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You are aware that even on the original iphone, you can use the ipod function while using a reading app, aren't you? That level of multitasking is obviously supported.

While I do want rapid task switching, even when I have 20 apps open on my macbook, I'm rarely truly using more than one simultaneously. What about you?

This is a good point.
 
Also I don't understand the constant whining about the lack of Flash. As if that would really be a huge omission.[...]

I really, really hope that Flash will die, the sooner the better.

Hopefully, the iPad's success among "regular" people will be Flash's death knell. I for one thank Apple for not allowing Flash on the tablet. :)
 
This direction of Apple product becomes annoying!?
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/27/defective_by_design/
http://www.defectivebydesign.org/blog/apple-ipad-drm-petition

This guy should buy an Android device and stop wasting his time drawing silly posters.
Oh and since when is "sharing music and books" legal again? Technically you can share you Apple-purchased music and books because they are not DRM protected. So what does this guy want?
 
I said: You cannot put your EXISTING photos, music, documents etc etc etc (also known as 'resources') onto the iPad without the use of an additional PC or Mac to Sync it with.


You said: Yes, you can. Again, you haven't bothered to read even the bare bit of info that's already available from the data sheet and SDK first look.

"File Sharing. A shared file directory is provided that will mount on your Mac or PC. This is presumably how files such as iWork documents will be transferred to and from the iPad. iPad applications will be able to access this shared directory."

Uhh that IS by using an EXISTING MAC or PC... right?

You're a Moron.

Just saying, but you can connect your camera directly.



For me, this product is interesting. However, after using a Palm Pre for a month, I have to say, multitasking really is useful. I run my iPod Touch 3G with Backgrounder, but it really is a chore having to navigate a home screen like such on the iPhone.

Now, this product will sell. And it probably will sell well. However, I'm going to hold off for a bit, and see what comes next. Oh, and how moddable it is. If it uses a SSD instead of NAND Flash, I'm just going to put a real SSD in it, and by doing so, it shouldn't be hard to get OS X working on this guy. Few mods, kexts, and such, but it should work without a hitch.

Now, if I can get OS X running on this thing, this is a must-buy.

Also, just wanted to say that the pricing is incredible. The display itself is pretty darn expensive, and seeing the iPad near the costs of an unlocked iPhone 3GS is amazing.
 
Multitasking is an OS limitation. They can update the OS and add true multitasking for all apps. Not saying they WILL w/o a hardware upgrade but they CAN.

The better reading experience is a plus, and I like the exceptional single-piece portability, but honestly the primary reason I'm going to fork over $500 for this instead of relying on my MacBook Air is the fact I get 2 - 3 hours, max, battery life on my Air under normal usage conditions and the iPad has a rated 10-hour battery life w/ weeks of standby. Actual usage will decrease max battery life, but I'll still not have to bother with plugging it in during the middle of the day, so long as I remember to charge it overnight.

$500 is still a lot cheaper than going around $1,500 for a MacBook Pro with a 7-hour battery. If there were an Air on the market w/ an 8-hour battery, might be a different story.

Definitely a point. Makes me wonder how Macbook Air sales will go after IPad gets up to steam.
 
It has ASSISTED GPS, and only in the 3G enabled model. Without 3G coverage or a WiFi connection to get map data, it is almost useless (as is the iPhone under similar conditions).

You are such a fool, you know that. What you think does Assisted GPS mean? Hm? really, tell me. If you don't know, maybe you should google it.
 
This guy should buy an Android device and stop wasting his time drawing silly posters.
Oh and since when is "sharing music and books" legal again? Technically you can share you Apple-purchased music and books because they are not DRM protected. So what does this guy want?

Nice poster. For a completely fictional account of Apple's business. Apple has their foibles like any company, but overall they're pretty free and easy compared to some other popular brands. "Sharing music and books" has always been legal. It's only the "upload to filesharing services where hundreds of millions of people can get at them" definition of sharing that's illegal.
 
