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it's engineered towards the people who have long commutes. I see them every day, listening to their iPods and reading their Kindles. This is a great alternative -- everything in one place, plus the ability to (heaven forbid) get a little work done during your commute. This is a middle-aged person's dream toy.

It does beg the question of why you'd need an iPhone too, though.

That's the reason this won't take off like the iphone. Everyone has cell phones and most people would want a iphone if they could have it. The iphone appeals to most people regardless of what they would use it for or there situation. This is going to be such a niche product, it's the apple tv. It does some cool stuff but not very practical.

Here is the way I think I would use it. I have a Mac Pro and a Macbook. The iPad would be fun to have at home so while I am watching TV or in the kitchen I could check some email, etc without booting up the laptop, looking for the power adapter. Fun to have and a luxury but not for the masses.

You won't get the teenage market begging their parents for this, like they do when their cell phone contract is up and want to upgrade to a iphone.

This won't do numbers anywhere like the ipod or iphone
 
HAHAHAHAAAAA Wow. All those jokes over the last few weeks about how much complaining the whiney ****s will be doing when it finally ships... very funny to actually see.

I'll wait for r.2 to see if they put a 16:9 screen & an iChat camera in it.

But I'm not going to weep and moan... i mean, grow a pair!
 
Sounds very revolutionary to me. :mad:

hey - heres an idea Apple - rather than enter the world of gimmicks and toys, why dont you spend a little more time sorting out your pathetically expensive and crap server line up? :mad:
or are you really aiming to become a glorified consumer gimmicks firm?:mad:


Please, enlighten us on how you would have made it better. Oh but I guess it's just easier to bitch about it. I guess some people will never be satisfied.

Every time Apple releases something new we can always count on people like you to whine and complain because it doesn't have this or that or it's WAY too expensive or whatever and because of this it's "TEH END OF APPLE!!!! OMG APPLE SUXORZ :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:".

So go on, let's see your idea of how this could have been better.
 
How do I type a research paper and browse the internet page to do the research simultaneously? How do I save and access iwork documents? How do I attach these documents to emails? These are all valid questions I don't feel like can be answered by this device.

Yes, it's not clear to me how this product is useful for education / college. I think for that, you'd need multi-tasking and stylus/handwriting recognition. Then it would be useful as a notetaking device and could handle classroom settings.
 
Whether you want to believe it or not, this is a Kindle-killer and it's engineered towards the people who have long commutes. I see them every day, listening to their iPods and reading their Kindles. This is a great alternative -- everything in one place, plus the ability to (heaven forbid) get a little work done during your commute. This is a middle-aged person's dream toy.

It does beg the question of why you'd need an iPhone too, though.

A Kindle killer has to have eInk.

People who use the Kindle and other ebook readers don't use it because they want a high tech gadget with lots of options, they use one because the eink technology allows for easy reading. You could buy and read ebooks on the iPad but the glossy and backlit display will be far worse on your eyes.

People who want color, video and so on don't buy a Kindle, people who are avid readers do.
 
i just pulled my list of requirements from a post on Jan 13th.

10 inch screen
great battery life
wifi
3G
GPS
silly compass
accelerometer
webcam
iphone OSX (modified)
all iPhone apps (modified)
iwork (modified)
apple mail program
iphoto
some photo editor
some ebook reader
safari
keychain
sync to my mobileme
speakers
microphone
video out
sd card reader
more than 30GB
no real phone capabilities
$600 with $30 data plan through ATT

so I'm missing only:
SD card reader
Webcam
don't know about keychain yet
and its 25% more expensive than I wanted.

I get beyond my list:
an ugly Becel

well, three month to think about it. I'm surprised how close the price is to what I hoped.
 
I too was a bit shell shocked like the rest of you, but if you consider a Kindle DX global wireless is near $500, then maybe this isn't a bad deal. After all, he did show the Kindle at the beginning. So as a book and news reader, it looks good and has a good user interface. All other items like mail, contact, games, pictures and videos are icing on the cake compared to the DX. I compare it to the DX because of the screen size.

Also, as a netbook competitor, it's not bad either (EXCEPT for the dang camera, wtf mate). Aside from the lack of built in camera, this thing does what a netbook does only in a more elegant fashion. It certainly nicer to carry around the house vs a netbook and kindle or book or magazine.

Just a thought...

I don't see how you justify the iPad simply based on the high cost of a Kindle, frankly. Both SUCK. The low contrast, not-backlight, nearly one-trick pony, overpriced Kindle sucks as does an updated Newton. Give me my netbook and my Touch and I'm happy. And I'm happy, as I own both.
 
