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I'm assuming you're using Windows.

My backups literally take about 10 seconds on Windows XP.

As a side note, i updated to 4.3.4 as well.

The nerve of some people to believe that Apple only issued this update to stop jailbreaking.... :rolleyes:
 
Need to set some people straight :rolleyes:

Despite what Apple's EULA and warranty information say, legally, Jailbreaking can NOT void your warranty.

To those who say it does, you need to take a look at the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act and your own state laws.

If you live in California, state law basically prohibits such language from being in any contract such as Apple's EULA.

So no, jailbreaking DOES NOT void your warranty.

Remember people, as much as Apple would like you to believe otherwise, their little click-thru EULA DOES NOT over-ride any State or Federal laws.
 
Analogies aside, I understand that you JB your phone and most likely has the remedy in place already. That said, it's reckless to recommend others to remain vulnerable.

FTR - I support Jailbreaking as a valid solution to this problem. What I don't support is ignoring it.

Vulnerable to what....this hole has existed for some time.

The next version will be IOS5 so updating th 4.3.4 is really not necessary. If apple was so concerned about the issue they have had 4 or 5 releases to fix it and did not do so. Only because of the updated jailbreakme.com release have they now addressed the issue.
 
Vulnerable to what....this hole has existed for some time...

Vulnerable to an exploit that can be used to execute arbitrary code on a device without the users knowledge. By any standard, this is considered an extremely severe issue.
Right now this is used by jailbreakme.com, but this could just as easily be used for malicious means. Especially now that there is a working example of how to deploy code.
It doesn't matter how long the flaw has been around; once Apple was aware of it, they had to act quickly.
As I said, users should either use the Cydia patch or the Apple patch. The worst thing they can do is avoid either.
 
Jailbreak developers will continue to be able to jailbreak whatever new iOS Apple throws out. It's really not the best use of their time, and those with jailbroken iphones can just say on the iOS they have to maintain the jailbreak.

And I thought jailbreaking was legal now anyway?
The jail-breaks stop working because Apple updates the OS. Apple Updates the Os, because there are exploits that are really nasty and can lead to nasty security problems. These exploits get fixes. Apple kind of has to do that because not everybody jailbreaks.

Jailbreaking is really nothing more than a side-effect of really public security flaws that Apple becomes obligated to address ASAP. Nothing more. Trust me. Apple isn't targeting the Jailbreakers perse - it's Apple's fixes that prevent the hacks from working.
 
Yet one more reminder that my verizon phone is at 4.2.x instead of 4.3.x. So lame. I know they're going to bridge the gap with iOS 5 so that AT&T and Verizon are on the same feature set. But comeon.... I don't understand why they have the two branches they're maintaining. It can't be THAT HARD. My only guess is in their desire to remain in secrecy to AT&T around the Verizon iPhone caused issues regarding being able to test and develop the phone for verizon. I dunno, doesn't make sense.
 
But comeon.... I don't understand why they have the two branches they're maintaining.

Looking at how well the sales of an iPhone stuck on 4.2.x are doing, I think you'll find the answer. Not worth the effort for them, there are probably quite a few low-level changes in the system.
 
I'm not buying an ATT phone, I'm buying an apple phone subsidized by ATT for 2 years.
Once the two years is up, I technically own an apple phone that should be able to be used on any GSM network.
However, in the USA, there aren't any other compatible 3G GSM networks. So, it hardly matters what the phone can do, it's what a person can do. Unless a person plans to move to a different country.
 
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I'm curious why Apple hasn't come up with something to prevent jailbreakers from using iTunes, including restoring their jailbroken devices. Some sort of JB detection, maybe hardware-related in the upcoming iPhone 5/iPad 3?
 
Yet one more reminder that my verizon phone is at 4.2.x instead of 4.3.x. So lame. I know they're going to bridge the gap with iOS 5 so that AT&T and Verizon are on the same feature set. But comeon.... I don't understand why they have the two branches they're maintaining. It can't be THAT HARD. My only guess is in their desire to remain in secrecy to AT&T around the Verizon iPhone caused issues regarding being able to test and develop the phone for verizon. I dunno, doesn't make sense.
They did the same thing with the iPad and the iPod Touch - both different products. Think of the CDMA iPhone as a separate product from the GSM iPhone and it makes more sense.

Whenever Apple creates a new product, they temporarily branch the OS off so that development on the main existing products can continue unheeded while they work separately on the new product that requires a different line of development. More obvious when you look at iOS for the iPad being so behind the iPhone OS - Apple just waited until they had the next real big release and targeted to all products instead of trying to do too much work on the separate forks. Yes, it means that one product will be more behind, but it probably means more consistency and better development down the road.

As to why the CDMA iPhone never got 4.3, my Guess is that Apple was already plotting 5.0 by the time that the CDMA iPhone was in the final stages and the timelines didn't match up enough. At that point waiting for the next big update just made more sense.
 
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I'm curious why Apple hasn't come up with something to prevent jailbreakers from using iTunes, including restoring their jailbroken devices. Some sort of JB detection, maybe hardware-related in the upcoming iPhone 5/iPad 3?

Apple actually benefits from the jailbreaking community as it a) identifies security holes that Apple needs to fix b) furthers iOS development (i.e., notification system) and c) keeps customers that would have otherwise migrated to Android.
 
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I'm curious why Apple hasn't come up with something to prevent jailbreakers from using iTunes, including restoring their jailbroken devices. Some sort of JB detection, maybe hardware-related in the upcoming iPhone 5/iPad 3?
Well they just don't do it,because people will be mad and no more devices will be sold..(my opinion)
 
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Most definitely your opinion.
 
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Most definitely your opinion.
 
Works fine for me.

I avoid PDF files anywhere and everywhere possible, so my risk was very low anyway.

Oh, and as for jailbreaking, I'm an agnostic. I don't practice it, but I understand the need for it.
 
So if I jailbroke with Cydia last week, can I just update to 4.3.4 and send my phone back to Apple Jail just fine? I won't brick it or anything? I have made no changes since jailbreaking.
 
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