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Apple Releases iPad Tablet, New SDK, iBooks and iWork Apps
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The guy is talking BS. There is no such warning about mobile phone radiation. He's even talking about "radioactivity" showing that he's completely clueless. If phones were radioactive... well ... that would be fun. All those five-legged teenagers...
No, in fact, because you'll be able to download your photos and other files straight to it via devices that mount over the dock connector, as already revealed.
If you are only trying to say that "any files I have on a computer I already own will have to get transferred to this to use them!" well then... yes, you're right as far as that goes. Right, but pointless, because that's true anytime you buy a new device.
Uhh maybe you should go back and read all the posts where i quoted the word "EXISTING" in bold and capitals so many times you couldn't miss it even if you tried.
But somehow you did miss it. Every time. If you are going to quote me, please get it right. Perhaps there's a graduate degree for that.
I agree, full blown OSX on a device like this with USB ports (or even mini-usb) would be fantastic.
It's pointless for iPad if Apple doesn't get FCC approval after 60/90 days depended on the models.
http://www.apple.com/ipad/
Fine print:
"This device has not yet been authorized as required by the rules of the Federal Communications Commission. This device is not, and may not be, offered for sale or lease, or sold or leased, until authorization is obtained."
http://www.apple.com/ipad/
Fine print:
"This device has not yet been authorized as required by the rules of the Federal Communications Commission. This device is not, and may not be, offered for sale or lease, or sold or leased, until authorization is obtained."
macaus: your point is that you can't get your existing content from your existing computer onto an iPad without using said existing computer. This is partially correct. It does seem photos can be uploaded without a computer, but other stuff seems unknown/unlikely.
coleridge78: your point is that this existing content has to come from a computer anyway, so it should be no big deal that you need a computer to get it on the iPad: you wouldn't have the content without a computer, so you obviously have a computer, so it's obviously not a big problem. And of course the iPad can be used to create NEW content or receive new content from the web/email.
So basically macaus is really saying he's upset you can't use existing storage mechanisms (CDs, DVDs, hard drives, USB stickes, etc.) to transfer data. coleridge78 is saying having to use a computer to do this is fine, because you obviously already have one. Somebody who has never owned a computer could theoretically use only an iPad and be just fine (buying content through apple, creating content, sending and receiving through email, uploading pictures through the dongle).
So you're both right, but making slightly different points.
Given that you already have 10,000 existing photos + music files, where do you store those IF NOT ON YOUR COMPUTER???
Single reason: They have done that to streamline their manufacturing capacities. There was no outcry for 16:9 computer monitors I can think of.
I've seen the demos, yes.
Microsoft Surface (quoting Wikipedia):
Surface is a 30-inch (76 cm) display in a table-like form factor, 22 inches (56 cm) high, 21 inches (53 cm) deep, and 42 inches (107 cm) wide.[17]. The Surface tabletop is acrylic, and its interior frame is powder-coated steel.
So what exactly has this anything to do with 7" or 10" tablet computers?
Very well said. People are comparing it way too much to a full blown laptop, and thats not what it's trying to be. It Destroys the Kindle. Think about what a NETbook really is...its a cheap laptop as SJ said and all they do is go on the web for the most part. The Kindle DX is $489 and its SELLING.
How can people say its a "flop" when it does 100x more then any E-book reader and the user experience is way better for the same price.
Lastly. I think people really underestimate how much the user experience will be enhanced by simply having a bigger screen. I don't know about you guys, but I don't buy books or magazines on my iPhone simply cause i dont feel like reading them on a 3.5" screen. I also think that playing certain games (chess, air-hockey, scrabble, monopoly, etc) will be a lot more fun. I compare it to watching TV on a 15" screen vs a 40"...you're gonna be watching the same thing but you can't tell me that watching sports on a 15" has the same user experience as watching it on a 40"
Hat's off the Apple for once again creating an amazing platform that will change how we go about our day.
I'm very impressed with the device. Even though when I was watching the keynote (I finished it 30 mins ago) I really thought it was great, I knew the people here at MacRumors will just complain and complain and complain and bitch and complain and pout and complain more.
I'm not going to read all 42 pages of bitching but I want to reply to some points I found.
I will admit, however, I'm not too fond of the name.
I'm not going to read all 42 pages of bitching but I want to reply to some points I found.