How about an apples to apples comparison?

What's the best tablet out there (or even announced) right now?

And how does the iPad stack up at this price?
 
This is almost exactly what I expected Apple to do to compete in the netbook market, and I think it is a smart move for them.

That being said, there are a few things that will keep me from buying this product, because it doesn't fulfill what I need/want in a netbook.

While I am not desperate enough to use a netbook for creating content, that is what real computers are for, this doesn't fill the role that netbooks fill in my household either.

1) No Flash/Silverlight support

While I have no love for flash, and will welcome the day that HTML5 makes it totally obsolete. That day hasn't arrived yet.

My youngest daughter is all about Webkinz. She plays on that site as much as she does all other internet sites put together and doubled. That site is built on flash. So, to put it simply, this device will not fulfill the primary usage of my youngest daughter for her netbook.

My oldest daughter likes to stream video from Hulu and Netflix on her netbook. Given that Hulu requires flash to stream videos and Netflix requires silverlight this removes the iPad from contention for her.

2) No video camera

My oldest daughter uses the video camera to video conference with her friends quite a bit. I use it to video conference with my mother. Given that the iPad doesn't have a video camera built-in (Seriously who overlooked this? Every netbook has a built-in video camera.) nor does it have the capability to add a video camera this fails to meet this usage of our netbooks.

3) No external storage

Both of my daughters use their netbooks as portable video players on long drives or when they have to sit somewhere and wait for my wife or I. To this end I have saved a lot of movies onto an external USB drives that they can easily carry with them and attach to the netbook as needed.

Since the iPad has neither a USB port or an SD Card slot. (Note: This could possibly be remedied by the available SD card reader that plugs into the dock.) There is no viable alternative for making our large library of video available to my daughters.

This is perhaps my biggest gripe against Apple. They need to get over their desire to gouge people for more internal storage by not including an SD card reader or USB port on their portable devices. Join the rest of the world in this century Apple. You will make plenty of money from those content sales.

4) App Store only applications

Until Apple quits playing morality police with the App Store I will not purchase any of their devices which limit me to only running what they okay. I am a grown adult, and a paying customer, if I wish to read a book that has the f' word in it, then I will be damned if I am going to stand for Apple telling me that I cannot read that book on MY device.

I really don't have a problem with them vetting the programs for malicious or dangerous code. That doesn't extend to content. Apple isn't my mother, and I will not have a company tell me what I can and cannot view on my devices.

Eventually, I think they will get over this idiocy, heck they have with the iTunes store, but until such time. No App store only Apple product for me.

I am excited about the iPad. I think it will sell well, and I am sure that within a few iterations many, if not all of my concerns will be addressed, and in a few years when they have pulled their heads out of their asses about playing morality police with the App Store and hopefully quit trying to gouge the consumer by not building in an SD card slot or USB port, when it is time to replace our current netbooks, hopefully I will be buying a new slick iPad version 3.

Your daughters? - give me a break. With all due respect Mr Ballmer, your daughters won't actually ever be allowed to use Apple products will they?
 
The iPad is easy

You've got it.

There's lots of stuff the iPad doesn't do. What it does, it does in a fashion that is easy to use.

I don't think it'll get any traction with computing geeks, but it will turn everyone else's world upside down. In effect, you'll have a new class of computer that does most of the tasks you can do with a full computer, but you'll never need technical support.

As the provider of tech support for my extended family and friends, I can't wait. I'll have weekends to myself again!
 
I hope this is the beginning of the end for Flash...

Wait... it already was when youtube launched its HTML5 web site earlier this month... :)


Anyway, the Ipad really needs an small camera, and one USB-Host port.

It really is a Unix running on ARM, so it will be hacked to allow everypossible open source app :)
 
Im a bit disappointed like the rest but I still think its pretty cool. I'll get one just for the added screen space with music programs (this will be killer!), plus e-mail and web browsing without expanding the screen. Those reasons alone plus a $500 price point have me sold. It just seems a bit lacking, they had a chance to release one hell of a product, the mighty and long awaited iPad, and all we got is an overgrown iPod touch. Im sure future releases will add what we want but why does Apple always have to do business this way? No camera? seriously guys, its 2010, get it together, anything would of been better than nothing.
 
I'm scared. :eek:

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I'll be impressed when apple creates a macbook pro as thin as the macbook air, with a screen that twists to look like this ipad nonsense and that has handwriting recognition for doing math chemistry, and real art. Also the white macbook is 899 with education discount which anyone can claim and it has all of this crap..if you want 3G, just buy service from t-mobile, verizon, or any carrier and get a usb thing to get 3G. Since when is thin and light the new-in. I thought power and productivity was more important. This world goes through the weirdest trends.
 
