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Damn them in spayeds. I hope it didn't break iClawed. I am not amewsed. Litterally.

I hope not, but this is the new Appaw, so a catastrophic failure is pawsible. For cat's sake, they need to stop with the constant updates, my phone is out of meomory!
 
[doublepost=1470332002][/doublepost]I got an error saying This Device isn't Eligible for the Requested Build. iPhone 6 64GB. The software downloaded and tried to install then the error popped. any ideas?

That happened to me as well.

Strange, the OTA update was uneventful.

But now I wonder what, if any, residue is left from my first attempt, and if that file can/should be deleted. If so, what is its name & location?

Or, would that be something that is kept in cache or some such, and auto deletes upon restart, or perhaps if OnyX clears the System cache?

Please some kind soul, your thoughts most welcome.
 
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Also: not Apple's fault you waited until yesterday to rev to 9.3.3. :D

I wanted to wait until the very last patch to update and get it over with. After a while, I thought it was the last one. I was wrong :D
 
Or when Safari will feel zippier on one :)

I actually find Safari runs fine for me. But, nothing to compare it to.
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Well, their phones getting "bricked" is almost entirely false, unless a miracle has occurred and the software has managed to melt the internals of their phone.

Installed on 3 iPhone 6s' and 2 iPads (2 and Air 2). All 5 devices installed without a single hiccup. Everything is working just fine.

BTW you can't brick an iOS device with just software. A DFU restore will 'unbrick' any iOS device. Only way a device will be bricked is if the software update creates a hardware problem, which is extremely unlikely. It would just be bad luck and off timing as the hardware was probably going to fail anyway.

Agreed, people use brick to freely. Technically it is something you can't recover from like the hardware issue. Very hard to truly brick iOS or Android. Some will use the term Soft Brick if a recoverable issue.

Might add in Android JTAG is a method to unbrick. Not sure of the equivalent in iOS. But, JTAG is unconventional and not for beginners.
 
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Any guarantee Apple will let anyone know before it releases the iOS update with the secret government backdoor that the government ordered them not to tell anyone about? And will they then open up downgrades to previous, non-backdoored iOS versions?
 
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So they spent 1 month to beta test 9.3 3 and 1 week to patch it.
A month for a planned release with multiple fixes/changes, and a much shorter time for a security patch related to a single issue.
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Any guarantee Apple will let anyone know before it releases the iOS update with the secret government backdoor that the government ordered them not to tell anyone about? And will they then open up downgrades to previous, non-backdoored iOS versions?
No guarantees that they aren't already listening and watching everything through pretty much any electronic device.
 
No guarantees that they aren't already listening and watching everything through pretty much any electronic device.

That sounds mean! Lying, crooked Tim Cook! We're going to make Apple great again! We're going to build a walled garden, and we're going to make the NSA pay for it!
 
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That sounds mean! Lying, crooked Tim Cook! We're going to make Apple great again! We're going to build a walled garden, and we're going to make the NSA pay for it!

You didn't get the memo???

Apple is a shell company. A subsidiary of the NSA. Its sole mission is to sell massive amounts of technology designed by the NSA so that the NSA can listen and watch everything we do on our devices.

There's a reason Apple is so secretive about their plans.

All the public court stuff is just to protect the image and make it look like the government is fighting with Apple.

The lack of recent innovation and forward motion in their product lines is also very government like. Ever watch road construction projects??? See any similarities???

Ohh... By the way... The NSA saw what you did last night... You really should turn off your phone when you do that. Time to head to the hills before they catch you. Watch out for the tree cameras :p:D:cool:
 
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Not being able to use the context menu properly in apps like Outlook, Evernote, WeChat, CloudMagic, basically every app using Web View is a bad bug that costs me time and nerves every single day.

Please walk into an Apple Store of your choice, open an Evernote document and select text to copy it. Won't work on your first try.

I work a lot with text and can't use Apple's mail app because it doesn't work properly with gmail in China. Apple doesn't care. Third party apps show the above described bug. Apple doesn't care. The support acknowledges the problem but doesn't have ways to tell the engineers.

Appalling seems the right word.

Cheers.

Not all bugs get fixed. It's basically the reality. It's not great or even good, but certainly far from appalling or anything like that (short of it being some really bad bug).
 
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Not being able to use the context menu properly in apps like Outlook, Evernote, WeChat, CloudMagic, basically every app using Web View is a bad bug that costs me time and nerves every single day.

Please walk into an Apple Store of your choice, open an Evernote document and select text to copy it. Won't work on your first try.

