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Apple Releases iOS 8.4 With Apple Music, Beats 1, and Revamped Music App

apparently this was posted in another thread.. we shall see :rolleyes:

"someone in another thread saying they heard that Apple announced iTunes 12.2 would be released 2pm Pacific Time."
 
basical said:
People are complaining about slow Apple Music on twitter.
My 1GB update now says 1 day and 20 hours.
Anyone experiencing problems with iCloud?
This is really stupid. Crashing everything for a stupid radioshow and streaming business that's slow and glitchy. Fail.
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No slowness for me. Tracks start immediately. No problems at all except for various bugs in the playlist editor - but once the playlist is in place, everything is played as if I had the music locally on my iPad.

And I would claim that practically everyone who updated today updated for Apple Music. Anyone who doesn't care about a "stupid radioshow and streaming business" is updating for near-to-nothing.
 
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basical said:
Maybe they're waiting with the iTunes update because Apple Music and Beat1 is using all their servers and bandwidth, or something? Picture related: Hope this is temporary and downloading El Capitan will be smooth sailing.
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Apple and online, bad combination. Google would have done this with eas.
 
Michael Goff said:
So the new update should only allow developers to test their apps? Guess they didn't need to include a new Safari, then, since Safari isn't needed to test apps and check for bugs in the API. ;)
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there's a reason, Safari is included in the iOS-simulator. I'm running El Capitan mostly so I can already incorporate the new Safari features for current projects, so I don't have to put them in later.

Pushing out an update like that is a lot of work, it'll come to iOS9 soon, but it isn't and shouldn't be a priority. Imagine iOS9 was updated, but still no iTunes. People here would freak out.
 
Anyone try AppleMUSIC on iPad yet? I seem to be confused why the iPad version does not have the "NEW" or the "FOR YOU" tabs on the bottom... What is this, iPhone only features?
 
I've had Beats 1 playing in the background since launch and I'm yet to hear a single song I actually like/have actually heard of. Surely for a "Pop" station, they should be playing some, you know, popular music..

The presenters are a bit naff too
 
MentalFloss said:
No slowness for me. Tracks start immediately. No problems at all except for various bugs in the playlist editor - but once the playlist is in place, everything is played as if I had the music locally on my iPad.

And I would claim that practically everyone who updated today updated for Apple Music. Anyone who doesn't care about a "stupid radioshow and streaming business" is updating for near-to-nothing.
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Location? Europe here. Maybe if you live in the states or in California you get priority.
 
Allewsive said:
Anyone try AppleMUSIC on iPad yet? I seem to be confused why the iPad version does not have the "NEW" or the "FOR YOU" tabs on the bottom... What is this, iPhone only features?
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Sounds like you're not subscribed to AM with the account you're logged into iTunes with on the iPad.
 
johngordon said:
I guess it could be set up so that you could have songs in playlists that aren't also in My Music, but isn't the whole point (currently at least) that playlists contain music from your library. So something can be in My Music, but not a playlist, but anything in a playlist has to come from My Music?
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Yes, that is the core of the problem. Apparently, Apple only lets you playlist songs that are in your library. So if you add a song to your playlist, it is added to your library.

Forever.

Not quite sure yet if that is a bug or a feature, something to love or something to hate. As I said in another post, I do create some "silly" playlists (like the top 50 songs of a specific year) for fun and nostalgia, but it doesn't mean that I want all of these artists to appear in my library. In fact, it is kinda pointless to even have a library now in the first place. A library is really a pre-streaming kind of concept. Now my library is "all songs on iTunes".
 
MalcolmJID said:
I've been a Spotify user for a while, so I'm just trialling Apple Music for now. On Spotify, you can make a playlist with songs and they don't show up in the "My Music" section. The only things that show up there are things you specifically "save". You then get the choice to make them available offline.
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I can't tell if you want that feature or not?

I added a song that I know I don't have locally to an existing playlist of local music that I have. In My Music, it's been added to the playlist. But if I take my phone offline, that particular song disappears because I have not made it available offline. You can also choose to show just the music you have saved locally, regardless of if you're online or not. My Music >Library > drop down the menu under Recently Added.