How about an apples to apples comparison?

What's the best tablet out there (or even announced) right now?

And how does the iPad stack up at this price?

HP2730P. Runs full Windows Seven Tablet edition. Handwriting recognition is amazing! Can do all the functions of the iKotex.
 
How do I type a research paper and browse the internet page to do the research simultaneously? How do I save and access iwork documents? How do I attach these documents to emails? These are all valid questions I don't feel like can be answered by this device.

these all sound like questions from someone who's never seen an iphone.

the browse/write maybe be a legitimate worry, but then... why would you want to do that on this machine? ya gotta pick the right tool for the job.

otherwise... the iphone already does all this. it'll be the same way. opening / saving / sending is not going to be a problem.
 
My 2 cents

Love that overall form factor - aesthetically it did not disappoint. People complaining about the bezel: think of this - having no bezel would have required the device to be thicker, and, would have increased the likelihood of dropping it ten fold since nowhere to properly grip it.

Love the display - I am not too bothered by no 16x9. Yes we are going to have to format video content for it to play on the iPad, but this is Apple and I guess we knew that was coming.

iBooks looks cool. iWork looks very capable also.

I was underwhelmed by the UI - I mean I am already impressed by multitouch, but, I was expecting more much innovation: handwriting recognition, voice recognition... I don't think that virtual keyboard is enough for me to retire my MBA.

No camera: I cannot imagine why it was not worth an extra 50 cents to put in a 3MP camera. As many others have said, no video conferencing is a real issue. I imagine myself going on say, a three day business trip: do I just take my iPad - after all I can do email, browse, watch movies, read books... but, I won't be able to video Skype with my little boy... Looks like I need my MBA. Not a deal killer but really, what did they save by omitting that camera?

No Flash - I agree flash is a resource hog but let me choose to devote the resources. Way too many sites that are no go for me without Flash - again, I need the MBA for that trip... I really wonder whether by the time this ships it will be running iPhone OS 4.0 with Flash support
 
Personally, I love it. But some things I would like to see in Rev B are:

-16:9 Ratio
-OS X Interface with OS 4.0 Functionality
-SuperDrive, if possible
-USB, SD Slot, Firewire
-MULTITASKING

Also, I think it should be called the MacPad, MacSlate, or MacTouch.
 
Actually there are two kinds of "assisted GPS". One uses full GPS PLUS cell tower info, the other uses cell towers only, with no satellites. I believe the iPhone uses the latter, so this probably is as well.

Either way, Apple should be more specific in their product info.

No the iPhone has TRUE GPS, using satellites, and the iPod Touch only has triangulation, without real GPS. Although it's quite accurate (the iPod Touch "GPS"), it only works when you can find a WiFi hotspot. In other words, it rarely works. True GPS, however, is only good if you have 3G, since you will need to download the map data on the go, which you cannot do without an internet connection (yeah because WiFi only happens at home and once every year when you find a lucky free WiFi hotspot for 10 minutes). Well you could get an App that would already have the map data preloaded though. But that would be huge.

As for the iPad, I don't know what kind of GPS it has, but the acronym "GPS" should not be used if it doesn't refer to the Global Positioning System, that is, to the GPS satellites, so I would say it's true GPS that the Tablet has.
 
And what's with comparing this to Netbooks? I will not do any reading on Netbooks. Surf the web? I rather touch it, than use a trackpad device. Also, the iPad has a IPS screen, and will certainly look beautiful at many angles.

Okay, you can buy a whole lot of Notebook for $499, but what if I don't want that chunk of Notebook?

Keep in mind that the stupid JooJoo, former Crunchpad, costs $499. Litl Webbook costs $699, also IPS screen. And that one has a 2 hour battery life.

Sure, soon you can buy an HP tablet that does more and has more. But the experience will still be hindered by an awful OS not customized for touch.

iPad will do fine. iPad Generation 2 will fly.

It's really like dream devices coming true. It's like Star Trek PADD but better.
 
I don't see what flash offers that other non-plugin technologies don't.

How about the ability to work with the hundreds of thousands of sites that are using Flash NOW (the iPad is supposed to surf the web, not part of the web; regardless of whether you like or dislike Flash, it's a de-facto web standard. New products that surf the web should deal with existing, widely used web technologies).

You can accomplish any UI that Flash can do with javascript now, and it is easier to integrate with your web application.

I'll go head to head with any javascript programmer, any time, anywhere, and run circles around them with Flash. UI designers already working in Illustrator and Photoshop can do much more with Flash than with Javascript (it's faster and more fun!)
 
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