No, in fact, because you'll be able to download your photos and other files straight to it via devices that mount over the dock connector, as already revealed.

If you are only trying to say that "any files I have on a computer I already own will have to get transferred to this to use them!" well then... yes, you're right as far as that goes. Right, but pointless, because that's true anytime you buy a new device. :rolleyes:


Uhh my external HDD, sd-cards and USB flash drives which are full of resources, can all connect to the iPad through the dock connector (without a PC or Mac) and allow me to copy my EXISTING content to the device? I dont think so.

You're WAY off track. You said you dont need an existing PC or Mac to use in conjunction with the iPad to access your existing media. Which is incorrect. Then you contradicted yourself by saying the iPad syncs with a shared folder to your Mac or PC.

Seriously, if you're going to jump in on a comment, PLEASE read the whole thing - and maybe even try and understand it first before making a fool out of yourself.
 
In all likelihood, the iPad's A-GPS implementation merely uses a cellular data connection to locate via cell-tower position. This will not be useful for precise locations, including things like turn-by-turn, etc.

In all likelihood, you're making such a fool of yourself. Guess what, the iPhone has A-GPS as well. And - it must be sheer magic - location finding works perfectly when you don't have reception or wifis around.
 
If the camera would be there it would contradict the "move the ipad anyhow you want" message, since the camera will be located at 1 position you would be forced to hold the ipad a certain way.

There is no way SL will run on this, it's not a intel processor, therefor it will never happen.

I suspect that we saw a preview on what iphone OS4 will bring us in the future.
 
You are such a fool, you know that. What you think does Assisted GPS mean? Hm? really, tell me. If you don't know, maybe you should google it.

Actually, the 3G models back down to EDGE data if 3G is unavailable, so it doesn't need 3G coverage even for data -- check the specs. In fact, it doesn't need DATA coverage to triangulate off towers. It just needs compatible cell towers even if they are voice only.

Anyway, if I need a map I'll use my iPhone 3GS. But for people w/o smartphones as backup the WiFi only model will come up a little short in the mapping department. Provided you're out of range of WiFi. Hmm. In which case you can't call up a map off the Internet, anyway.

So, gee, guess it's not a problem, is it? You need always-on connection, get the 3G and pay for the service. For maps or whatever.
 
This was posted by Rob Sheridan on the mashable story and pretty much summarizes how I also feel about the iPad:

Everyone loves to jump on these things as soon as they get announced and tally up the list of missing features. Remember the outcry over the original iPhone? After it was announced it was quickly denounced as "a toy" by smartphone aficionados, and the lack of 3G, GPS, dev kit, SD slot, physical keyboard, Flash, and a myriad of other wishlist features were called out as "dealbreakers" left and right. But then people *used* it. And look where the iPhone is now. It's the biggest thing in the world, has had some amazing upgrades, and the detractors ate their words. Now here we are again, and Santa didn't bring the cynical geeks all the presents they asked for, and again it's a "fail" and a "dealbreaker," and again you're going to see this thing become massively popular, and by its third iteration be an awesomely powerful entertainment device that for many casual users replaces the need for a laptop AND a smartphone.

We geeks who obsess over this stuff all day may cry afoul over multitasking and HDMI, but does your Mom? Your kid brother? My Mom doesn't use her phone enough to feel the need for an iPhone, and she doesn't use her computer enough to need a laptop. But she'd probably LOVE to have this thing in the kitchen with her to browse recipes, or to read magazines on the couch while her husband watches sports. This is a mainstream device for casual users, and I think you'll find that many of them simply don't need a laptop, especially when there's a fun and pretty device that can do more or less everything they need to do. Non-geeks just want to read their email (check), browse the web (check), read magazines (check), check their Facebook (check), watch movies and YouTube (check), listen to music (check), etc. Oh, and the million other things they'll be able to do thanks to the apps that will be coming out for this thing.

