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Ah, yes. The typical Apple forum post where the person claims to never had a single issue and declares that anyone that does MUST be lying or that they really don't own an Apple device. You people are the most annoying people on Apple sites. iOS 8 and the problems that come with it are very well known, you are not the typical use case. iOS 8 is a completely garbage ridden update that still should be listed as an alpha, much less a beta. Matter of fact, it shouldn't have been released at all because of all the BS bugs it contains.

Not everybody experiences the same issues due to what apps are installed and the way the phone is used.

My logs are relatively clean since IOS 8.1.1. Maybe 6 issues in total in a month and I spent a lot of time on my phone. Landscape to portrait was a frustration in 8.1.1; cut and paste in 8.1.1 also so. They weren't deal breakers though. No reboots, resprings, wifi was mostly fixed on 8.1.1.

8.1.2 seemed to have fixed the above mentioned. Phone is snappier, cut and paste works. I don't really care about some of the little stuff that seems to drive people bonkers.
 
To be honest, none of the problems above exist on my iPhone 6.
1. Crashing. What crashing???
2. Safari tab switching. Smooth as butter.
3. White text overlaying the black status bar text. Never seen that.
4. Rotating video glitches. Rotating video is a bit slow and stop the playback, but once rotated and resumed, it's fine.
5. reachability not activating. Never had that problem.
6. Touch ID dialog screen sometimes freezes up. Never seen that even once.
7. iCloud Photo Library that has never worked. I start to think you are using Samsung at this point :eek:
8. shoddy WiFi issues on the Air 2. Nada. Are you even serious?
9. problems with slow-mo videos sometimes not recording in slow-mo. I gave up, all the problems listed are either very circumstantial or you just created them.
10. share sheets sometimes still lose the order I've set the icons to. :confused:

Everything works fine on the 6. But the 6+ there a few issues that needs fixing.
 
Ah, yes. The typical Apple forum post where the person claims to never had a single issue and declares that anyone that does MUST be lying or that they really don't own an Apple device. You people are the most annoying people on Apple sites. iOS 8 and the problems that come with it are very well known, you are not the typical use case. iOS 8 is a completely garbage ridden update that still should be listed as an alpha, much less a beta. Matter of fact, it shouldn't have been released at all because of all the BS bugs it contains.

As opposed to another typical post of doom and gloom and that it's all horrible and that it applies to everyone and those who are actually using iOS 8 just fine are just liars. Yeah, those are clearly more meaningful and useful posts. :rolleyes:
 
Sometimes I wonder if Apple just has to much going on, like maybe they have went to far in on something that is clearly getting the best of them. Perhaps new management or something will do the trick, but heads should be rolling soon...one would think. I wonder if Tim Cook has anything to do with this (all the major problems with IOS8)? Maybe a power struggle is happening at Apple to do one thing and the other side says no, do this. Who knows.. IDK, but something has got to give or people like myself, can only stay so loyal for so long. I wonder what moral is like at the office. This just doesn't seem like Apple.

I can't imagine all the teams at Apple aren't pulling their own weight. I would like to know what is the problem at it's core and who's responsibility it is. They have so many companies going at the same time, you would think they, or at least most of the teams are doing what they are supposed to be doing. I wonder what the main problem is that is causing such a mess with iPhone 6?Plus rollout and it OS/Updates? Who is at the controllers saying yes or no and ultimately causing a semi-meltdown over at Apple? What do you all think?
 
Installed 8.1.2 on both my devices (iPad 4 and 5s) via OTA. Updates were smooth. Since the initial release of iOS 8, the updates are getting progressively better. At least in my case.
 
Sometimes I wonder if Apple just has to much going on, like maybe they have went to far in on something that is clearly getting the best of them. Perhaps new management or something will do the trick, but heads should be rolling soon...one would think. I wonder if Tim Cook has anything to do with this (all the major problems with IOS8)? Maybe a power struggle is happening at Apple to do one thing and the other side says no, do this. Who knows.. IDK, but something has got to give or people like myself, can only stay so loyal for so long. I wonder what moral is like at the office. This just doesn't seem like Apple.

