Apple Releases iPhone Firmware 2.1 Beta 3

[wizard]

I didn't realise people actually USED the contacts app! Why bother having an icon for it when you can just click on the Phone button?

I'm surprised that people just don't get it. A full fledged contacts app offers a lot of potential over the phone app. Especially when you intend to make a contact that doesn't involve a voice mail. Contact App is where I often go first when I need to communicate with someone.

Besides that a well fleshed out contacts app ought to offer more features than a phone dialer. When you open up phone the idea is to get quick access to (surprise) phone numbers. A good contacts app offer the ability to manage a lot more info with respect to a contact.



Dave

 

[DeanCorp]

Could someone who is using 2.1 Beta 3 please tell me if this has fixed that issue with the new Bose Sound Dock Portable. According to Apple and Bose they said the next software update after 2.0.1 will fix this issue.

Basically, if you put a 3G iPhone into the Bose Sound Dock Portable, after 5 minutes you will hear this loud popping noise coming from the speaker which will interrupt the iPhone from charging.

It would be much appreciated.

Cheers,

Dean

 

[ThunderSkunk]

I really hope this fixes my stupiphone.

At least once every day since I updated to 2.0.1, my $700 paperweight throttles the music volume to maximum on me (usually resulting in a loud expletive being yelled whilst tearing my ears off to get the buds out) and becomes unresponsive to commands, requiring recovery mode to reset it. ...among other random crashing.

I wish there was a way to downgrade back to 2.0. or better yet, 1.1.4 jailbroken (safely).

2.1 can't come fast enough.

 

[levitynyc]

Could someone who is using 2.1 Beta 3 please tell me if this has fixed that issue with the new Bose Sound Dock Portable. According to Apple and Bose they said the next software update after 2.0.1 will fix this issue.

Basically, if you put a 3G iPhone into the Bose Sound Dock Portable, after 5 minutes you will hear this loud popping noise coming from the speaker which will interrupt the iPhone from charging.

It would be much appreciated.

Cheers,

Dean

Bose sucks.....

"No highs, no lows, It must be Bose"

 

[FireFish]

I have beta 3

Still not available to those of us not blessed by being accepted early.

I have 2 phones:
1) 1st Gen iPhone - my development phone - running OS 2.1 Beta 3
2) 3G iPhone - running 2.0.1

I'm considering upgrading my 3G now to 2.1 Beta 3 after experimenting rolling back in DFU mode on my 1st gen with no problems.

--

Beta 3 - If you're not a developer writing on Cocoa, do yourself a favor & don't drool over it just because you don't have it. Trust me; there's no added 'ooohs' or 'aaahhs'.

Only GUI changes appear to be they added Camera to Parental Controls list, added a 2nd carrier label in General --> About & an option to auto-erase the phone if Passcode Lock has an incorrect code entered 10 times.

The rest are bug fixes (and naturally, new bugs, which I'm writing up in the next window here in the Apple Bug Tracker), and of course, the Apple long promised Push Notification Service.

 

[FireFish]

yep

I really hope this fixes my stupiphone.

At least once every day since I updated to 2.0.1, my $700 paperweight throttles the music volume to maximum on me (usually resulting in a loud expletive being yelled whilst tearing my ears off to get the buds out) and becomes unresponsive to commands, requiring recovery mode to reset it. ...among other random crashing.

I wish there was a way to downgrade back to 2.0. or better yet, 1.1.4 jailbroken (safely).

2.1 can't come fast enough.

downgrade back to 2.0 by entering DFU & restoring the 2.0 5A347 IPSW.

 

[ThunderSkunk]

downgrade back to 2.0 by entering DFU & restoring the 2.0 5A347 IPSW.

I looked into it briefly, but it looked like the baseband & bootloader were pretty well boned up between the versions, requiring a lot of hop-scotch with bootneuter, pwn, ziphone, etc etc etc...

I'll try messing with it some more tonight...

 

[RobLikesBrunch]

It BETTER add alias support to MobileMe.

 

[Santa Rosa]

I wish there was a way to downgrade back to 2.0. or better yet, 1.1.4 jailbroken (safely).

2.1 can't come fast enough.

You talk about all those problems, then also talk about jailbraking. Im not pointing the finger here but all the problems people are reporting about with the 2.0 are starting to sound fishy. Look I understand that is a big statement, totally unfounded and very likely wrong but hear me out...

