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You do know that Pro HDR is an app on said "mobile phone" that works 1,000x better.

I'm not demeaning the iphone's camera, because it's all I use as a camera since I bought the iphone4. I'm just saying this "hdr" add on to it by apple is useless.


Please stop hurting those fanboys .......... ! In their eyes, whatever from Apple is great and wonderful :D:D:D
 
When I updated my iPT 2nd Gen on June 22nd it was the worst day of my iPod life. For a solid month and through a dozen restores, I still had nothing but a complete useless device. Even all the Apple apps crashed. I finally got it working pretty well by deleting all the computer's backups, then having iTunes make a fresh backup and THEN restoring and after that it was worked without so many crashes. It still had the problem of the WiFi dropping its signal and causing my AEBS to report errors from the iPod, and it was noticeably laggy in many ways, but at least it had its basic functionality back.

I installed 4.1 this evening and WOW!!! What a huge difference in speed! I'm blown away. Some things are faster than 3.1.3 was! I have this one game that I was even playing earlier today before the update and it would take about 10 or 15 seconds to load each level. It now loads the levels in less than 1 second. I'm very glad to have my iPod back! I hope it's going well for all. It's going to take a while to see if the WiFi issues that begin with 4.0 are resolved, but I haven't seen a drop yet so that's a good sign.
 
You sure there gone, they could have been to another screen like mine was moved. and I had to move them over one.

Did you sync and backup prior to doing the upgrade? I know iTunes warns me that some of the apps that I have downloaded have not been synced and will go away if I don't do a back up prior to updating.
 
It's not a true HDR. It uses 1 photo, and post processes it.


If that's the case, then HDR on the phone is total BS. One regular shot that runs beyond the camera phone's capability is what would typically contain blown highlight detail or filled in shadows. How is the software supposed to recreate detail that is not present in the one image?
 
If that's the case, then HDR on the phone is total BS.

I thought the moment Jobs showed in the keynote the picture of a (running) girl that was shot with iOS new "HDR" feature everyone had realized that it is just post processing and not real HDR with 3 pictures. Or does everyone think that the new iPhone can freeze the world for taking 3 pictures of a running person and then put it together? :D
 
I thought the moment Jobs showed in the keynote the picture of a (running) girl that was shot with iOS new "HDR" feature everyone had realized that it is just post processing and not real HDR with 3 pictures. Or does everyone think that the new iPhone can freeze the world for taking 3 pictures of a running person and then put it together? :D

I thought we'd already shown it was taking 3 photos because there were moving objects which were in different positions in each photo...?

i haven;t tried it yet.


Separately, I will report that my iPod Touch 3rd gen now works fine again with my Alpine car kit. It was almost unusable as I could not browse at anything resembling sensible speed. Now it is fine. Thankfully.
 
My 3G still won't pair with my car's bluetooth, 4G works fine. Have never been able to stream audio over bluetooth.
 
Improves my iPod Touch

Installed the update last night on my 2nd gen iPod Touch and it's fixed a few bugs I was seeing: Music no longer jitters when changing apps and the keyboard is more responsive - it used to pause every time it appeared (felt like the spell checker was at fault).
 
Did you sync and backup prior to doing the upgrade? I know iTunes warns me that some of the apps that I have downloaded have not been synced and will go away if I don't do a back up prior to updating.

Here's an even weirder one. I sync'd, backed up and then updated. Half of my exchange contacts aren't showing up now. I just checked my contacts list through outlook, they're all there.

Weeeeeeeeird.

And no, it doesn't feel any faster on my iPhone3G.
 
well thank you apple




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Right on schedule, Apple has released iOS 4.1 for the iPhone and iPod touch. The update, known as Build 8B117 and available for the iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, and second- and third-generation iPod touch models, brings several new features and fixes.


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As detailed on Apple's site, iOS 4.1 enables the company's Game Center social gaming network (for all iOS 4-compatible devices except iPhone 3G), support for High Dynamic Range (HDR) photos on iPhone 4, and HD video uploading to YouTube and MobileMe for iPhone 4.

The update has also been touted as addressing several high-profile bugs, including proximity sensor issues, performance issues on the iPhone 3G, and Bluetooth problems.

Apple's new fourth-generation iPod touch is shipping with iOS 4.1 already installed. That device has started appearing in stores and on customers' doorsteps today.

Article Link: Apple Releases iOS 4.1 for iPhone and iPod Touch

Downloaded last night and installed and with my 3G 16GB I feel the speed is back to where it was when I first bought this iPhone.

Thank you Apple, now lets move this to the Verizon network. AT&T is NOT doing it in this town.
 
lol

they are the same kind of setting, from the inside of the car to the outside and trying to capture all of it in one

i'll do it again tomorrow just for you

Look, you took a picture on an overcast day. No HDR is going to make that sky blue like in your other example. The Apple HDR pic you posted was originally overexposed and the example with the "Pro HDR" app was underexposed.

When you do take comparison shots again, please make them comparable. It's not nice to rant when your examples don't support you. So, please show us an example where the "Pro HDR" actually IS better than the Apple HDR or just stop.

As far as I can tell, the Apple HDR is better than I expected. It seems to do a fair job at stitching the shots together without introducing unwanted side-effects like the dark halo on the steering wheel of your "Pro HDR" example.
 
Is it just me or do the app icons in the itunes store look better after this update? Before they kind of looked blurry on the iPhone 4 screen until you actually downloaded the app.
 