I can't imagine all the teams at Apple aren't pulling their own weight. I would like to know what is the problem at it's core and who's responsibility it is. They have so many companies going at the same time, you would think they, or at least most of the teams are doing what they are supposed to be doing. I wonder what the main problem is that is causing such a mess with iPhone 6?Plus rollout and it OS/Updates? Who is at the controllers saying yes or no and ultimately causing a semi-meltdown over at Apple? What do you all think?

@macfoxpro - well said Sir! With Apple being one of the worlds most valuable brands one would surely think it's product range and operating system would be close to flawless considering the resources available.

In anticipation of a final ios 8 fix we loyally sit and wait......... :confused:
 
Holy Jeez .... I hope you get that sorted out, man.
WTF, Apple. I mean, really: WTF?!?

As was said here earlier, Apple severely needs a "Snow Leopard-ing" of iOS.
Never mind having a shiny new iOS to keynote at every WDC.
Just announce one year that you're continuously working to make iOS 8
as rock solid stable as humanly possible.

But, since iOS is on the 2016 trajectory
[i.e., iOS 10/X+OS X=the merging into a single devicewide OS,
to coincide with the opening of the new Apple HQ] this, unfortunately, won't happen.

Long-time Apple user - this is my first iPhone glitch. I downloaded the update again and reinstalled, but no success: can't use phone or messages :(
 
Installed 8.1.2 on both my devices (iPad 4 and 5s) via OTA. Updates were smooth. Since the initial release of iOS 8, the updates are getting progressively better. At least in my case.

Wish I could say the same...the upgrade (on my iPad "4") went smoothly via OTA, but iOS 8 is still buggy and a RAM hog/mismanager.
 
It's true little bugs come with new major updates, but iOS 8 has had more stupid bugs than all other releases combined. My 5S shows the status bar when viewing photos for cripes sake, and when I go back to the springboard the text is white on a white background. Little stupid bugs like that tell me that Apple has absolutely no interest in doing any kind of QA, they just want to push out updates and claim there are 100 new features every year. Apple needs to stop issuing major releases for at least a year and actually hire people to do QA and testing because iOS 8 is steadily getting worse every year. In my opinion iOS 8 still shouldn't be released to the public because it's so bad. I've had Safari crash my entire phone back to rebooting multiple times simply because I've had about 5 tabs open and when switching the entire phone crashes. I'd be willing to bet that if Apple actually spent a little bit of those billions they are sitting on and included more than a paltry gig of RAM in these devices they'd have much better performance. RAM is a huge limiting factor in iOS now and Apple is content to not only do nothing about that, they are selling phones with a piss poor 16gb to try and subtly force people into buying a more expensive phone.

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Kind of hard to do that when you're committed to a two year phone contract, or are you living in an alternate version of reality?

Man you rant a lot...

BTW, I deal with Apple devices all day from Ipad 2 to Ipad Air from 3GS to 6+ and I don't think I've seen that big list of problems across all the devices in 5 years!! Seriously, its like you're collating directly from the bug list and not having those bugs yourself.

BTW, Android and Windows have had many hundreds of bugs in the last year (I've seen their bug list for the year, the Windows 8.1 is pretty impressive all by itself... ) and those versions were supposedly mature 4.* and 8.* By the time 8.3 hits in february, IOS will be more mature than a 2 year old Windows and Android software.

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Wish I could say the same...the upgrade (on my iPad "4") went smoothly via OTA, but iOS 8 is still buggy and a RAM hog/mismanager.

It runs a powerful OS in 1G and its a RAM mis manager!! I could understand thinking that of Safari (there has been plenty of bitching about that), but not IOS.

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Long-time Apple user - this is my first iPhone glitch. I downloaded the update again and reinstalled, but no success: can't use phone or messages :(

Even if you reinstall your old version from backup? That's strange. I could undurstand maybe a new version not working, but a backup should work. Is it possible that this update kind of revealed a latent hardware issue?
 