As a geek and a poweruser, I wish there was multitasking. And a camera. And a USB port. And Flash. And HDMI. And I'm getting sick of Apple's closed ecosystem. But many of those things would add to the price tag, and this is a first-gen mass-market device to open up the door. To get things rolling. iPad 2 is going to have a camera, and GPS, and probably an evolution of the operating system that supports a form of multitasking. And by that time, you'll have played air hockey and chess with your friends on this thing, and experienced multimedia versions of your favorite magazines, and watched HD movies on the plane without hauling out your laptop, and I bet it's going to win people over more and more. The hype got the best of all of us, and there's a lot to be desired here, but I think it's going to evolve quickly, and win people over in a very surprising way.
 
He's not the only advocate of e-ink on this site. I am another. I didn't even think I had a problem reading LCD screens until I started reading my Kindle, and realized I always have a low-grade headache going on when I read a screen.

Everyone is different.

Many people talking about problems simply have their monitor adjusted too high. As a result, you have to constantly keep you chin up and your eyes too wide open. #1 will lead to neck and head aches for many people, #2 results in dry eyes for pretty much everyone. The upper end of your monitor should roughly be on the same level as your eyes.

Im not saying that's the case for you, I'm just saying that I see a LOT of people with badly adjusted monitors.
 
Uhh my external HDD, sd-cards and USB flash drives which are full of resources, can all connect to the iPad through the dock connector (without a PC or Mac) and allow me to copy my EXISTING content to the device? I dont think so.

You're WAY off track. You said you dont need an existing PC or Mac to use in conjunction with the iPad to access your existing media. Which is incorrect. Then you contradicted yourself by saying the iPad syncs with a shared folder to your Mac or PC.

Seriously, if you're going to jump in on a comment, PLEASE read the whole thing - and maybe even try and understand it first before making a fool out of yourself.

I'm a software engineer with a graduate degree, friend. I've written camera firmware and specialize in the relationship of data models, relational algebra, and user interaction. When you say something like "it requires a Mac or PC to sync with", you are saying that you CANNOT get documents, photos, contacts, music, etc onto the device without another computer.

Which is patently false. You can create a word processing document on this device; you can receive one in an e-mail, edit it, and send it back. You can move photos from your camera directly to this device.

if you have an Excel document on your computer and you want to get it on to this device for editing, you MAY need to sync it with your computer, or it may just as likely read it over the USB device. If that "sync" is required, it has NOTHING TO DO with your contention that this device "requires" a desktop--there is not "requirement" for a desktop, you're talking about a situation where it is a GIVEN THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE A DESKTOP and now you want to transfer a file from it. Yes, shockingly, if you have a desktop with a file on it that you want to get onto this device, you will somehow have to transfer it, possibly via a USB intermediary or possibly via direct transfer. We don't know yet.

But that is not a REQUIREMENT for a desktop, it's a consequence of ALREADY HAVING A DESKTOP and wanting to move files from it.

Understood yet?

Also, calling them "resources" and trying to condescendingly explain what a resource is doesn't make you sound smarter. "Resource" is a vague word that has different meanings depending on the problem domain--in the context of general purpose computing it essentially means "anything" and therefore nothing. I advise you to use words that mean specifically what you intend to say.
 
What kind of annoys me is that many developers we're taken off other jobs to concentrate on this ipad. Yes it looks nice, but it is just a bigger iphone so to me its not that revolutionary. Instead of spending all their time on this they could have been concentrating on things their customers are waiting for, for me I've been waiting on a digital camera driver for aperture for over 18 months now. Adobe manages it, why can't the might of Apple????
 
This is a good point.

That's not a good point at all. On my MacBook right now I have mail, Firefox, Yahoo messenger, Excel and iCal all open and running.

Have you ever used an iPhone app had to switch to get info from another app then have to restart the first app?

Multasking is a must.
 
I am disappointed. Looks like a iPod Touch with a bigger screen, and they will re-do the apps to take advantage of the bigger screen. Bid deal! However, I am still going to buy one! I just want to lord it over my friends!
 
