadOS 17.5.1, minor updates to the iOS 17 and iPadOS 17 operating system updates that came out last September. The 17.5.1 updates come a week after the launch of iOS 17.5 and iPadOS 17.5.
iOS 17.5.1 and iPadOS 17.5.1 can be downloaded on eligible iPhones and iPads over-the-air by going to Settings > General > Software Update.
According to Apple's release notes, the updates include a fix for an issue that could cause images to reappear in the Photos library even after being deleted. There have been several complaints from iPhone and iPad users who saw their old, deleted photos resurfacing after installing the iOS 17.5 update. Images deleted as far back as 2010 were surfacing again, leading to confusion and worry over what was going on. Apple's information today indicates that it was a database corruption issue, and iOS 17.5.1 should solve the problem.
Article Link: Apple Releases iOS 17.5.1 With Fix for Reappearing Photos Bug
Interesting. But if the photos “came back” (some reports say from years ago), were they ever really deleted? Wonder what other info/data Apple has salted away? Getting more and more cynical as I get older. Trust no one 😳
This does make a lot of sense to me
I’ve had convos with several people that have provided ample information & even evidence of their photos re-appearing on their devices
These were the things that i noticed:
1) they had icloud turned off for photos
2) the photos that re-appeared were deleted from their PREVIOUS device
these things confirmed to me that its not icloud related (as they didnt use icloud for photos)
but it also tells me that it isn’t hard drive related either (the deleted photos have never been on the new device in question)
All of them did restore their new devices from a backup & given the explanation in that reddit thread, it would make sense that these “deleted” photos were also restored as they were present in the files & the 17.5 update merely mistakenly transferred these photos from the files app to the photos library app
But still, these are just mere assumptions & hypotheses
I still (as everyone else) would appreciate if apple came out & did a press release that would confirm & debunk some of the claims made during the last couple days
Btw, the reddit user with that wiped & sold ipad story not only deleted that post but also their entire account
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I really hope a lawyer goes to court for a class action status, to just sweep this under the rug is not good. Photos can be of private documents to the family cat, this could be wide-ranging in what is being "cached"
AND
make Apple prove they deleted photos, no later than 30 days, as it clearly is stated!
AND
make Apple prove they deleted photos, no later than 30 days, as it clearly is stated!