I work a lot with text and can't use Apple's mail app because it doesn't work properly with gmail in China. Apple doesn't care. Third party apps show the above described bug. Apple doesn't care. The support acknowledges the problem but doesn't have ways to tell the engineers.

Appalling seems the right word.

Cheers.
It's a bug, it's hardly anything even close to being critical or major or even of much consequence. It doesn't mean that it's not a bug and something that shouldn't be fixed, just that given all kinds of other bugs that exist and its impact the priority is likely a low one for something like that. Not uncommon at all for all kinds of software from all kinds of companies. Just the reality of it all, nothing more, nothing less.
 
How is this not a critical bug? Imagine working with a text editor and you can't reliably copy text. The same goes for email clients and the number 1 chat app in China (nearly as big as Whatsapp).

Maybe this is difficult to understand for people who don't work with text like writing emails or using a text editor.

So yes, if the only thing you use your iOS devices for is watching YouTube videos, you might not consider this a critical bug.

It's a bug, it's hardly anything even close to being critical or major or even of much consequence. It doesn't mean that it's not a bug and something that shouldn't be fixed, just that given all kinds of other bugs that exist and its impact the priority is likely a low one for something like that. Not uncommon at all for all kinds of software from all kinds of companies. Just the reality of it all, nothing more, nothing less.
 
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How is this not a critical bug? Imagine working with a text editor and you can't reliably copy text. The same goes for email clients and the number 1 chat app in China (nearly as big as Whatsapp).

Maybe this is difficult to understand for people who don't work with text like writing emails or using a text editor.

So yes, if the only thing you use your iOS devices for is watching YouTube videos, you might not consider this a critical bug.
Not getting a context menu the first time you select something that only applies to WebUI view and only in 3rd party apps is not a critical issue--it doesn't cause a failure of something or data to be lost or something of that nature, which would be critical.

The mere fact that a simple and quick workaround of just quickly selecting something once and selecting it or what you need once again gets it all working certainly makes it far from critical, and in the context of it applying only in certain circumstances and not just across the board everywhere contributes to it being less severe and of lower priority.

I understand someone could certainly be annoyed by it and all that, but that doesn't make it critical or high priority just because of that. And none of this is to say it's not a bug or something that shouldn't be addressed. Again, just the likely fairly straightforward reality of it all.
 
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Fair enough.
I understand where you are coming from.

Even though this might not be a critical bug causing data loss, it is an annoying enough bug so that Apple should have fixed it within the last eleven months.

I have to face this every single day again and again. The workaround you are describing doesn't really seem to work reliably in all apps. Sometimes you get the context menu, sometimes you don't. Sometimes the first time, sometimes the second time and sometimes one cannot select text at all for whatever reason.

This is rather unnerving and simply wants me to work on more reliable devices (bloody Android if I must).

A lot of major 3rd party apps are affected. Microsoft apps (Outlook), Evernote, WeChat, Chrome, professional calendar apps; all these seem fairly important productivity apps and Apple's arrogance in making them not work reliably is just shameful.

I would even be willing to use native apps more, if they were more powerful and worked properly in China, which alas they don't. The Apple mail app is a marvellous example. Doesn't really work with gmail in China. Can't get mails and connects constantly to servers, therefore draining your battery. If you are connected to a VPN to avoid this problem, your battery is gone in half a day. Ridiculous.

Of course one could argue that Apple doesn't need to support gmail. Or that Apple shouldn't fix their apps so they work in China. (Mail is not the only one)

But simply put: I've just had it.

I won't be able to update to iOS 10 on my iPhone 6 because I already know that Apple will make this device slower than it already is.

My Apple Watch is most of the time somewhat unresponsive to say the least. I won't be able to update to WatchOS 3 without iOS 10.

So basically Apple managed to annoy me every single day for 11 months, sold me overpriced products that don't work like promised or seen in the advertisements (Apple Watch) and now wants more money to fix all this or maybe not.

A company making that much money should be able to provide a well working product, especially if it's a simple software bug that needs fixing.

I'm done with Apple. I need more reliable devices made by a company I can trust to fix bugs. Not being able to use Safari for a week a few months ago or having to endure a catastrophically slow device after the release of iOS 9 with a notes app not working properly just shows that Apple seems to trust managers who don't do their jobs well enough.

I bought my first iPhone in 2007. And the one I'm typing this on shall be my last.

Cheers for reading all this.
Apologies for sounding a bit frustrated and disappointed.