If you make a new playlist of Apple Music (non local) available offline, it will only download the songs you have in there at that time. Anything you add to it have to manually make available offline, which doesn't seem right. It should automatically be made available offline if that playlist is marked as available offline.


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The 'For You' section was a nightmare to fill in on my iPhone 4s. When you increased the size of one of the bubbles you couldn't move it past the centre point anymore.

Apple, probably best to test your UI and UX on all supported devices sizes in the future.
 
Does anyone experience issues with their iPhone after 8.4 update? So far 2 other people at my work have had this issue too.

I was listening to Beats 1 for about 20 minutes then left the app. About an hour later, my phone starts playing beats music. So I quit the app again and lowered the volume to 0. Short time later, it starts playing again. WTF..
 
Allewsive said:
Anyone try AppleMUSIC on iPad yet? I seem to be confused why the iPad version does not have the "NEW" or the "FOR YOU" tabs on the bottom... What is this, iPhone only features?
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Those tabs are there for me on my iPad, but I signed up on my iPhone and had to shut down the iPad music app before it recognized me as a member.
 
zerolight said:
If you are having issues with family sharing, I certainly was, it could be because you're other half is using your email address on the iTunes or AppStore. To get family sharing to work in my case, I had to log my wife out of iTunes and AppStore and login as herself, then I actually had to try to buy Family Sharing on her account (I didn't complete the purchase) and in the process it asked if I wanted to transfer the device (her phone) to her apple id (which it was already registered for and was using her id for iCloud already). I said yes, followed some security prompts and cancelled the purchase. Killed the Music app and re-opened it, and it prompted her to join the family share. Convoluted? Yes.
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And now you can make playlists for each of you which don't show up on the other account?
 
klapperstrauss said:
there's a reason, Safari is included in the iOS-simulator. I'm running El Capitan mostly so I can already incorporate the new Safari features for current projects, so I don't have to put them in later.

Pushing out an update like that is a lot of work, it'll come to iOS9 soon, but it isn't and shouldn't be a priority. Imagine iOS9 was updated, but still no iTunes. People here would freak out.
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Hence why I made the comment about wishing they had waited until today to update the iOS 9 beta. I don't expect one this week since they updated it last week. But if they had waited...

Edit: Safari was a bad example. iCloud app being a thing, maybe, would have been better.
 
E3BK said:
I can't tell if you want that feature or not?

I added a song that I know I don't have locally to an existing playlist that I have. In My Music, it's been added to the playlist. But if I take my phone offline, that particular song disappears because I have not made it available offline. You can also choose to show just the music you have saved locally, regardless of if you're online or not. My Music >Library > drop down the menu under Recently Added.

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Sorry, I could have explained better. I don't want the feature where anything I add to a playlist shows under "My Music". I like the fact these two entities are treated separately in Spotify:

* If I add a song to a playlist, it's just in that playlist; it doesn't show up in "Your Music"
* If I "save" an album, it goes to "Your Music".

I'd want the same behaviour in Apple Music, because now, if I made a compilation playlist with many artists, those artists will show up under "My Music" and it is getting cluttered very, very quickly.
 
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Yes, that is the core of the problem. Apparently, Apple only lets you playlist songs that are in your library. So if you add a song to your playlist, it is added to your library.

Forever.

Not quite sure yet if that is a bug or a feature, something to love or something to hate. As I said in another post, I do create some "silly" playlists (like the top 50 songs of a specific year) for fun and nostalgia, but it doesn't mean that I want all of these artists to appear in my library. In fact, it is kinda pointless to even have a library now in the first place. A library is really a pre-streaming kind of concept. Now my library is "all songs on iTunes".
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Although I understand your point, I don't fully agree. It's still very handy to have a subset of tracks available through these streaming library services, sort of walled off. Those are the songs and artists that you listen to the most. It's one way (of many) of identifying with music and artists, something that has been lost through napster/torrents/a-la-carte download services.
 
1. No King Crimson in Apple Music (so not the whole iTunes shop offer available).
2. Tidal sounds better, unfortunately (comparing Accept's "Son of a Bitch" and Franz Ferdinand's "The Dark of the Matinee").
 
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