Apple Releases iOS 8.4 With Apple Music, Beats 1, and Revamped Music App

[klapperstrauss]

Do we have any idea of an estimate on the data usage for streaming Apple Music?

256 Kb per second (plus some overhead, technically). So a 3 minute song should be around 6 MB. It caches the songs, though, so if you listen to a song often, it will only be downloaded once. (and then again if the cache decides that it needs more space and deletes it, so it'll be downloaded again.) If you chose to make a song (or album) available for offline listening, it'll be downloaded right then, and it won't be deleted automatically. If you have low bandwidth cap, it helps to download your most listened to songs via wifi.

It's less than Spotify, though.

 

[MentalFloss]

Wow... I only just noticed that feature... based on every artist, album or song in your library, you get a "Start Station" option which starts a radio station based on (I assume) "similar" songs. Obviously not human-curated, but with interesting suggestions nonetheless.

I wish I had a few weeks of free time on my hand to play around with this. There's so much stuff to discover and rediscover, and so far, the new Music app and the whole environment is making it quite easy to get lost in this (in a positive way). My hat is off to Apple. They sure know how to handle music.

 

[riverfreak]

iTunes Match lets you keep the music it gives you. While Apple Music only lets you keep the music as long as you have your subscription.

And: what of your music that you purchased earlier that was NOT matched but instead uploaded and stored in Apple Music? Is there an easy way to identify that and download it en masse at a later date?

 

[malnar]

1. No King Crimson in Apple Music.

Not a surprise. They've been resistant to going digital for as long as iTunes has existed. I was shocked that they've even released some albums via iTunes recently. But I would have been more shocked to find it available through Apple Music. Luckily, I own everything and already have it available in iTunes Match. I think they're shooting themselves in the foot, personally, but I do understand why they aren't doing it. I just don't think keeping music off of Apple Music is going to encourage people to go out and buy it.

 

[MentalFloss]

Norway. I think it's a bug. It went up to 3 days, but it just finished.
I'm relieved to have been wrong. Wonder why then they don't release iTunes 12.2 yet.

My guess is that they want to even out server load a bit. This is one of the most anticipated updates ever.

 

[Lars Petersen]

Anyone else missing the "For you" tab? I just see the music i bought over the years. And some radio stations. That's it.

 

[DMaki650]

And: what of your music that you purchased earlier that was NOT matched but instead uploaded and stored in Apple Music? Is there an easy way to identify that and download it en masse at a later date?

Music that is purchased is always in the cloud. You can actually see it when you turn the feature on in iTunes. Under view, it's called "Show Music in the Cloud." Or by going in to the purchased section in the iTunes store.

 

[MentalFloss]

Although I understand your point, I don't fully agree. It's still very handy to have a subset of tracks available through these streaming library services, sort of walled off. Those are the songs and artists that you listen to the most. It's one way (of many) of identifying with music and artists, something that has been lost through napster/torrents/a-la-carte download services.

I agree absolutely. That makes sense. But then I wouldn't want Kenny Rogers in there just because he's in my "Top 50 of 1981" playlist. He doesn't make me reach for the skip button, but he's certainly not one of my favs by a long shot.

 

[spytech]

I've had Beats 1 playing in the background since launch and I'm yet to hear a single song I actually like/have actually heard of. Surely for a "Pop" station, they should be playing some, you know, popular music..

The presenters are a bit naff too

This is not a "Pop" station, it was never intended to be such, and I hope it will never be, we have enough of those. And in my country you either have news stations, pop stations, dance pop stations, or you take your phone and listen to radio online.

Beats 1 Radio is about quality music, independently of the genre, and that was exactly what I've heard in the 1,5hrs I was connected listening after launch, and I hope it stays this way. I've only heard 2/3 songs similar to what I usually hear, but I pretty much enjoyed everything they played. The first generalist radio I actually liked...

 

[MentalFloss]

Anyone else missing the "For you" tab? I just see the music i bought over the years. And some radio stations. That's it.

It was like that for me on my iPad at the beginning. I had to go to the "Music" section in "Settings". There, I turned off "Show Apple Music", killed the Music app and turned "Show Apple Music" on again. Then, the whole streaming-related stuff appeared.

Didn't work for others though. YMMV.

 

[whsbuss]

How do you delete a created radio station?

 

[Superhai]

First name is free, last name is dumb... surely haven't heard this before...

 

[MalakasCrew]

How do you delete a created radio station?

It's on your Apple Id now. You need to go to the Apple shop down the street and get one of these Apple geniuses from there to fix it for you.

 

[basical]

iTunes song download is fast. OS X update is slow it even got canceled two times. They are doing something.

 

[whsbuss]

It's on your Apple Id now.

Where do I find that in the app?

 

[psylence2k]

Are the interviews and sessions on Beat 1 recorded and accessible somewhere if you didn't catch them live ?

and how do I access Beats 1/Apple Music on OS X (Mac Itunes). I dont see it. Is it just a mobile roll out for now ?

 

[MentalFloss]

Are the interviews and sessions on Beat 1 recorded and accessible somewhere if you didn't catch them live ?

and how do I access Beats 1/Apple Music on OS X (Mac Itunes). I dont see it. Is it just a mobile roll out for now ?

Yes, the iTunes update isn't out yet. Last information from "sources" is a rollout at 2pm Pacific Time.

 

[riverfreak]

I agree absolutely. That makes sense. But then I wouldn't want Kenny Rogers in there just because he's in my "Top 50 of 1981" playlist. He doesn't make me reach for the skip button, but he's certainly not one of my favs by a long shot.

I understand. I have a bunch of playlists on spotify, too. I certainly don't want most of those one-off artists showing up in my personal favorites/library listing.

I do hope that Apple Music helps in the discovery process. My favorite thing used to be sitting down and reading all the liner notes on albums and CDs. I would do that peridiocally even just listening to them at a later date.

 

[flipshot]

and how do I access Beats 1/Apple Music on OS X (Mac Itunes). I dont see it. Is it just a mobile roll out for now ?

You need iTunes 12.2 which isn't out yet, Apple say its coming soon. Should hopefully be today unless there has been some sort of problem.

 

[MalakasCrew]

and how do I access Beats 1/Apple Music on OS X (Mac Itunes). I dont see it. Is it just a mobile roll out for now ?

You need to install new itunes, then it shows Apple Music

 

[BeamWalker]

I wish they had a better more itunes Store like interface. Also I wish they would abandon the album centric organization. I rarely listen to music an album at a time.

 

[johngordon]

I've been a Spotify user for a while, so I'm just trialling Apple Music for now. On Spotify, you can make a playlist with songs and they don't show up in the "My Music" section. The only things that show up there are things you specifically "save". You then get the choice to make them available offline.

It might be something that made sense initially to Spotify, because they were approaching it as a new model, whereas Apple is coming rom the historical thing where playlists would always be made up of tracks from your own library.

I think it makes a lot of sense to do it as you suggest though - for example, I might like a playlist made of Ibiza / chill out type music that I could add odd individual tracks to as I stumble across them.

But not want them to clutter up My Music, as that's where I might typically go to listen to full albums.

 

[0970373]

Apple and online, bad combination. Google would have done this with eas.

Well that's because every handset isn't updated at the same time. You could be waiting anywhere from 1 day to 6 months for an updated OS from the manufacturer.

 

[jimbo1mcm]

Where is Itunes 12.2????

 

[mattburley7]

Where is Itunes 12.2????

coming soon for the 8th million time