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I've been screwed too many times on 1st gen Apple products. I've basically paid to "beta test" the newest Apple device only to find the 2nd gen fixes the majority of the problems for far less money.

That being said, I love this idea but....

...i'll wait for:

1) Flash support within the browser (yes, flash sucks, but it's necessary today)

2) Real apps - not iPhone apps that have been up-rez'd. Wait 6 months - there will be plenty of iPad-tuned applications.

3) A front facing video cam/camera - come on... this is an obvious feature for the iPad - video conferencing (iChat), facial recognition, etc. I can't believe they left this out.

4) SD card slot. Apple has them on the iMacs. Give us one way to get things on/off and, give us a way to increase storage as it gets cheaper - SD is obvious. At the rate SSD prices are going down, don't lock us in to the tiny storage that is affordable today (64GB is puny for a media device). An SD slot could be used to expand storage as it becomes cheaper. Btw, the camera adapters are a JOKE.

5) Wireless synch. Let me synch over my wireless network. Better yet, let me synch over the internet. Really? A 32 pin iPod/iPhone tether? That's awful. The idea is that the iPad is wireless... give me a magsafe charger and that's it. See "future possibilities" below - get rid of the wires.

6) GPS. How is this missing? Like the front facing camera and an SD slot - I suspect cost/price impact. So many apps use location services... this cripples the device.

7) Lose the dock/keyboard accessory - the iPad supports bluetooth. Apple sells bluetooth keyboards. The camera accessory and the dock accessory are both so un-Apple-like - so is the cover - since when does Apple make accessories? I remember Palm Pilots having a similar keyboard dock - it was just lame. It feels like Apple is hedging that the on-screen keyboard wont work... let people buy a laptop if they want a real keyboard. Make a good enough synch system and nobody will need a keyboard.

Future possibilities:

1) Wireless displays - Put the iPad down near a larger display/computer monitor. Watch movies, use it as a desktop computer... Use a bluetooth keyboard with it at the same time...use the iPad as a giant trackpad/pointing device.

2) Induction charging - no wires... Palm Pre does it. So does my electric toothbrush. Wireless guys... come on, keep up Apple.

This thing has serious potential. I'll buy it when the potential is realized. I'm done beta testing for Apple.
I agree with almost everything you've laid out here. I was waiting to have the use case for this thing laid out for me and I'm still not seeing it-- the oversights you mention make it impractical as a toy.

Where I disagree-- I don't give a hoot about Flash. It's a scourge anyway, I'm happy to be without it.

What's the fascination with inductive charging? It's not wireless-- it's just a different way of attaching the wires. You still need a dock, and you still need to plug in the dock. Your toothbrush is inductively charged because that makes it cheaper and easier to seal. The Pre is inductively charged because, well, they needed a hook-- the Pre doesn't even get rid of the standard charger, they make you put a backplate on the thing.

And then I need to pack the silly hotplate every time I travel with the charger? Simple cables (and I agree with doing away with the dock connector and going straight mag-safe) make portable chargers much more portable.
 
Think about it...

This IS a revolutionary product: for the first time in history you'll be able to read a book on a portable mirror. Ain't that amazing?
 
I doubt anyone does - good catch. You should post this observation to as many message boards as you can.


Looks like it caught on already. Feels good to be hotter than the press, you wouldn't know.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/maggieshiels/2010/01/the_morning_after_the_tablet.html


Here, it was all about the "State of the Slate"; the slate, as many of you know, is another name for a tablet computer, and the phrase is my lame attempt at a topical quip.

Talking of names, the now-unveiled tablet is called the iPad, a name that has been causing quite a bit of female mirth.

If you are of a sensitive nature, please look away from the next few paragraphs. On Twitter, this Fast Company headline was tweeted like crazy: "Apple's iPad name not the first choice for women. Period."

The New York Times notes that it was not just women who were surprised by the choice of name from a company that plans things down to the very last detail.
 
A Must Buy

I'll be picking one up when available in New Zealand, I can see it sitting on my entertainment unit displaying all my photos as a slide show and when I need to check my email or use the net all I have to do is grab it or use the remote app to control iTunes or my AppleTV, perfect!

It will replace my MacBook that is used mainly for web and email.

For all those people complain about it not having a camera for video conferencing, do you plan holding the iPad for the whole time while video conferencing?
 