I suggest you watch the keynote and read about it's features.. because it's A LOT more powerful than an iPod Touch and can do a lot more than the iPod Touch.a lot of people said:
Again, either watch the keynote, or learn more about the device. Sure, it might share the same kernel and have a similar UI as the iPhone OS, but the applications are what entertains you and allows you to get work done in this category. Did any of you see how everything was optimized for the tablet's power and screen space? Such as the new iWork for the iPad and the iTunes and what not? Did you see the Google maps and youtube? Honestly, learn about something before you post. And besides, why would you want OSX on a touch screen? As of now, 10.6 would not work well for a touch screen.Morons said:
I will admit, however, I'm not too fond of the name.
Wait
I've been screwed too many times on 1st gen Apple products. I've basically paid to "beta test" the newest Apple device only to find the 2nd gen fixes the majority of the problems for far less money.
That being said, I love this idea but....
...i'll wait for:
1) Flash support within the browser (yes, flash sucks, but it's necessary today)
2) Real apps - not iPhone apps that have been up-rez'd. Wait 6 months - there will be plenty of iPad-tuned applications.
3) A front facing video cam/camera - come on... this is an obvious feature for the iPad - video conferencing (iChat), facial recognition, etc. I can't believe they left this out.
4) SD card slot. Apple has them on the iMacs. Give us one way to get things on/off and, give us a way to increase storage as it gets cheaper - SD is obvious. At the rate SSD prices are going down, don't lock us in to the tiny storage that is affordable today (64GB is puny for a media device). An SD slot could be used to expand storage as it becomes cheaper. Btw, the camera adapters are a JOKE.
5) Wireless synch. Let me synch over my wireless network. Better yet, let me synch over the internet. Really? A 32 pin iPod/iPhone tether? That's awful. The idea is that the iPad is wireless... give me a magsafe charger and that's it. See "future possibilities" below - get rid of the wires.
6) GPS. How is this missing? Like the front facing camera and an SD slot - I suspect cost/price impact. So many apps use location services... this cripples the device.
7) Lose the dock/keyboard accessory - the iPad supports bluetooth. Apple sells bluetooth keyboards. The camera accessory and the dock accessory are both so un-Apple-like - so is the cover - since when does Apple make accessories? I remember Palm Pilots having a similar keyboard dock - it was just lame. It feels like Apple is hedging that the on-screen keyboard wont work... let people buy a laptop if they want a real keyboard. Make a good enough synch system and nobody will need a keyboard.
Future possibilities:
1) Wireless displays - Put the iPad down near a larger display/computer monitor. Watch movies, use it as a desktop computer... Use a bluetooth keyboard with it at the same time...use the iPad as a giant trackpad/pointing device.
2) Induction charging - no wires... Palm Pre does it. So does my electric toothbrush. Wireless guys... come on, keep up Apple.
This thing has serious potential. I'll buy it when the potential is realized. I'm done beta testing for Apple.
I've been screwed too many times on 1st gen Apple products. I've basically paid to "beta test" the newest Apple device only to find the 2nd gen fixes the majority of the problems for far less money.
That being said, I love this idea but....
...i'll wait for:
1) Flash support within the browser (yes, flash sucks, but it's necessary today)
2) Real apps - not iPhone apps that have been up-rez'd. Wait 6 months - there will be plenty of iPad-tuned applications.
3) A front facing video cam/camera - come on... this is an obvious feature for the iPad - video conferencing (iChat), facial recognition, etc. I can't believe they left this out.
4) SD card slot. Apple has them on the iMacs. Give us one way to get things on/off and, give us a way to increase storage as it gets cheaper - SD is obvious. At the rate SSD prices are going down, don't lock us in to the tiny storage that is affordable today (64GB is puny for a media device). An SD slot could be used to expand storage as it becomes cheaper. Btw, the camera adapters are a JOKE.
5) Wireless synch. Let me synch over my wireless network. Better yet, let me synch over the internet. Really? A 32 pin iPod/iPhone tether? That's awful. The idea is that the iPad is wireless... give me a magsafe charger and that's it. See "future possibilities" below - get rid of the wires.
6) GPS. How is this missing? Like the front facing camera and an SD slot - I suspect cost/price impact. So many apps use location services... this cripples the device.