Not getting a context menu the first time you select something that only applies to WebUI view and only in 3rd party apps is not a critical issue--it doesn't cause a failure of something or data to be lost or something of that nature, which would be critical.

The mere fact that a simple and quick workaround of just quickly selecting something once and selecting it or what you need once again gets it all working certainly makes it far from critical, and in the context of it applying only in certain circumstances and not just across the board everywhere contributes to it being less severe and of lower priority.

I understand someone could certainly be annoyed by it and all that, but that doesn't make it critical or high priority just because of that. And none of this is to say it's not a bug or something that shouldn't be addressed. Again, just the likely fairly straightforward reality of it all.
 
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Fair enough.
I understand where you are coming from.

Even though this might not be a critical bug causing data loss, it is an annoying enough bug so that Apple should have fixed it within the last eleven months.

I have to face this every single day again and again. The workaround you are describing doesn't really seem to work reliably in all apps. Sometimes you get the context menu, sometimes you don't. Sometimes the first time, sometimes the second time and sometimes one cannot select text at all for whatever reason.

This is rather unnerving and simply wants me to work on more reliable devices (bloody Android if I must).

A lot of major 3rd party apps are affected. Microsoft apps (Outlook), Evernote, WeChat, Chrome, professional calendar apps; all these seem fairly important productivity apps and Apple's arrogance in making them not work reliably is just shameful.

I would even be willing to use native apps more, if they were more powerful and worked properly in China, which alas they don't. The Apple mail app is a marvellous example. Doesn't really work with gmail in China. Can't get mails and connects constantly to servers, therefore draining your battery. If you are connected to a VPN to avoid this problem, your battery is gone in half a day. Ridiculous.

Of course one could argue that Apple doesn't need to support gmail. Or that Apple shouldn't fix their apps so they work in China. (Mail is not the only one)

But simply put: I've just had it.

I won't be able to update to iOS 10 on my iPhone 6 because I already know that Apple will make this device slower than it already is.

My Apple Watch is most of the time somewhat unresponsive to say the least. I won't be able to update to WatchOS 3 without iOS 10.

So basically Apple managed to annoy me every single day for 11 months, sold me overpriced products that don't work like promised or seen in the advertisements (Apple Watch) and now wants more money to fix all this or maybe not.

A company making that much money should be able to provide a well working product, especially if it's a simple software bug that needs fixing.

I'm done with Apple. I need more reliable devices made by a company I can trust to fix bugs. Not being able to use Safari for a week a few months ago or having to endure a catastrophically slow device after the release of iOS 9 with a notes app not working properly just shows that Apple seems to trust managers who don't do their jobs well enough.

I bought my first iPhone in 2007. And the one I'm typing this on shall be my last.

Cheers for reading all this.
Apologies for sounding a bit frustrated and disappointed.
For all of your issues I'd just like to remind you that "the grass is NOT really greener" on the other side.

Not updating to iOS 10 is your conscious decision with a preconceived idea of it making your iPhone "slow". You don't know if that's going to happen in reality. But you still blame apple for that? Although, this could be true but unless your device is at least 5-6 years old generally Apple is very good at optimising the OS for older devices.

Given the nature of the industry, none of the companies fix all the bugs. Forget about a huge piece of software like an operating system, even simple apps are laden with bugs. It all depends on the number of users affected and the consequence of the issue. From what you've described, I'm sorry but, I have to agree with C DM for it not being a critical bug at all. In fact, I'll actually put it as a minor bug.

Every operating system on this planet is full of hundreds of bugs and some users do get affected by them on a regular basis but when it comes down to the money spent and value gained equation, it just doesn't make sense for companies to spend behind something which a majority of the user base don't care about. Only security related bugs are exception to this rule.
 
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I own an iPhone 6 and I think it's fairly realistic to assume that this device will turn out to be a bit slower under iOS 10.

Do you happen to remember Tim Cook's promises of the 'under the hood' improvements in iOS 9 and how they would make the phones faster? I don't want to claim that he didn't tell the truth, but I don't know of anyone who had a device that wasn't slower after the update to iOS 9 and even now after quite a few updates the GUI of iOS 8.x seems more responsive than the one of iOS 9.3.3 on an iPhone 6.

I find it interesting that not having a reliable context menu is considered a minor bug by you guys. I use the context menu 100 times every day and even if I used it only 20 times, I would probably find it very confusing that it sometimes shows up and sometimes not. I cannot really imagine that this is good advertisement for Apple, especially outside the US, e.g. in Asia where 3rd party apps are so much more popular.