I just cant seem to get past the idea that we are all running the same hardware, with the same software but some people are having a terrible time, where others aren't? When in all actuality everyone is limited to doing all the same things to their iPhones within Apples boundary. Aka not tinkering or jailbraking etc etc. So does this mean its hardware thats the issue or software?

I have never jailbroken or in any way tried to tinker with my iPhone and it has been solid as a rock bar the odd bug, even with 2.0 (ok apps crashed and killed the phone but it never failed to restart and never needed any of this crazy restoring 3 times a day or what some people were claiming) and 2.0.1.

There is a guy I know who is not as tech savvy as the guys on the forum and he got an iPhone 3G from my recommendation. I know for a fact that he will be using it, as is, without trying anything out of the ordinary. I am keen to see what his experience of it is.

I know what I am saying is pretty way out but if someone could enlighten me to another viewpoint on this it's much appreciated.

Bose sucks.....

"No highs, no lows, It must be Bose"

+1 lol. Expensive junk. Banging a bin lid makes for better listening.

 

[Phil A.]

I have 2 phones:
1) 1st Gen iPhone - my development phone - running OS 2.1 Beta 3
2) 3G iPhone - running 2.0.1

I'm considering upgrading my 3G now to 2.1 Beta 3 after experimenting rolling back in DFU mode on my 1st gen with no problems.

--

Beta 3 - If you're not a developer writing on Cocoa, do yourself a favor & don't drool over it just because you don't have it. Trust me; there's no added 'ooohs' or 'aaahhs'.

Only GUI changes appear to be they added Camera to Parental Controls list, added a 2nd carrier label in General --> About & an option to auto-erase the phone if Passcode Lock has an incorrect code entered 10 times.

The rest are bug fixes (and naturally, new bugs, which I'm writing up in the next window here in the Apple Bug Tracker), and of course, the Apple long promised Push Notification Service.

Check your PMs

 

[Forced Perfect]

Could someone who is using 2.1 Beta 3 please tell me if this has fixed that issue with the new Bose Sound Dock Portable. According to Apple and Bose they said the next software update after 2.0.1 will fix this issue.

Basically, if you put a 3G iPhone into the Bose Sound Dock Portable, after 5 minutes you will hear this loud popping noise coming from the speaker which will interrupt the iPhone from charging.

It would be much appreciated.

Cheers,

Dean

Just for the record, this does not occur with the non-portable one. Ours works perfectly using 2.0/2.0.1, however, charging does not work as expected.

 

[schimanke]

@Santa Rosa:

I agree with you that maybe most of the problems can be related to jailbroken or hacked iPhones. Anyway, I never hacked or jailbroke my iPhone (Germany, T-Mobile) but I have a lot of problems since updating to 2.0.1. Basically it crashed everytime I synced it with iTunes. But not only did it crash, it wouldn't start up afterwards. It least not until I tried it up to ten times. Two times I had to put my iPhone into DFU mode to bring it back to life...

I think the problems occured due to apps from different accounts I had installed on my iPhone (I have an iTunes account for Germany, UK and USA). Anyway, this should not happen. I completely restored it this morning with only the German apps installed and everything is fine since then. I am really looking forward to iPhone OS 2.1 which will hopefully be less beta than 2.0 or 2.0.1.

 

[Elven]

It does sound good that I will admit. The thing which I am hoping for is mms to be added but I think that is just a pipe dream.

 

[ernie2249]

Is this beta for everyone or just for developers?

 

[guzhogi]

Is this beta for everyone or just for developers?

To follow up on that, where can you get it? I just got into the IpHone Development Program & can't find it. Is it only for the Select/Premier ADC guys?

 

[schimanke]

I can download it from the iphone dev center. But I was accepted into the program before June 11th. I guess that is the reason why not everybody can see it. Just like the beta versions of 2.1 before...

 

[mberthot]

Iphone beta 2.1

Does anyone know when they will release this to the public?

 

[Santa Rosa]

Does anyone know when they will release this to the public?

It will be in September, barring any delays, to line up with the launch of Apples background push service.

 

[t0mat0]

It will be in September, barring any delays, to line up with the launch of Apples background push service.

And "MobileMe Take 2"

 

[blackcrayon]

You talk about all those problems, then also talk about jailbraking. Im not pointing the finger here but all the problems people are reporting about with the 2.0 are starting to sound fishy. Look I understand that is a big statement, totally unfounded and very likely wrong but hear me out...