I can't help but wonder what people were expecting or what rumours they've been reading.

Rumours have been describing this as an iPhone on steroids. It was pretty much everything I was expecting it to be and I think as iPad specific apps start to appear it'll just get better.

Personally speaking, I didn't want a camera on it. I've owned phones capable of video calling and never used the feature. I have a Macbook and never use the camera so the lack of one on this is a non issue for me.

The lack of Flash could be an issue but I'm hoping more sites follow YouTube in using html5 rather than flash.

In 60 days time I'm stumping up for one of these and buying one for my parents too as I think this will be perfect for them to finally get online.
 
That's not a good point at all. On my MacBook right now I have mail, Firefox, Yahoo messenger, Excel and iCal all open and running.

Have you ever used an iPhone app had to switch to get info from another app then have to restart the first app?

Multasking is a must.

Please be more accurate in your descriptions - without meaning to be rude, your sounding a little tech-illiterate

Lets be clear - iPhone OS has multi-tasking OSX underneath. iPhone OS is running tons of concurrent threads all the time. It is VERY much multi-tasking.

What it just doesn't support is running multiple USER apps at the same time. That's what you have a beef about.

And as long as the core apps open quickly enough is there really any perceptible difference between what you call 'having lots of apps open' and what the iPhone OS does? i.e hitting home, app quits, click other app, ii launches - if that is a FASTER operating protocol than a device that swaps the app out of memory and then slowly switches to another already 'running application' (which in truth is mainly stored in a partitioned swapfile and not actually running) then it is a BETTER thing right?

Especially since it 100% removes the risk of idiots leaving dozens of apps needlessly running and taking memory and cpu cycles and killing the OS ( winbom - sorry, winmob)

Don't forget push-notifiaction deals with the I/O requirements of application concurrency.
 
iPad not worh the name APPLE?

No camera (= no iChat / Skype etc. - no VoIP??)
No MacOS (???? -> filtered by iTunes!!)
eBooks & newspapers only by iTunesStore (greetings from George Orwell)
No multitasking (uuuaaah)
64GB for $ 999 (Utilization of capacity on my iPod today > 64GB - music, audiobooks and few selected movies only)
Handheld? How to type?
Kneeheld? Watch your b**ls!
Flat on the table? Funny moviewatching!
 
More than just a passing resemblance anyone!? :]

IpadConceptreality.jpg


Would it be too egotistical or presumptious to be flattered? ;)

I think at least a gift wrapped top of the line iPad with a note from Steve and Jonathon was in order!? :D

Adam
 
I never get to yell First! So I may as well yell Last!

After reading all the insane speculation people have been spreading the last few months, I find myself disappointed with the reality. I guess that's what they were paid to do, so: Good Job!

I love the people accusing Apple of "hype." They haven't said word one about this device, or even acknowledged its existence till today. This is a definition of "hype" with which I am unfamiliar.

I can see a definite market for this, but it has a couple of holes for me that won't get me to pull out my wallet. It has a few points I'm happy about, though. Unlike some on this board, I'm very happy they didn't go with a stick-of-gum 9:16 aspect ratio. The 3:4 is perfect for e-books and Standard-Definition video.

We knew it would be an e-book reader, but unfortunately it's not an e-book reader for me. I'm not going to pay $15 for some best-seller and only get a text file. If I can't transfer the 4800+ titles I've downloaded from Project Gutenberg, Google Books, Internet Archive, manybooks.net, Blackmask, etc., in HTML, PDF, and DjVu formats to this device and read them on the go, then it's not an e-book reader.

As far as video goes, I was hopeful. The iPhone and IPT are only 320 lines high. I'm not about to watch, and certainly not pay for, any video that's not at least Standard-def. I was assuming that the iPad would be capable of showing 720p at least. 1024 x 768? WTH is this? I'd be happier if it was 640 x 480—at least then you could watch SDTV in native resolution and 720p in half-resolution, but showing each pixel as it comes in. As it is, 96% and 93.75% respectively of the pixels on your screen are going to be calculated, on the fly, by a mobile processor. Um, no thanks.

Here's an interesting piece of numerology: If you take the dot pitch of the iPhone and figure the size of the ideal screen resolution, 1280 x 960 (720p native resolution, SDTV line-doubled) you get exactly 9.7"! What do you want to bet that's what the iPad was supposed to have, and they couldn't get the quantities or the price they wanted? Maybe a later revision will have it, and then I may buy one.