I'm really starting to wonder if Apple didn't take this seriously because within the American bubble of native apps, everything is fairly fine.

Did you know that one can't use the Apple weather app to check the weather in any city apart from capitals when in China? If I want to know the weather in Manchester or Liverpool which are fairly big cities in the UK, I get a 'not found' message in the native weather app. Every single person in China has this problem with all cities around the world (apart from capitals). No fix since iOS 8.

Cheers

For all of your issues I'd just like to remind you that "the grass is NOT really greener" on the other side.

Not updating to iOS 10 is your conscious decision with a preconceived idea of it making your iPhone "slow". You don't know if that's going to happen in reality. But you still blame apple for that? Although, this could be true but unless your device is at least 5-6 years old generally Apple is very good at optimising the OS for older devices.

Given the nature of the industry, none of the companies fix all the bugs. Forget about a huge piece of software like an operating system, even simple apps are laden with bugs. It all depends on the number of users affected and the consequence of the issue. From what you've described, I'm sorry but, I have to agree with C DM for it not being a critical bug at all. In fact, I'll actually put it as a minor bug.

Every operating system on this planet is full of hundreds of bugs and some users do get affected by them on a regular basis but when it comes down to the money spent and value gained equation, it just doesn't make sense for companies to spend behind something which a majority of the user base don't care about. Only security related bugs are exception to this rule.
 
I own an iPhone 6 and I think it's fairly realistic to assume that this device will turn out to be a bit slower under iOS 10.
Im on an iPhone 6 as well and have tested the latest beta which seems to be working fine. Although speed is a subjective perception to be fair.
Do you happen to remember Tim Cook's promises of the 'under the hood' improvements in iOS 9 and how they would make the phones faster? I don't want to claim that he didn't tell the truth, but I don't know of anyone who had a device that wasn't slower after the update to iOS 9 and even now after quite a few updates the GUI of iOS 8.x seems more responsive than the one of iOS 9.3.3 on an iPhone 6.
Genuinely I didn't have any speed issue on my phone. Then again maybe my expectations are low.
I find it interesting that not having a reliable context menu is considered a minor bug by you guys. I use the context menu 100 times every day and even if I used it only 20 times, I would probably find it very confusing that it sometimes shows up and sometimes not. I cannot really imagine that this is good advertisement for Apple, especially outside the US, e.g. in Asia where 3rd party apps are so much more popular.
Personally I've not had issues with this but I can't say for others. It seems mostly people ain't bothered, otherwise the issue will be mentioned a lot more frequently. Although I mostly use all the stock apps.
I'm really starting to wonder if Apple didn't take this seriously because within the American bubble of native apps, everything is fairly fine.

Did you know that one can't use the Apple weather app to check the weather in any city apart from capitals when in China? If I want to know the weather in Manchester or Liverpool which are fairly big cities in the UK, I get a 'not found' message in the native weather app. Every single person in China has this problem with all cities around the world (apart from capitals). No fix since iOS 8.
Must say I wasn't aware of this issue. I wonder why it's specific to China though. I would consider the weather app issue to be a much more critical problem than the context menu one.

Cheers.
 
Never know when my battery life will triple on one :)...This may be THE most hilarious comment I've ever read on MR --- ya' never know.

It's good for the health to wish and dream...but that is all we can do with this topic! ;)
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No, it's fact. Backed by hard data from App developers like ustwo (who track the number of paid and copied App installs there are).

Next you're going to tell me people who pirate PC games are only doing it to "try it out" and they plan on buying the real game if they like it.


Yes...back in the day that is what I did...on some... :)
 
I've always been confused by this. Do carriers not automatically allow this? I've never had an issue with AT&T and tethering, just turn my computer on and select iPhone in Network Settings
They do on their new Next plans, however the grandfathered plans, especially the unlimited ones, may/do not.
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People that would like to run modified and unsigned software on their devices should be able to do so, at their responsibility. It's their "device" imho.
And they're free to do so freely on Android and via the current jailbreaking tools on iOS. You don't simply buy a device, you get a device knowing the restrictions and abilities of that device.
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They did not manage to fix the context menu bug throughout iOS 9.

That's appalling.

I contacted Apple 20 times about this. Too arrogant to fix it. That's it for me.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/context-menu-not-showing-the-first-time.1964936/
Fixes can take time you know...
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For all of your issues I'd just like to remind you that "the grass is NOT really greener" on the other side.