Sometimes I wonder if Apple just has to much going on, like maybe they have went to far in on something that is clearly getting the best of them. Perhaps new management or something will do the trick, but heads should be rolling soon...one would think. I wonder if Tim Cook has anything to do with this (all the major problems with IOS8)? Maybe a power struggle is happening at Apple to do one thing and the other side says no, do this. Who knows.. IDK, but something has got to give or people like myself, can only stay so loyal for so long. I wonder what moral is like at the office. This just doesn't seem like Apple.

I can't imagine all the teams at Apple aren't pulling their own weight. I would like to know what is the problem at it's core and who's responsibility it is. They have so many companies going at the same time, you would think they, or at least most of the teams are doing what they are supposed to be doing. I wonder what the main problem is that is causing such a mess with iPhone 6?Plus rollout and it OS/Updates? Who is at the controllers saying yes or no and ultimately causing a semi-meltdown over at Apple? What do you all think?

Apple always used to say:
1) "We don't pay any attention to what our competition is doing."
2) "We focus on making the best products that we can. If we do that, the bottom line will take care of itself."

Apple still says these things, but I don't think they really mean them anymore. I remember when they said that they wouldn't participate in Macworld anymore after the 2008 MacBook Air intro because it made them feel pressure to have a major new product every January. Apple also delayed Leopard to finish up the initial iPhone OS. THAT's an Apple that works on its own timetable, a "ship when it's ready" philosophy. It also proves that it's difficult to manage simultaneous releases of iOS and OS X.

Today, they're feeling the squeeze--from Google, from bully major shareholders and manipulative analysts, from naysayers who contest that innovation died with Jobs, and simply by virtue of being on top. I think the "old" Apple better withstood external pressures.

The "new" Apple moved the OS X development cycle from 18+ months to 12, and the problem is, the public releases are feeling like a product that's 12 months into an 18-month development cycle. Apple now also have the pressure of releasing a major new version of iOS with hundreds of new features in time for their annual iOS hardware releases. I think the iPhone 6 and iPad Air 2 are outstanding; the software that breathes life into them, however, is just not ready for primetime.

Apple also now seems more affable. Look at their keynotes. There's more jokes and banter than ever before. And I think that that factored into key and questionable personnel decisions. I think a major reason that they fired Forstall is the fact that the work environment was joyless with a whip-cracker like that around. I think Apple needs a leader like that, though. Sure the Maps debacle occurred under his watch--and that was grievous--but I can name many more widespread problems since iOS 7 than I can from iPhone Software 1.0 all the way through iOS 6. Meanwhile, a QA manager for the initial Maps release wasn't fired, but instead moved to lead QA for iOS--look at how well that went (iOS 8.0.1, HealthKit, etc). Maybe he tells good jokes and says he's "sowry" when he screws up. That's not to mention that a lot of really good talent has voluntarily left Apple in recent years--that usually portends nothing good.

In my opinion, Apple needs to either a) scale back how ambitious each new version of iOS and OS X will be so that they can ship a stable product every 12 months or b) shift to 18-24-month development cycles.

I find it hard to believe that they see a problem though (or much care), since they sell things as fast as they can make them, and most of their users are casual, so they're not exposed to these problems (How many iOS users wonder why their phone doesn't ring because they don't know about the mute switch? Google it if you don't believe me. These not-exactly-power-users aren't going to notice horrible bugs that fester in the nooks and crannies.) Even Tim Cook says that he uses iPad "80% of the time." A CEO should use the hell out of EVERYTHING. Find those nook-and-cranny monsters. I'd bet they'd get exterminated then.
 
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This definitely sounds like a Scooby Doo episode:

Scooby Doo in the Mystery of the Missing Ringtone

There has been so much effort to get the live action CGI Scooby Doo out as a regular TV series. I hope it comes about.
 
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Even if you reinstall your old version from backup? That's strange. I could undurstand maybe a new version not working, but a backup should work. Is it possible that this update kind of revealed a latent hardware issue?[/QUOTE]

I'm back! I had to do a complete Factory Erase on the phone, and then restore from my latest iCloud backup - but everything is back to normal now. Phew! I think my 4S might know that I've snuck an iPhone 6 under the Xmas tree ;)
 
Screen rotation bug remains. Great job Apple. Big fixes one release at a time...nice!

