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This is just absurd. How can Apple pretend to leave 9.3.4 as a final "solid" release before iOS 10's arrival is just beyond me.

There are still PLENTY of bugs out there, and the one you mention is just one of the many that I experience all the time—and damn it makes me angry every time I experience it.

Users trying to make this particular bug look as if it was irrelevant just seem to be too indulgent with Apple. I don't get why, but that seems to be the case with a lot of people, sadly. The worst thing is that I doubt it will encourage Tim and company to raise the bar in their software development (which has lowered waaaaaaaaay too much since Steve's dead).
Every software out there has bugs. It's purely cost vs benefit and priorities when it comes down to fixing them.
 
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Every software out there has bugs. It's purely cost vs benefit and priorities when it comes down to fixing them.
I don't get the thinking process what steve released was perfect. Seems that is far from the truth and people have selective memories of things that may have happened a long time ago.

Not only that the environment is way more complicated. Way more code.
 
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I don't get the thinking process what steve released was perfect. Seems that is far from the truth and people have selective memories of things that may have happened a long time ago.
That's because of the charismatic appearance he had. Steve was the perfect salesman.
 
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Battery life is worse than on .3

70% and 2hrs 3min

Use to 10% every hour

13.5hrs standby


I forgot to reboot after dl which I usually do. will see--------
 
This jailbreak is a joke anyway, so no big loss for me, I'm staying on 9.0.2 JB still working fine, stable, runs everything I need/want.

Have you tried the new jailbreak to call it a JOKE?

I can speak from MY experience - I upgraded from a 9.0.2 working j/b on the first day the 9.3.3 jb became available and the 9.3.3 j/b has been flawless in my opinion. I can also say the benefits to have the almost newest ios (9.3.4) is a better experience too over 9.0.2.

People are comparing the semi tethered to untethered - I can say I have rebooted my device 5 times tops since 7/24/16 and process is seamless to RE JAILBREAK.
 
This is just absurd. How can Apple pretend to leave 9.3.4 as a final "solid" release before iOS 10's arrival is just beyond me.

There are still PLENTY of bugs out there, and the one you mention is just one of the many that I experience all the time—and damn it makes me angry every time I experience it.

Users trying to make this particular bug look as if it was irrelevant just seem to be too indulgent with Apple. I don't get why, but that seems to be the case with a lot of people, sadly. The worst thing is that I doubt it will encourage Tim and company to raise the bar in their software development (which has lowered waaaaaaaaay too much since Steve's dead).
There are plenty of bugs in pretty much all software. No one realistically expects them all or even most of them to be fixed in something as large as an OS with any version really. The last release of a particular version is just that, the last release of that version, it carries no implications of it being perfect or bug-free or anything like that. Again, it's just simple reality that has been in play for many years across many companies and all kinds of software (and even hardware).
 
I don't get the thinking process what steve released was perfect. Seems that is far from the truth and people have selective memories of things that may have happened a long time ago.

Not only that the environment is way more complicated. Way more code.
Steve's releases did not brick devices.Each version only had a max of 2-3 versions under it unlike Tim where we have 8 releases for each version all of em full of bugs
 
Steve's releases did not brick devices.Each version only had a max of 2-3 versions under it unlike Tim where we have 8 releases for each version all of em full of bugs
No, only major embarrassment, antenna gate, battery issues, the maps fiasco, etc. but your right Steves releases had zero bugs.:rolleyes: The reason there were only two or three versions is that Steve cut them off, bugs, vulnerabilities and all...while Timmy will continue to release to quash the hackers.

Seems like this is the nth go around for this line of thinking.
 
No, only major embarrassment, antenna gate, battery issues, the maps fiasco, etc. but your right Steves releases had zero bugs.:rolleyes: The reason there were only two or three versions is that Steve cut them off, bugs, vulnerabilities and all...while Timmy will continue to release to quash the hackers.

Seems like this is the nth go around for this line of thinking.

Those weren't bugs... The maps program was designed to eliminate bugs. All bugs washed away immediately upon driving into the lake :D
 
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Yeah the fix is to make your phone not jailbreakable anymore. Ill pass on this update

So you want your phone to have a serious security vulnerability? You do understand that a jailbreakable iOS is a vulnerable OS right!