7) Lose the dock/keyboard accessory - the iPad supports bluetooth. Apple sells bluetooth keyboards. The camera accessory and the dock accessory are both so un-Apple-like - so is the cover - since when does Apple make accessories? I remember Palm Pilots having a similar keyboard dock - it was just lame. It feels like Apple is hedging that the on-screen keyboard wont work... let people buy a laptop if they want a real keyboard. Make a good enough synch system and nobody will need a keyboard.
Future possibilities:
1) Wireless displays - Put the iPad down near a larger display/computer monitor. Watch movies, use it as a desktop computer... Use a bluetooth keyboard with it at the same time...use the iPad as a giant trackpad/pointing device.
2) Induction charging - no wires... Palm Pre does it. So does my electric toothbrush. Wireless guys... come on, keep up Apple.
This thing has serious potential. I'll buy it when the potential is realized. I'm done beta testing for Apple.
This is definitely an unusual device.
For me personally, it seems like a giant iPod touch with a fancier UI in some apps, not all.
I can see how some content providers would want to take advantage of it. For instance, "magazines" and "newspapers". But for me personally, I couldn't care less about magazines and newspapers. I'll continue getting information the way I have for years, by looking at a website.
For video, its a huge fail. A 4x3 screen Apple? Really? Not to mention a paltry 16GB at $499. When you consider the fact that DVDs will need to be encoded at least at native DVD resolution and higher bitrates to look good on that screen, you're going to run out of room extremely fast.
A part of me wants one, but a part of me doesn't. The tech loving part of me that has to have the latest gadgets wants it, because it could definitely replace laptops around the house. But the sensible side of me is saying I can get nearly the exact same thing in a 64GB 3G iPod touch that holds a lot more for $100 less, does all of the same stuff (minus the eBook stuff, which I couldn't care less about), and fits in my pocket and can go with me everywhere.
For me personally, it seems like a giant iPod touch with a fancier UI in some apps, not all.
I can see how some content providers would want to take advantage of it. For instance, "magazines" and "newspapers". But for me personally, I couldn't care less about magazines and newspapers. I'll continue getting information the way I have for years, by looking at a website.
For video, its a huge fail. A 4x3 screen Apple? Really? Not to mention a paltry 16GB at $499. When you consider the fact that DVDs will need to be encoded at least at native DVD resolution and higher bitrates to look good on that screen, you're going to run out of room extremely fast.
A part of me wants one, but a part of me doesn't. The tech loving part of me that has to have the latest gadgets wants it, because it could definitely replace laptops around the house. But the sensible side of me is saying I can get nearly the exact same thing in a 64GB 3G iPod touch that holds a lot more for $100 less, does all of the same stuff (minus the eBook stuff, which I couldn't care less about), and fits in my pocket and can go with me everywhere.
I'll readily admit that the part of your post that's a tautology is the part that isn't false.
Yes, if you have existing media somewhere, you'll have to get it on to this thing. It won't magically appear.
We already know that for at least some of that media it won't require a sync (digital photos on an SD card or camera, and anything you have on a MobileMe account or otherwise available over the wire). I'm not sure why you're so convinced that getting stuff off a USB stick will require a sync with a computer rather than being able to be mounted like an SD card.
Your original post sounded like the old, tired, false argument: "I have to use iTunes to sync everything, and I hate iTunes!" If that wasn't what you meant, hey, cheers and no sweat. But let's be clear: this thing is perfectly capable of existing independent of a desktop computer, otherwise I wouldn't be buying it (I own *no* computer, and only occasionally bring a laptop home from work when necessary).
See, now it makes no sense to sell a physical keyboard accessory. Doesn't this defeat the purpose of the iPad? I have one of these iPads and Keyboards already - it's called the iBook. Funny how that name made its long overdue comeback too.
It seems to me, if you buy the iPad, you aren't the customer looking for a physical keyboard - otherwise you'd buy a laptop. On the other side of the fence, if you do end up buying both, why on earth would you not just get a laptop. Getting both makes no sense. The people that get both shouldn't have gotten either.
It's a touchscreen tablet, people. Not a screen that needs a keyboard. That's an iMac. That's an iBook. Hell, people that gripe about the iPhone's lack of a keyboard are the ones that should have just gotten a Blackberry.
Stop griping. If you don't like it, don't get it. If you think this thing is the GodTablet, then buy it. The complaining on MacRumors about the just-release device is always worse than the outlandish rumors that lead up to it...