I just downloaded the update. I use a Sony PC with Windows 7. I used Itunes 9.1.2. The whole process took around 20 minutes. No issues so far. Thats great because these updates scare the crap out of me!
 
HDR photos

HDR photos cannot be taken within the Facebook or Twitter Applications on the iPhone! Also, by turning HDR on, the flash cannot be employed.

Like the quality of the photos though!
 
My testing revealed that iPhone must take more photos than one when performing HRD. I got two images from one shot. One shot had completely blown highlights and the HDR version preserved them. There was detail in the HDR shot that was completely absent in the initial one.

That being said, HDR on iPhone is a pseudo HDR. It preserves the highlights at the expense of the shadow detail. Which is okay, as hightlight and midtone is generally where the action is. But in scenes were it is mostly dark, say a coffee shop interior with a brightly lit open window in the picture, it leaves the darks too filled in. All you need to fix that is iPhone camera software that is capable to lighten it up a bit and you’re golden.

But after all is said and done, if you want good pics, use a good camera. One that runs rings around iPhone capabiliy and delivers what you are after, with greater control at the point of shooting a pic, and at less work to boot.
 
Do you mean it's always there for a JB iPhone? I've never seen it before. How do I get it to display again if it's supposed to be there?

No JB here, and it's always there for me on the main Settings screen, under Notifications. When I'm at home it shows my carrier, Rogers, and one other, Telus's new HSPA network. (Maybe it only shows up if more than one network is detected?)

The only time I ever use it is when choosing among different available networks while roaming. For example, these were the choices at the airport in Frankfurt:

 
I am sooo happy with this update.

I have 2 iPhone 4s and the biggest thing that bothered me is that me and my wife have tons of videos on our phones. Some long clips (30mins) they would crash if I wanted to pause midway. It was sooo easy to replicate this bug. I was waiting for 4.01 to fix it.. nope, then 4.02, nope. Then finally 4.1, all the videos (it takes up 1/2 of my iphone 32GB memory) is running smooth without any crashes so far. Yay!

I was really ticked off when the videos got worse after the new iOS4.0 update. Regretted upgrading on my 2nd gen iPod Touch. It was useless. Nothing worked well and sluggish. I soon got the iPhone 4 thinking that it would solve all the problems thinking that the iOS4 was too hard on the older model, but nope. It was all software issues. Even with my fastest iphone 4, it crashed here and there.

So my point is? 4.1 is feeling like the way it should be before iOS4 came out. Smoother, no crashes, and much more fun!

Also to confirm this, my friend has 3G iPhone and did the updates, and we both noticed substantial improvements on the performance as well. He even has tons of videos as well. All good!
 
since I'm a freelance photographer, I noticed that the HDR feature is very very impressive.
 
oh herro haters:

Unless you are willing/able to do a proper test using the same subject with as close as possible lighting conditions dont bother. Your comparison above is next to useless. It might well be that apples hdr implementation sucks monkey balls, but you have neither proven nor disproven that in your post.


Look, you took a picture on an overcast day. No HDR is going to make that sky blue like in your other example. The Apple HDR pic you posted was originally overexposed and the example with the "Pro HDR" app was underexposed.

When you do take comparison shots again, please make them comparable. It's not nice to rant when your examples don't support you. So, please show us an example where the "Pro HDR" actually IS better than the Apple HDR or just stop.

As far as I can tell, the Apple HDR is better than I expected. It seems to do a fair job at stitching the shots together without introducing unwanted side-effects like the dark halo on the steering wheel of your "Pro HDR" example.

i took all of these today, just now:

Natural camera on iphone:
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Apple's HDR:
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Pro HDR:
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now tell me i havent made my case........
 
oh herro haters:






i took all of these today, just now:

Natural camera on iphone:
2066bde0.jpg


Apple's HDR:
491874c6.jpg


Pro HDR:
a58c0b19.jpg




now tell me i havent made my case........

That's a LOT better. Wish you would have started with that, but now you do have a valid point. Apple is not faking the HDR but Pro HDR does seem to give significantly better results. I still maintain that Apple's HDR is a welcome addition to the basic photographic arsenal of the iPhone.

Out of interest, how long did it take Pro HDR to take and process the photos?
 
That's a LOT better. Wish you would have started with that, but now you do have a valid point. Apple is not faking the HDR but Pro HDR does seem to give significantly better results. I still maintain that Apple's HDR is a welcome addition to the basic photographic arsenal of the iPhone.

Out of interest, how long did it take Pro HDR to take and process the photos?

Well I would have done it yesterday but the Pro HDR kept crashing, which coincidentally enough they issued an updated bug fix one today which allowed me to take it.

Pro HDR takes virtually no time. You can do automatic or manual, I prefer manual so I can click on which area to change the exposure. It snaps them within 3 seconds then overlays them and gives you sliders to mess around with. Shouldn't take more than 8 secs to take the pics and another 5 secs to get the final result.
 
oh herro haters:

now tell me i havent made my case........

Definitely made the case. So what should Apple have called the misnamed HDR? Center-weighted average? Less blow-out? Better than the camera before it? Improved iPhone camera?


Noooo, they say it's HDR. A crock. :p
 
Definitely made the case. So what should Apple have called the misnamed HDR? Center-weighted average? Less blow-out? Better than the camera before it? Improved iPhone camera?


Noooo, they say it's HDR. A crock. :p

It's still HDR, it's just not as good HDR as that of the standalone app. Now, how am I not surprised by that? What manufacturer's standard solutions are better than the standalone ones that cost extra? Remember, Apple gets a cut every time someone buys a copy of Pro HDR.
 
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