I'm guessing that if you are jailbreaking your iPhone then you don't really care about security anyways. But, most of us see such a patch as a thing to be applauded.
 
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Steve's releases did not brick devices.Each version only had a max of 2-3 versions under it unlike Tim where we have 8 releases for each version all of em full of bugs
Interesting nothing has actually been bricked since the devices could be recovered. That said, as I recall there was an iOS or iPhone OS update or two when Jobs was around that caused some similar types of issues, not to mention some OS X updates with some considerable issues as well. The fact that versions had less release doesn't mean they didn't have bugs and could even be taken that bugs were addressed rarely and newer features were added more rarely. Pretty sure this has all been commented on and discussed quite a few times before. Repeating the same things doesn't really make them any more real or meaningful.
 
I own an iPhone 6 and I think it's fairly realistic to assume that this device will turn out to be a bit slower under iOS 10.

Do you happen to remember Tim Cook's promises of the 'under the hood' improvements in iOS 9 and how they would make the phones faster? I don't want to claim that he didn't tell the truth, but I don't know of anyone who had a device that wasn't slower after the update to iOS 9 and even now after quite a few updates the GUI of iOS 8.x seems more responsive than the one of iOS 9.3.3 on an iPhone 6.

I find it interesting that not having a reliable context menu is considered a minor bug by you guys. I use the context menu 100 times every day and even if I used it only 20 times, I would probably find it very confusing that it sometimes shows up and sometimes not. I cannot really imagine that this is good advertisement for Apple, especially outside the US, e.g. in Asia where 3rd party apps are so much more popular.

I'm really starting to wonder if Apple didn't take this seriously because within the American bubble of native apps, everything is fairly fine.

Did you know that one can't use the Apple weather app to check the weather in any city apart from capitals when in China? If I want to know the weather in Manchester or Liverpool which are fairly big cities in the UK, I get a 'not found' message in the native weather app. Every single person in China has this problem with all cities around the world (apart from capitals). No fix since iOS 8.

Cheers

8 years on macrumors and you cannot quote properly?
 
No, only major embarrassment, antenna gate, battery issues, the maps fiasco, etc. but your right Steves releases had zero bugs.:rolleyes: The reason there were only two or three versions is that Steve cut them off, bugs, vulnerabilities and all...while Timmy will continue to release to quash the hackers.

Seems like this is the nth go around for this line of thinking.
Antenna gate isn't a bug in a software release.And we have Timmy to thank for bendgate.All iOS releases since 8.4.1 have had battery issues.Maps was done because Steve wanted to cut off Google.He isn't a sucker for others like Tim is with a certain country.He wanted the company to be independent .All of his releases dint have bugs because his his releases didn't at least break devices 4 times in 1 release like under iOS 9
 
Antenna gate isn't a bug in a software release.And we have Timmy to thank for bendgate.All iOS releases since 8.4.1 have had battery issues.Maps was done because Steve wanted to cut off Google.He isn't a sucker for others like Tim is with a certain country.He wanted the company to be independent .All of his releases dint have bugs because his his releases didn't at least break devices 4 times in 1 release like under iOS 9
So you are trying to weight how badly each CEOs worse release was and then come up with a scale as to who was the worse CEO judging solely by the releases? That thinking seems inline with everything else. But than we should add to the wood pile, record breaking quarters, numbers of units sold, most valuable company and all of that stuff.

And it doesn't really matter if antenna gate was software or hardware, it showed a certain CEO was not infallible and was an embarrassment worse than software bugs, because no one (in their right mind) expects software to be bug free.
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I own an iPhone 6 and I think it's fairly realistic to assume that this device will turn out to be a bit slower under iOS 10.

Do you happen to remember Tim Cook's promises of the 'under the hood' improvements in iOS 9 and how they would make the phones faster? I don't want to claim that he didn't tell the truth, but I don't know of anyone who had a device that wasn't slower after the update to iOS 9 and even now after quite a few updates the GUI of iOS 8.x seems more responsive than the one of iOS 9.3.3 on an iPhone 6.