No camera? Meh. I remember when the iPhone came out, a lot of people were bitching that they should offer one without a camera, because it would get confiscated at the security desk a lot of places. Now people are bitching because this doesn't have a camera. (I wonder how many are the same people?) Getting your phone nicked might be an annoyance, but what if they confiscate your iPad you were going to make your presentation with? Oopsie-daisy!

No Flash? Bravo! Flash would be a deal-breaker if I couldn't kill it with something like ClickToFlash.

Somebody upthread was complaining that they were expecting the textbook implementation to allow notes in the margin and highlighting. We haven't seen those things yet, and we don't know that they won't. Imagine calling up the keyboard, typing a short note in a box, like a sticky, and dragging it with your finger to some point in the margin. This would be better than handwriting, IMO. And I'll be very surprised if you can't highlight in various colors with your finger.

The keyboard dock, and the ability to use other bluetooth keyboards is a huge deal, I think. This would allow you to do a lot of things you ordinarily need a laptop for, but you don't have to carry it around with you.

I'm really torn over this—it looks cool, and the price is right. If I'm wrong about being able to transfer e-books to it, and can read HTML and PDF (I know DjVu was probably a non-starter since even desktop Safari can't use its DjVu plugin to read local files, and has to have a standalone reader), and if the pixel interpolation is better than I'm afraid it is, I might buy one anyway. I just remember when they were trying to flog HDTVs with 768 lines, and you could see 12 or 24 bands across the screen from across the room due to roundoff error !
 
iPad not for me

1. No camera.... unbelievable.

2. No LAN (if in a hotel and wireless not available and no 3G roaming)

3. Something physically this big and it only has max 64mb memory.... what the f#$@?????!!

4. 1.0GHZ processor but no capability of multiple applications open at once = why bother.

5. Wobbles when you type with it sitting on a table as the back of it is curved.

6. No landscape docking or landscape home button.

7. Can add a keyboard but not a mouse if you wanted to use one.

8. No inbuilt flash player so where's the ultimate internet experience?

9. No inbuilt USB.

10. Not stand alone - needs a PC or Mac to put music etc onto it.

hmmmm I guess it is Version 1.0 but I think apple have been lazy here as it is just a giant iPod Touch.
I am sure users are going to be using the inbuilt compass daily.....

I love Mac, I own 8 apple products but unfortunately this won't be one of them, what a shame.

what do you think?
 
iPad Haters - Shut Up Already!

We need to change this forum from MacRumors to MacSpeculation followed by MacWhining.

I get it..you wanted a tablet with:
A camera, front and back with video conferencing
Flash (both photographic and web plug-in)
Capabilities of an iPhone AND MacBook Pro
Something that had 500+ GB storage
The ability to play WOW on your couch
Firewire 800, Lightspeed, etc.
Encoding a HD movie while you check email AND Photoshop your professional photo project
A longer battery life
A full SL installed OS
etc...etc..etc...

So many spent years dreaming up a product that CANNOT IN 2010 EXIST IN THE FORM FACTOR OF A TABLET, that you convinced yourself that the future can be had today. Of course you are disappointed. You are like kids at Christmas who spent all year jockeying for a gift that was never going to happen, who can't appreciate the decent gift you were given on Christmas Day.

With a tablet form factor, processing power available, battery technology available, and set price points, you got the best Apple could do. It does what it was designed to do...99% of what MOST normal people do in a computer: surf the web, look at photos/video, check email. Heck, you even get a mini office suite of applications that look functional. The next few months will bring apps that will take the iPad from the living room and into business/education applications. Are you a power user...you should not, in 2010, EVER think you will get what you need in a tablet form factor. You require a desktop...portable wont do. However, when my MacPro is doing all the things listed above, and I want to step into my living room, sit on my couch, and do what I spend most of my time in front af a computer doing, the iPad seems about right. And now with the possibility of VoIP, and an app to control my AV system...I may never leave my couch except to got to the bathroom and get some food...and then the iPad can go with me. I look forward to some enterprising app developer to allow me to take an iPad into a patient room and chart on it, replacing what I do on paper (I've found staring at computer screens while interviewing patients prevents eye contact).