I just cant seem to get past the idea that we are all running the same hardware, with the same software but some people are having a terrible time, where others aren't? When in all actuality everyone is limited to doing all the same things to their iPhones within Apples boundary. Aka not tinkering or jailbraking etc etc. So does this mean its hardware thats the issue or software?

Saw tons of bugs and issues with 2.0 before the iphone dev team made jailbreaking possible. Corroborated with many iPhone users in my area using Twinkle.

Who knows, maybe it's people that run certain 3rd party apps that use certian buggy API features, etc... But people were seeing apps reboot their phones, GPS inexplicably stop working, etc before they could possibly have jailbroken. And i still see people asking if they should upgrade their phones to 2.01 "to fix all the crashy bugs" that don't even know what jailbreaking is.

 

[kingtj]

New firmware "progress reports"

I couldn't agree more. NDAs are *really* only legally enforceable concepts in the first place because government recognized the need for companies to keep new product developments a secret for a limited time, if there was a risk of said developments being copied by faster competitors. (Piggybacking off someone else's millions of dollars spent in R&D so you can financially ruin them by releasing products based on that stolen R&D before they can even get them to market, isn't quite a "fair and level playing field".)

That has NOTHING to do with people choosing to "leak" some updates on the progress of bug fixes to an existing and established product!

In my opinion? Apple enjoys operating in a culture of "secrecy" as much as possible. (If it weren't for the fact Jobs always wears the same old black turtlenecks and blue-jeans, he'd demand an NDA on leaking out rumors about the clothes he was thinking about wearing the next day!)

This gives them some "advantages" I'd rather they not have in the first place, like the ability to hide design flaws and production problems from consumers. They tend to openly admit to the BIG screw-ups that they can't hide (like MobileME), while shoving as many smaller ones "under the rug" as they can. Instead of full disclosure, Apple likes to publish or say practically nothing about problems - merely "suggesting" affected buyers swap defective parts for new ones, on a case by case basis. (EG. I received a notice of a "voluntary battery recall" for my original Macbook Pro, not long after I bought it. Funny how everyone else out there like Dell, Toshiba, etc. made it clear that their entire product lines of laptops were affected by defective batteries and they'd be replacing them all, free of charge! Only Apple used the sneaky, low-key replacement method - despite sourcing batteries from the same place as the others.)

Agreed! I think it's awesome that we can get a little information about upcoming products/software. I don't know about you, but that's a large part of the reason I started visiting this site on a daily basis (at least originally) ... Of course, if you don't like people violating NDAs and dispensing information freely, you probably shouldn't bother coming to a site called macrumors.com ...

 

[Jon1323]

I haven't really had any problems

everyone is saying that their keyboard lags or their phone keeps crashing but i haven't had any of those problems im not trying to be an ass im just sayin. the only problem i had was that before i did the update my calls kept dropping. I would answer than 2 seconds later it would say call failed it was weird. But the update fixed that.

 

[Thunder82]

everyone is saying that their keyboard lags or their phone keeps crashing but i haven't had any of those problems im not trying to be an ass im just sayin. the only problem i had was that before i did the update my calls kept dropping. I would answer than 2 seconds later it would say call failed it was weird. But the update fixed that.

All 15-20 3g iPhones I have set hands on, lags when SMS/Texting. 2.0.1 made it a tad better, but its still insanely annoying.

 

[amarcus]

Through friends and family I have access to 6 different iPhones (2 3G's and 4 2G's) and none of them are jailbroken or have ever been jailbroken (as if that would make a difference anyhow!). All of them suffer from a multitude of bugs as of the 2.0 firmware update.

First off, the SMS app has a laggy keyboard. If that wasn't bad enough accessing contacts through SMS or elsewhere results in a few seconds lag before you can do anything. Then after you click on a contact, more lag for a couple of seconds without any visual confirmation you've even hit the screen until the contact details appear. Before anyone thinks I'm fussy... none of this happened in 1.1.4! The app crashing etc. I can stand but stuff like this gets in the way of its primary function... its a phone for crying out loud!

I've lost a lot of respect for apple recently with the mobileme fiasco et al. Lets hope they can earn some of it back with 2.1!

 

[Snips]

Location

Location finding worked brilliantly with my 1st gen iPhone (using celltower triangulation + Skyhook) prior to 2.0. With 2.0, triangulation effectively stopped working, but wifi was still OK.

Since 2.0.1, I haven't had a single successful locate by either cell tower or wifi.

Very disappointing, and I hope they fix this stuff that they got so right in the 1.x firmware.

I think new iPhone 2.0 customers must be wondering what the fuss was about