I find it interesting that not having a reliable context menu is considered a minor bug by you guys. I use the context menu 100 times every day and even if I used it only 20 times, I would probably find it very confusing that it sometimes shows up and sometimes not. I cannot really imagine that this is good advertisement for Apple, especially outside the US, e.g. in Asia where 3rd party apps are so much more popular.

I'm really starting to wonder if Apple didn't take this seriously because within the American bubble of native apps, everything is fairly fine.

Did you know that one can't use the Apple weather app to check the weather in any city apart from capitals when in China? If I want to know the weather in Manchester or Liverpool which are fairly big cities in the UK, I get a 'not found' message in the native weather app. Every single person in China has this problem with all cities around the world (apart from capitals). No fix since iOS 8.

Cheers
My ipad 2 barely worked on IOS 8. Browsing in safari was a nightmare, springboard crashes and the like, but hey it was responsive. (Seriously as long as I could get what I needed to done, I just shrugged it off.) IOS 9 is better in every regard on that device. As far as a 5s, there is no real difference that I can tell, except safari is a bit snappier.
 



Apple today released an iOS 9.3.4 update for the iOS 9 operating system, just over two weeks after releasing iOS 9.3.3 and less than two months before we expect to see the public release of iOS 10, currently in beta testing.

iOS 9.3.4 is available immediately via an over-the-air download on all devices running iOS 9.

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According to Apple's release notes, iOS 9.3.4 provides "an important security update" and is recommended for all iOS 9 users.

iOS 9.3.4 is likely to be the last update to iOS 9, with iOS 10 coming in September alongside new iOS devices.

iOS 10 brings a slew of new features, including a revamped Lock screen experience, an overhauled Messages app with new functionality and its own App Store, a new Photos app with object and facial recognition, a redesigned Music app, a centralized HomeKit app, and a Siri SDK for developers.

Update: iOS 9.3.4 fixes the Pangu iOS 9.3.3 jailbreak exploit. In a support document covering the security fix included in the update, Apple credits Team Pangu with discovering a vulnerability related to a memory corruption issue.

Article Link: Apple Releases iOS 9.3.4 With Important Security Fix [Update: Jailbreak Patched]
[doublepost=1470518903][/doublepost]This "update" seems to have bricked my iPhone 5s. It loads halfway and then asks me to "Swipe to Upgrade". The has been going on for several hours. No way out.
 
I posted this on the Apple Support Community and got thoroughly flamed for it, but I'm not an idiot and I know what I observed on my phone.

Ever since installing 9.3.4, I've had massive problems with my iPhone 6S Plus. Rapid battery drain, 99% of memory being used even though only the app to check the memory was open, unable to do an iCloud backup, and connectivity problems with iTunes.

I spent over 2 hours online with 4 different Apple Support people and got nowhere. They claimed they haven't had any other reports of problems with the update, had me do a factory reset on my phone, and now are making me let it run for 24 hours without restoring my data to see if the problems continue. Then, they tell me, I'm allowed to contact them again and let them know what's happening and they MAY let me restore my data.

UPDATE: After restarting the phone with just the factory apps on it, battery went down 20% in about 20 minutes. 3 hours later, it's down to 51%.

I understand that rules are rules, but that basically puts me without a phone for two, maybe three days. And they won't even discuss what Apple will do if the problem is still there. Not at all customer-centric, IMHO.

Is anybody else having problems with this update? Or am I the only one?
 
Antenna gate isn't a bug in a software release.And we have Timmy to thank for bendgate.All iOS releases since 8.4.1 have had battery issues.Maps was done because Steve wanted to cut off Google.He isn't a sucker for others like Tim is with a certain country.He wanted the company to be independent .All of his releases dint have bugs because his his releases didn't at least break devices 4 times in 1 release like under iOS 9
Completely false statement sorry. Try again. And what exactly was broken 4 times under 1 release for iOS 9? Not sure I recall that happening. I do remember 8.0.1 breaking cellular access for the iP6 if updated OTA but only for 1 day. And that wasn't iOS 9 but the "holy grail iOS 8". Which btw was a POS on my iP6 for quite some time until it finally got somewhat stable way down the line. iOS 9.0 was WAY more stable out of the gate than 8 was no question.
 