There is a lot to criticize Apple for (languishing AppleTV, the narrow gap and high price differential between iMacs and MacPro lines, etc.). However, for what they set out to do, I think they did pretty well. Will there be advances over time...of course (compare original iPhone to iPhone 3GS). Be happy. The iPad will make a lot of current Apple consumers happy, and will likely bring many new user into the fold.
 
It does what it was designed to do...99% of what MOST normal people do in a computer: surf the web, look at photos/video, check email. Heck, you even get a mini office suite of applications that look functional.

... and I thought that most people like to have more than one program open, how stupid I must be! Well, I guess 99% of normal people wait until their instant messenger window pops up a message from someone. Too bad they have to wait until that conversation is over until they can surf the web.
 
... and I thought that most people like to have more than one program open, how stupid I must be! Well, I guess 99% of normal people wait until their instant messenger window pops up a message from someone. Too bad they have to wait until that conversation is over until they can surf the web.

Why? I wait until i get a background alert from Beejive, then i open it an continue my conversation. Now, it's true the iPad has the screen resolution to show both on the screen, which the iPhone doesn't... But you're making it sound like you have to end your IM and log out of the chat server in order to check a web page.
 
... and I thought that most people like to have more than one program open, how stupid I must be! Well, I guess 99% of normal people wait until their instant messenger window pops up a message from someone. Too bad they have to wait until that conversation is over until they can surf the web.

And this will likely come with the next software update.
 
1. No camera.... unbelievable.
2. No LAN (if in a hotel and wireless not available and no 3G roaming)
3. Something physically this big and it only has max 64mb memory.... what the f#$@?????!!
4. 1.0GHZ processor but no capability of multiple applications open at once = why bother.
5. Wobbles when you type with it sitting on a table as the back of it is curved.
6. No landscape docking or landscape home button.
7. Can add a keyboard but not a mouse if you wanted to use one.
8. No inbuilt flash player so where's the ultimate internet experience?
9. No inbuilt USB.
10. Not stand alone - needs a PC or Mac to put music etc onto it.

hmmmm I guess it is Version 1.0 but I think apple have been lazy here as it is just a giant iPhone.
I am sure users are going to be using the inbuilt compass daily.....

Hopefully there will be some really cool augmented reality apps that use the compass..

I love Mac, I own 8 apple products but unfortunately this won't be one of them, what a shame.

what do you think?

i Think...

1.Sucks but not a deal breaker, unless video conferencing was the primary reason you wanted a tablet.

2.First time i heard someone complain about this on this type of device... Do you regularly go to places where *neither* 3G nor wifi works?

3.You mean 64 gigs of flash storage? Sounds like quite a bit for this kind of device. In fact 32 gigs was enough for me with a netbook running Snow Leopard... I guess unless you want to use it as a movie library that you never have to sync, in which case yeah i guess 64 gigs would be small. But i can't see easily filling 64 gigs with apps and documents.

4.Because a 1 ghz processor running the *foreground app*, you know, the most important app, makes it "blazingly fast" (as the gizmodo reviewer put it). Because then it can handle things like iWork and even better games than the iphone 3GS. Either way, I think 3rd party background apps will be on it later in the year.

5. Is that confirmed? If so that kinda sucks... Im just wondering if a hands-on reviewer reported that. It looks like it's just tapered at the edges.. Not totally round all the way to the center of the back like you could spit it around on the desk like a top :)

6. If you're holding it in landscape mode, why is it really hard to hit the button on the right or left?

7. Of course you can't add a mouse, the OS is designed for touch. Maybe you want to use the top surface of a Mighty Mouse with it though ;)

9. The dock connector contains "inbuilt USB", but your problem here is probably the software to use whatever you want the USB port for.

10. I'd rather keep my music on my mac at home, and stream it to the iPad if necessary- but i think the iPhone or iPod is a better music player anyway (and most people always have their phone with them).
 
Is Apple going to develop custom processors for all of their products?

I want to see the benchmarks for this.

Just to clear this up. The A4 is not a custom "processor" it is a custom SOC (System On a Chip). The A4 use an ARM processing core with custom peripherals, including GPU in this case. Apple is one of the founding members of ARM which as a company designs processing cores and licenses them to third parties who can also create custom SOCs for use by further third parties to place in products.
 
Apple's ipad... (snip long marketing blurb)

Um... you sound like you're reading a marketing sheet from Apple. Oh... looks like you're trying to advertise your services and just joined today. Makes sense now. :)

Not sure how you downloaded iBook app since it's not in the App Store. (maybe a dev account download?)