Not updating to iOS 10 is your conscious decision with a preconceived idea of it making your iPhone "slow". You don't know if that's going to happen in reality. But you still blame apple for that? Although, this could be true but unless your device is at least 5-6 years old generally Apple is very good at optimising the OS for older devices.

Given the nature of the industry, none of the companies fix all the bugs. Forget about a huge piece of software like an operating system, even simple apps are laden with bugs. It all depends on the number of users affected and the consequence of the issue. From what you've described, I'm sorry but, I have to agree with C DM for it not being a critical bug at all. In fact, I'll actually put it as a minor bug.

Every operating system on this planet is full of hundreds of bugs and some users do get affected by them on a regular basis but when it comes down to the money spent and value gained equation, it just doesn't make sense for companies to spend behind something which a majority of the user base don't care about. Only security related bugs are exception to this rule.
Actually, I disagree with you on this post. Apple does a pretty terrible job at optimizing for older devices. It's fairly well-known that your device gets slower with each iOS version, namely b/c Apple doesn't really optimize for older devices.

As for bug priority, yeah you're right that it's not high priority bug. I haven't actually experienced the bug at all.
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I own an iPhone 6 and I think it's fairly realistic to assume that this device will turn out to be a bit slower under iOS 10.

Do you happen to remember Tim Cook's promises of the 'under the hood' improvements in iOS 9 and how they would make the phones faster? I don't want to claim that he didn't tell the truth, but I don't know of anyone who had a device that wasn't slower after the update to iOS 9 and even now after quite a few updates the GUI of iOS 8.x seems more responsive than the one of iOS 9.3.3 on an iPhone 6.

I find it interesting that not having a reliable context menu is considered a minor bug by you guys. I use the context menu 100 times every day and even if I used it only 20 times, I would probably find it very confusing that it sometimes shows up and sometimes not. I cannot really imagine that this is good advertisement for Apple, especially outside the US, e.g. in Asia where 3rd party apps are so much more popular.

I'm really starting to wonder if Apple didn't take this seriously because within the American bubble of native apps, everything is fairly fine.

Did you know that one can't use the Apple weather app to check the weather in any city apart from capitals when in China? If I want to know the weather in Manchester or Liverpool which are fairly big cities in the UK, I get a 'not found' message in the native weather app. Every single person in China has this problem with all cities around the world (apart from capitals). No fix since iOS 8.

Cheers
Let's take this one at a time:

Yes, your device will most likely be slower in iOS 10. This is the nature of development focused on the current-gen devices.

There were under-the-hood improvements in iOS 9. I honestly haven't experienced any slow-down in iOS 9 to be honest, at least not with animations. If others are having issues, I suggest an iTunes update/restore and a 'reset all setttings' solution. That tends to fix things for me.

I don't use the context menu often (and no one I know does), so I haven't experienced said bug. However, in the grand scheme of bug priority, it is fairly low-priority for reasons given in previous posts.

As for China, I'd look at blaming China for that problem, not Apple.
 
They did not manage to fix the context menu bug throughout iOS 9.

That's appalling.

I contacted Apple 20 times about this. Too arrogant to fix it. That's it for me.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/context-menu-not-showing-the-first-time.1964936/

This is just absurd. How can Apple pretend to leave 9.3.4 as a final "solid" release before iOS 10's arrival is just beyond me.

There are still PLENTY of bugs out there, and the one you mention is just one of the many that I experience all the time—and damn it makes me angry every time I experience it.

Users trying to make this particular bug look as if it was irrelevant just seem to be too indulgent with Apple. I don't get why, but that seems to be the case with a lot of people, sadly. The worst thing is that I doubt it will encourage Tim and company to raise the bar in their software development (which has lowered waaaaaaaaay too much since Steve's dead).
 
This is just absurd. How can Apple pretend to leave 9.3.4 as a final "solid" release before iOS 10's arrival is just beyond me.

There are still PLENTY of bugs out there, and the one you mention is just one of the many that I experience all the time—and damn it makes me angry every time I experience it.

Users trying to make this particular bug look as if it was irrelevant just seem to be too indulgent with Apple. I don't get why, but that seems to be the case with a lot of people, sadly. The worst thing is that I doubt it will encourage Tim and company to raise the bar in their software development (which has lowered waaaaaaaaay too much since Steve's dead).

yeah, but they are petty enough to do a release just to patch a jailbreak and pretend that their 'trusted computing' baloney actually works. sad times we live in. it would be EPIC if the chinese jailbroke this one as well just for the hell of it :D
 
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