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Completely false statement sorry. Try again. And what exactly was broken 4 times under 1 release for iOS 9? Not sure I recall that happening. I do remember 8.0.1 breaking cellular access for the iP6 if updated OTA but only for 1 day. And that wasn't iOS 9 but the "holy grail iOS 8". Which btw was a POS on my iP6 for quite some time until it finally got somewhat stable way down the line. iOS 9.0 was WAY more stable out of the gate than 8 was no question.
Sometimes hyperbole is the way to go when a point needs to be made.
 
A company making that much money should be able to provide a well working product, especially if it's a simple software bug that needs fixing.

I'm done with Apple. I need more reliable devices made by a company I can trust to fix bugs.

I remember when it all "just worked."

That period lasted a few years and it is gone. Apple's a soulless megacorp now, making pretty, pretty things that work usually.

You will find, however, that soulless megacorps span the planet, and in short time the one you replace Apple with in your affections will have similarly disappointed you. So temper your zeal for quality -- it's all relative.
 
Seems like a few need a simple reminder that you have a TELEPHONE in your pocket that does everything else. And has more computing power than a room full of servers back in the day. Never seen so much venom because of such a minor thing here and there. This says is all!

 
I've always been confused by this. Do carriers not automatically allow this? I've never had an issue with AT&T and tethering, just turn my computer on and select iPhone in Network Settings
Im one of those guys with grandfathered unlimited data plan since 2009. We dont get hotspot feature unless we opt in for it for $30 extra (Verizon).
[doublepost=1470786597][/doublepost]Tethering is generally in the realm of carriers and their plans/features, so it's not really something for Apple to allow.
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It's not necessarily about it actually getting exploited as much as it being in existence and in the wild so to say. If it's there and it's known and someone could abuse it (even if no one really does) it's on Apple to address it. We all know that should one day someone actually exploit something before Apple patches it, everyone will be all over Apple for it, no matter how rare (even if just plain never) it happened in the past.[/QUOTE]
It will secure from the security issue that can be exploited in potentially various ways (jailbreak just being one of them).

Typically something like a security patch, especially one of higher importance that needs to get out sooner than later, won't get a dev/public beta.

The security changes are available from Apple, but they get listed within about a day or so after the update is released to give more people a chance to install the update and have the security issues patched before the details of those security issues are made public (and could potentially be exploited by someone on those who didn't get a chance to update). In this case it seems to have happened even faster: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207026

Well, we even had an X.4 release (with iOS 8.4).

It's possible that with a security issue in play Apple might stop signing the previous version earlier than they typically do.

Why do you jail break?!

To address a security issue (that the jailbreak happens to use as well).

So...not actually bricked?

Tethering is generally in the realm of carriers and their plans/features, so it's not really something for Apple to allow.
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It's not necessarily about it actually getting exploited as much as it being in existence and in the wild so to say. If it's there and it's known and someone could abuse it (even if no one really does) it's on Apple to address it. We all know that should one day someone actually exploit something before Apple patches it, everyone will be all over Apple for it, no matter how rare (even if just plain never) it happened in the past.

I dont think that's the case for the Hotspot. Android users can simply download tethering apps and use it even without rooting it. Apple, it is not available without jailbreaking.
The reason why wireless companies such as Verizon cannot do anything against those grandfathered unlimited data users using the jailbroken tethering method is because of they have certain FCC rules that keeps them from stopping us.
 
So 9.3.4 is purely to patch the jailbreak and nothing else ?. I really hope there's a jailbreak for 32 bit devices, My iPad 4 runs iOS 9 fine and will get iOS 10, but my 5th gen iPod touch is really sluggish. Ive kept both on 9.3.3 in the hope there is a jailbreak, wanted to install the iOS 10 beta on my iPad 4 but cant now seeing as if I want to go back Ill be on 9.3.4 (btw, does anyone know how the beta runs on an iPad 4 ?).

Fingers crossed I guess.
 
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