Well, the point is that the iPad plus keyboard combination is modular. When you don't need to do a lot of fast touch typing, you leave the keyboard at home (or in the other room). Otherwise, you toss both parts in your bag and off you go.
I'll readily admit that the part of your post that's a tautology is the part that isn't false.
Yes, if you have existing media somewhere, you'll have to get it on to this thing. It won't magically appear.
We already know that for at least some of that media it won't require a sync (digital photos on an SD card or camera, and anything you have on a MobileMe account or otherwise available over the wire). I'm not sure why you're so convinced that getting stuff off a USB stick will require a sync with a computer rather than being able to be mounted like an SD card.
Your original post sounded like the old, tired, false argument: "I have to use iTunes to sync everything, and I hate iTunes!" If that wasn't what you meant, hey, cheers and no sweat. But let's be clear: this thing is perfectly capable of existing independent of a desktop computer, otherwise I wouldn't be buying it (I own *no* computer, and only occasionally bring a laptop home from work when necessary).
My original post was in response to all those posts from people carrying on that this device is an amazing revolution and is going to replace notebooks/netbooks/graphics tablets/microwaves/cats/dogs/the human brain (you get my drift).
I merely pointed out that it couldn't replace any of these devices as you would still need them to get your existing content to the device, and facilitate treansferring (most) new content to it.
That is all. It was to point out that this isn't some magic device to replace your computer as a LOT of people have been saying.
That's when you jumped on board saying that it wasn't true, my comments were false, that you dont need a computer to get your existing content onto the device. But in fact, you do. (except for photos directly from a camera).
I applaud the fact that you think you can use this device soely on its own without a computer at all - which was the whole point i was raising from the beginning. But it cant.
I am VERY interested in how you are going to get your existing itunes library, photo library, PDF files, etc onto your new iPad - without the use of a computer. Not to mention how you will manage, track and backup these files without a computer.
My original post didn't sounds like anything else other than what i specifically said. I say what i mean. Like i said a few posts back, if you took the time to read what i said properly instead of scanning over it and jumping to conclusions (and down my throat) then maybe you would have seen the original point of my post - which you clearly missed.
Don't worry
1 year later ; add camera
2 years later add flash
3 years later add gps
4 years later add multitasking
1 year later ; add camera
2 years later add flash
3 years later add gps
4 years later add multitasking
I overall do like it, It does 50 percent of what I use a laptop for, and it would be a great travel companion instead of lugging the laptop around.
Lack of camera doesn't bother me, I dunno what it is with people on this thread and cameras. Video chat would be cool I guess, but not what i would use a device like this for. I love the big screen, it would make watching movies awesome on a plane or if you were cooped up in the car or somewhere. Potential gaming option, we'll see where that goes. However.. the deal was broken when I found out it doesn't do flash... Seriously.. still? Flash is used in several of my common website visits. And its used everywhere for embedded content. How can you sell an internet device that doesn't have flash capability? I accepted it on the iphone, cause well.. hey.. its a phone first. But this being the purpose of the device. That makes no sense, and I was going to get one for a couch surfer/travel device, but in the end.. it wouldn't be effective at surfing the web. Maybe next version, or maybe someone will hack it to run linux that will have full browsing capabilities.
Lack of camera doesn't bother me, I dunno what it is with people on this thread and cameras. Video chat would be cool I guess, but not what i would use a device like this for. I love the big screen, it would make watching movies awesome on a plane or if you were cooped up in the car or somewhere. Potential gaming option, we'll see where that goes. However.. the deal was broken when I found out it doesn't do flash... Seriously.. still? Flash is used in several of my common website visits. And its used everywhere for embedded content. How can you sell an internet device that doesn't have flash capability? I accepted it on the iphone, cause well.. hey.. its a phone first. But this being the purpose of the device. That makes no sense, and I was going to get one for a couch surfer/travel device, but in the end.. it wouldn't be effective at surfing the web. Maybe next version, or maybe someone will hack it to run linux that will have full browsing capabilities.
Macbooks are too big, they don't have touch screens, and they have this annoying thing that gets in the way when you want to use it as a tablet ... it's called a keyboard. Chopping it off is detrimental to both the device's core functions and the warranty.
Macbooks are completely unsuited to this market space. Unfortunately, so is the iPad.
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