This was posted by Rob Sheridan on the mashable story and pretty much summarizes how I also feel about the iPad:

Everyone loves to jump on these things as soon as they get announced and tally up the list of missing features. Remember the outcry over the original iPhone? After it was announced it was quickly denounced as "a toy" by smartphone aficionados, and the lack of 3G, GPS, dev kit, SD slot, physical keyboard, Flash, and a myriad of other wishlist features were called out as "dealbreakers" left and right. But then people *used* it. And look where the iPhone is now. It's the biggest thing in the world, has had some amazing upgrades, and the detractors ate their words. Now here we are again, and Santa didn't bring the cynical geeks all the presents they asked for, and again it's a "fail" and a "dealbreaker," and again you're going to see this thing become massively popular, and by its third iteration be an awesomely powerful entertainment device that for many casual users replaces the need for a laptop AND a smartphone.

We geeks who obsess over this stuff all day may cry afoul over multitasking and HDMI, but does your Mom? Your kid brother? My Mom doesn't use her phone enough to feel the need for an iPhone, and she doesn't use her computer enough to need a laptop. But she'd probably LOVE to have this thing in the kitchen with her to browse recipes, or to read magazines on the couch while her husband watches sports. This is a mainstream device for casual users, and I think you'll find that many of them simply don't need a laptop, especially when there's a fun and pretty device that can do more or less everything they need to do. Non-geeks just want to read their email (check), browse the web (check), read magazines (check), check their Facebook (check), watch movies and YouTube (check), listen to music (check), etc. Oh, and the million other things they'll be able to do thanks to the apps that will be coming out for this thing.

As a geek and a poweruser, I wish there was multitasking. And a camera. And a USB port. And Flash. And HDMI. And I'm getting sick of Apple's closed ecosystem. But many of those things would add to the price tag, and this is a first-gen mass-market device to open up the door. To get things rolling. iPad 2 is going to have a camera, and GPS, and probably an evolution of the operating system that supports a form of multitasking. And by that time, you'll have played air hockey and chess with your friends on this thing, and experienced multimedia versions of your favorite magazines, and watched HD movies on the plane without hauling out your laptop, and I bet it's going to win people over more and more. The hype got the best of all of us, and there's a lot to be desired here, but I think it's going to evolve quickly, and win people over in a very surprising way.


It is a fine point you bring up. My problem with Apple these days is the obvious release of a product that could have X Y + Z feature (sometimes a feature that is already available on other products), but they don't. They sell the 1st version to people that must have it and then slowly drip feed us with the other features a year or two later. I mean, people went nuts for the 2g iphone when 3g had been available on other makes of phones for years before that. Its all about getting people wanting the new thing and then making sure they'll want the next version of the new thing a year later with a basic extra added to it. I can't see why apple can't use it expertease and technical know how to come up with a real revolutionary device
 
Name??

This will fail because of the name - period.

btw - I'll buy one as soon as it is available but my wife just hate the name!
 
See, now it makes no sense to sell a physical keyboard accessory. Doesn't this defeat the purpose of the iPad? I have one of these iPads and Keyboards already - it's called the iBook. Funny how that name made its long overdue comeback too. ;)

It seems to me, if you buy the iPad, you aren't the customer looking for a physical keyboard - otherwise you'd buy a laptop. On the other side of the fence, if you do end up buying both, why on earth would you not just get a laptop. Getting both makes no sense. The people that get both shouldn't have gotten either.

It's a touchscreen tablet, people. Not a screen that needs a keyboard. That's an iMac. That's an iBook. Hell, people that gripe about the iPhone's lack of a keyboard are the ones that should have just gotten a Blackberry.

Stop griping. If you don't like it, don't get it. If you think this thing is the GodTablet, then buy it. The complaining on MacRumors about the just-release device is always worse than the outlandish rumors that lead up to it... :rolleyes:
 
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