I know the iPhone 3GS has been jailbroken, but what about the iPhone 3G? Would Pwnagetool work or is the 3G still unable to be jailbroken?
There is a very good reason for doing that which is explained at the end of the article:This Macworld review says that the phone takes 3 pics when you shoot one, in order to process it's HDR:
http://www.macworld.com/article/153850/2010/09/hdrontheiphone.html?lsrc=nl_mwweek_h_cbstories
The example in the article looks like the iPhone HDR redistributes the tonal balance, probably weighting it towards lights and mid tones like I had mentioned in a prior post.
HDR photography isn't loved by everyone. The final products can be garish, and when everything in an image is perfectly exposed the scene can look fake. Apple's HDR appears to avoid this pitfall by dialing down the overall effect. It's so mild that some iPhone photographers might choose to leave the setting on all the time.
There is a very good reason for doing that which is explained at the end of the article:
The first HDR pictures that afallingbomb28 posted had one image from Pro HDR which has a very unnatural look to it. The sky is getting darker at the top, the colours seem to have too much contrast. The sky in the Apple's HDR version is a natural sky, it's how a blue sky is supposed to look. The second set of pictures seem to be suffering from the same thing: the Pro HDR picture sky is a bit unnatural due to the very deep blue colour. Sometimes such an effect can improve the look of a picture but mostly it doesn't due to it being unnatural.
This also means that there is no good HDR. It's a taste thing. Bear in mind that things like a phone are mostly used for snapshots. Those pictures are not high quality and there really is not much need for it. Adding HDR to it does not really make a lot of sense. I think it's just something you can play with and in some cases it may even be useful.
I disagree. The photos look "fake" because you're used to the old way. The fact is, we all see in HDR, why would we not want our photos to look the way we actually see? When you look at a landscape do you see a blue sky and green grass or do you see a white sky with green grass? HDR is just putting detail into the photograph that we used to not be able to capture. I don't see what's so wrong or "fake" about that.
I guess you think HD movies look fake too because they're too detailed right? Think about what you say sometimes. HDR does not equal "fake". It's actually more true-to-life than regular photography.
EDIT: I'm not talking about over-tone-mapping though. I think the embossed look looks very lame.
What you say is true, but HDR compresses the huge dynamic range that can be present in a natural scene into the relatively small dynamic range a computer monitor or print can display. While HDR may increase realism by properly exposing the entire tonal range of an image, attempting to squeeze a larger dynamic range into a smaller will inevitably lead to the loss of some amount of realism. Unlike an HD movie, which is a pure gain in realism from an SD movie, at it's best HDR trades a loss of information at one location, the image sensor, for a loss of information at another, the output device. Sometimes HDR looks great, but other times it may even detract from a photo, which is why it's great that the iPhone will save both versions and let you choose later.
Just about everything you said there is wrong. We don't see in HDR. We can process a higher range of color than an LCD or piece of paper. That, however, is due to how our brains work, not how our eyes see.I disagree. The photos look "fake" because you're used to the old way. The fact is, we all see in HDR, why would we not want our photos to look the way we actually see? When you look at a landscape do you see a blue sky and green grass or do you see a white sky with green grass? HDR is just putting detail into the photograph that we used to not be able to capture. I don't see what's so wrong or "fake" about that.
I guess you think HD movies look fake too because they're too detailed right? Think about what you say sometimes. HDR does not equal "fake". It's actually more true-to-life than regular photography.
EDIT: I'm not talking about over-tone-mapping though. I think the embossed look looks very lame.
Just about everything you said there is wrong. We don't see in HDR. We can process a higher range of color than an LCD or piece of paper. That, however, is due to how our brains work, not how our eyes see.
No, they don't look the same as what my own eyes are seeing. I'm comparing what my eyes are capturing with whatever is on the picture. HDR has some disadvantages regarding saturation and contrast. This causes all sorts of effects which sometimes add more to the picture. Skies however are not dark blue during day time, they are that way at dusk. Skies also do not go from blue to dark blue. Just look outside for once and than compare what you're seeing with what's on the picture. You'll notice the differences immediately. Some people love this effect and even exaggerate it which makes it even worse.I disagree. The photos look "fake" because you're used to the old way.