Clicked to post the exact same thing. Who gives a crap about ringtones? I just want to read my texts and emails without the rotation bug.
 
Too bad they have to increment the entire OS one version number for a single, small fix.

Is that a real problem for you ? :confused:

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Does this fix the fact my iPhone 6+ reboots every couple of minutes?

Do you realize your iPhone is defective?

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Only 28mb and requires a wifi connection to download. That is ridiculous!

People complains for the sake of complaining.
That is because data on a mobile network are more prone to be corrupted compared with Wi-Fi.
That's for YOUR safety.
 
You know what's sad? I used to love software updates. I was one of those people who upgraded everything the second it was released for years. Today, however, with Apple's lately buggy offerings and bad updates (like the recent Safari updated and iOS 8.0.1) I now wait a while. How things have changed...it just doesn't work.

Or downloading a 350mb files for "minor bug fix" , only to have another "minor bug fix" next week
 
That is because data on a mobile network are more prone to be corrupted compared with Wi-Fi.
That's for YOUR safety.

Bah! Safety, schmafety ....
I'm a big boy: let me decide how I wanna download something, godammit!

By "disallowing" LTE, was coerced into using my iPad Air's "Personal Hotspot" mode,
something I don't like doing, in order to aquire 8.1.2.
 
Apple always used to say:
1) "We don't pay any attention to what our competition is doing."
2) "We focus on making the best products that we can. If we do that, the bottom line will take care of itself."

Apple still says these things, but I don't think they really mean them anymore. I remember when they said that they wouldn't participate in Macworld anymore after the 2008 MacBook Air intro because it made them feel pressure to have a major new product every January. Apple also delayed Leopard to finish up the initial iPhone OS. THAT's an Apple that works on its own timetable, a "ship when it's ready" philosophy. It also proves that it's difficult to manage simultaneous releases of iOS and OS X.

Today, they're feeling the squeeze--from Google, from bully major shareholders and manipulative analysts, from naysayers who contest that innovation died with Jobs, and simply by virtue of being on top. I think the "old" Apple better withstood external pressures.

The "new" Apple moved the OS X development cycle from 18+ months to 12, and the problem is, the public releases are feeling like a product that's 12 months into an 18-month development cycle. Apple now also have the pressure of releasing a major new version of iOS with hundreds of new features in time for their annual iOS hardware releases. I think the iPhone 6 and iPad Air 2 are outstanding; the software that breathes life into them, however, is just not ready for primetime.

Apple also now seems more affable. Look at their keynotes. There's more jokes and banter than ever before. And I think that that factored into key and questionable personnel decisions. I think a major reason that they fired Forstall is the fact that the work environment was joyless with a whip-cracker like that around. I think Apple needs a leader like that, though. Sure the Maps debacle occurred under his watch--and that was grievous--but I can name many more widespread problems since iOS 7 than I can from iPhone Software 1.0 all the way through iOS 6. Meanwhile, a QA manager for the initial Maps release wasn't fired, but instead moved to lead QA for iOS--look at how well that went (iOS 8.0.1, HealthKit, etc). Maybe he tells good jokes and says he's "sowry" when he screws up. That's not to mention that a lot of really good talent has voluntarily left Apple in recent years--that usually portends nothing good.

In my opinion, Apple needs to either a) scale back how ambitious each new version of iOS and OS X will be so that they can ship a stable product every 12 months or b) shift to 18-24-month development cycles.

I find it hard to believe that they see a problem though (or much care), since they sell things as fast as they can make them, and most of their users are casual, so they're not exposed to these problems (How many iOS users wonder why their phone doesn't ring because they don't know about the mute switch? Google it if you don't believe me. These not-exactly-power-users aren't going to notice horrible bugs that fester in the nooks and crannies.) Even Tim Cook says that he uses iPad "80% of the time." A CEO should use the hell out of EVERYTHING. Find those nook-and-cranny monsters. I'd bet they'd get exterminated then.

4 was a DISASTER. Made all phones crawl, even the 1 year old 3GS! Maybe you need a memory refresh ;-).
 
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