Interestingly, there is a "iBookstore" in there that's not from Apple. I wonder if Apple knew that someone already used the term iBookstore already and in Apple's own AppStore. They have the trademark to iBooks from the old laptop name, of course, but iBookstore is a different word technicly. I'd guess that Campusbooks.com is going to get a nice little payment soon for that. :)
 
I apologize if this has already been discussed or if I should somehow just know the answer to this question. I often make presentations at conferences, and create them with Powerpoint on a PC (don't have a choice, it's what my company uses, I have an iMac at home). I would love to be able to just take and use the iPad (I don't like the name by the way, would have preferred iTab) with me. Does anyone know yet if I can put my presentations on this device and then connect it when I speak? My work gave me a Dell PC Laptop for this, but the thing is big, heavy, and clunky, and when I travel, I'd much prefer to have the iPad for so many other things. Thanks!
 
I apologize if this has already been discussed or if I should somehow just know the answer to this question. I often make presentations at conferences, and create them with Powerpoint on a PC (don't have a choice, it's what my company uses, I have an iMac at home). I would love to be able to just take and use the iPad (I don't like the name by the way, would have preferred iTab) with me. Does anyone know yet if I can put my presentations on this device and then connect it when I speak? My work gave me a Dell PC Laptop for this, but the thing is big, heavy, and clunky, and when I travel, I'd much prefer to have the iPad for so many other things. Thanks!

You should probably start a thread for a question like this. Keynote can import PowerPoint presentations, and the iPad does have external display support. You would probably have to do the importing and converting on a Mac and then sync it to the iPad (my guess). So in theory, the answer is yes.
 
I've been screwed too many times on 1st gen Apple products. I've basically paid to "beta test" the newest Apple device only to find the 2nd gen fixes the majority of the problems for far less money.

That being said, I love this idea but....

...i'll wait for:

1) Flash support within the browser (yes, flash sucks, but it's necessary today)

2) Real apps - not iPhone apps that have been up-rez'd. Wait 6 months - there will be plenty of iPad-tuned applications.

3) A front facing video cam/camera - come on... this is an obvious feature for the iPad - video conferencing (iChat), facial recognition, etc. I can't believe they left this out.

4) SD card slot. Apple has them on the iMacs. Give us one way to get things on/off and, give us a way to increase storage as it gets cheaper - SD is obvious. At the rate SSD prices are going down, don't lock us in to the tiny storage that is affordable today (64GB is puny for a media device). An SD slot could be used to expand storage as it becomes cheaper. Btw, the camera adapters are a JOKE.

5) Wireless synch. Let me synch over my wireless network. Better yet, let me synch over the internet. Really? A 32 pin iPod/iPhone tether? That's awful. The idea is that the iPad is wireless... give me a magsafe charger and that's it. See "future possibilities" below - get rid of the wires.

6) GPS. How is this missing? Like the front facing camera and an SD slot - I suspect cost/price impact. So many apps use location services... this cripples the device.

7) Lose the dock/keyboard accessory - the iPad supports bluetooth. Apple sells bluetooth keyboards. The camera accessory and the dock accessory are both so un-Apple-like - so is the cover - since when does Apple make accessories? I remember Palm Pilots having a similar keyboard dock - it was just lame. It feels like Apple is hedging that the on-screen keyboard wont work... let people buy a laptop if they want a real keyboard. Make a good enough synch system and nobody will need a keyboard.

Future possibilities:

1) Wireless displays - Put the iPad down near a larger display/computer monitor. Watch movies, use it as a desktop computer... Use a bluetooth keyboard with it at the same time...use the iPad as a giant trackpad/pointing device.

2) Induction charging - no wires... Palm Pre does it. So does my electric toothbrush. Wireless guys... come on, keep up Apple.

This thing has serious potential. I'll buy it when the potential is realized. I'm done beta testing for Apple.

The comment about keyboards is just stupid. I can get a great tablet plus a physical keyboard for $560 ... and this is wrong why? Because you're so narrowminded that I clearly should be forced to buy a laptop instead? I want to use a physical keyboard if I'm writing something long and Apple's providing it. But you think this is wrong for some aesthetic reason? By the way, the fold-up Palm keyboard was awesome.
 
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