Our eyes aren't that great for vision, it's our brain that does the most job and turns something bad into something good. The problem with current cameras is their inability with situations where you have both a lot of light and nearly no light at all. Our vision (eyes + brain) is unbelievably good at such situations. HDR is just a way to mimic how our vision works. The idea is great but in reality HDR sucks due to things like technical limitations in our equipment (lenses, cameras, etc.) and in the way the equipment and/or you create HDR images (one thing being taste). It's not the idea I oppose, but how it's done in reality.The fact is, we all see in HDR, why would we not want our photos to look the way we actually see?
I see an evenly light blue sky with white clouds and an evenly green field. What I see on HDR pictures is a darker blue sky which most of the times shift to a much darker blue (sometimes even blackish) colour at the top of the picture (as one of the images in the last couple of pages here) and a green field which has a darker green than the real thing. What I see in nearly all the HDR pictures are different colours, colour shifts (which aren't there in reality) and other distortions. That's what makes it fake.When you look at a landscape do you see a blue sky and green grass or do you see a white sky with green grass? HDR is just putting detail into the photograph that we used to not be able to capture. I don't see what's so wrong or "fake" about that.
Again, the idea is different from how it's currently done in reality. Due to technical limitations you get all sorts of weird colouration and it's those things that make the picture look fake. The problem lies in the way can create HDR images. There are some technical limitations we currently can not work around. HDR currently is not proper HDR and thus HDR photography unfortunately is not more true-to-life than regular photography (it mostly is more fake than regular photography).I guess you think HD movies look fake too because they're too detailed right? Think about what you say sometimes. HDR does not equal "fake". It's actually more true-to-life than regular photography.
No, they don't... Blah blah blah
I've seen it in HDR images that didn't have over-tonemapping as well...The HDR you're talking about is over-tonemapping.
No, they don't look the same as what my own eyes are seeing. I'm comparing what my eyes are capturing with whatever is on the picture. HDR has some disadvantages regarding saturation and contrast. This causes all sorts of effects which sometimes add more to the picture. Skies however are not dark blue during day time, they are that way at dusk. Skies also do not go from blue to dark blue. Just look outside for once and than compare what you're seeing with what's on the picture. You'll notice the differences immediately.
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I see an evenly light blue sky with white clouds and an evenly green field. What I see on HDR pictures is a darker blue sky which most of the times shift to a much darker blue (sometimes even blackish) colour at the top of the picture (as one of the images in the last couple of pages here) and a green field which has a darker green than the real thing. What I see in nearly all the HDR pictures are different colours, colour shifts (which aren't there in reality) and other distortions. That's what makes it fake.
This is true but it doesn't apply to picture since seeing those changes would require an exposure time of an entire day. Pictures are taken in a very short period of time at a certain location. The only colour differences you have are caused by the way light shines on something or bounces back to your eyes. The colour changes in the air are also caused by many other things such as clouds (which is a lot more likely to cause the "colour change" you see in the sky (it's not a colour change, you simply see an object in front of it)). However, those colour changes are completely different from what you see on nearly every hdr image.The sky is not evenly blue. The colour changes a lot in relation to the position of the sun and proximity to the horizon. It's a thing with our athmosphere. You might want to try using a light meter because your eyes (or your brain if you will) fool you quite a bit and just assume it is an even colour. The blue can be very dark sometimes even at noon. The colour also changes with geographical location and, of course, there is the continuous haze you get in cities.
Very very slight variations mostly which caused me to say they were evenly. However you do have a point here.I seriously doubt you see evenly green fields either unless you have some sort of eye condition. All natural surfaces have variation.
Et voila, the problem is you're a photographerOnce you learn to see and not assume the world is quite a different place. I've worked for a good while as a photographer and I see all the colour gradients you say don't exist. If you said the hdr pictures look exaggerated, that would be closer to the truth.
This is true but it doesn't apply to picture since seeing those changes would require an exposure time of an entire day. Pictures are taken in a very short period of time at a certain location. The only colour differences you have are caused by the way light shines on something or bounces back to your eyes. The colour changes in the air are also caused by many other things such as clouds (which is a lot more likely to cause the "colour change" you see in the sky (it's not a colour change, you simply see an object in front of it)). However, those colour changes are completely different from what you see on nearly every hdr image.
Light meters measure light intensity, they don't measure colours and gradients.