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(re: the iTouch) I'm sure they'll also add both cameras too, and the hi-res screen; and actually, I'd love to see … WHY they're holding up the OS 4 upgrade until 3 or 4 months BEYOND that of the iPhone…

Ummm, maybe a unicorn, too?

I predict this release will easily be seen to be all about re-establishing the iPhone as having the equal or better feature in oh-so-many ways to the Androids. And putting a lot of hardware goodies onto the iPod Touch, for which I have yet to see any decent Android competition (i.e., NOT the Archos), would be losing focus from what's shaping up to be a fight as fraught as their 1990's near-fatal mangling by Microsoft.

So, faster, shinier iPhone hardware with better battery life? Proof in hand. More data flexibility, as perhaps in “Verizon?” Prospects look good. Customizations and multitasking that are key features for Android fans? Announced and/or demo'd. Aggressive pricing, à la iPads'? More likely than not. Extra features regards Mobile Me, the Cloud, apps, … ? Whatever they can pull out of their hats.

That's a pretty long list of goodies for one year, and all of it is focused on message: “You'll see why 2010 will not be like 1995.”

Oh, and the version control? Here's a guess: The iPad team had to take the status quo of the iPhone software and work in secret while tuning it to the unannounced device. They would've worked in isolation from the iPhone team. Now, I'll guess there's some maintenance/cleanup on iPad but the big push is to get the now-announced iPhone OS 4.0 working as well as we all want: more features, faster, bugless, ready to use AND LATER tweak for the iPad. Only once that feverish and again, very-tightly-focused development goes out the door do the engineers take a weekend off and go back to merging all the 4.0 goodness with the iPad specifics.
 
bugs i found out are:

my cellular signal was always full in my office desk, but now it decreased 1 bar.

when you put apps together and try to sync via itunes, all apps that have been grouped together will be back to the spring board. so it's useless now to grouping apps together since the itunes sync will break those.
 
Like the sound of the custom dictionary. Sometimes you do need to replace those plain words in the short form dictionary they use with something more interesting or colorful, but i doesn't mean you want to see it come up every time.
 
bugs i found out are:

...
when you put apps together and try to sync via itunes, all apps that have been grouped together will be back to the spring board. so it's useless now to grouping apps together since the itunes sync will break those.

That's not a bug, that's your iTunes not supporting folder syncing yet. You can be sure that when OS 4.0 launches, there will be an update to iTunes to properly support Folders.

However, if you are a real developer, you can go to developer.apple.com and download the OS 4.0 SDK (~2GB) which (amongst other things) updates components inside iTunes and will at least preserve folders on your iPhone. Since Beta 1 an iTunes sync has never ungrouped my folders, as I've always installed the latest SDK.

It's probably a fair assumption that you're not a developer with access to the SDK at developer.apple.com and you've just paid some guy a few bucks to be put on their developer account.
 
Anybody using Beta 4 on a 3G iPod touch?

I don't have any wallpapers, when I go into the Wallpaper settings all I get is a white screen.

Anyone?

Yeah. Me too. Just go download the wallpapers from Gizmodo into your "saved photos" then load them up from there.
 
Can you clarify this statement? Are you saying that the two missing items only appear when one does a restore/re-install from scratch - as opposed to restore from backup?

When you install the OS 4.0 beta 4 and don't sync, or restore a backup, you will see the utility folder. It's just a few apps grouped together. When you then restore a OS3 back up on top of that, it moves your apps to the way they were in that OS3 back up, ie. not grouped together. Hence the folder disappears. You can get it back and make your own by dragging the apps on top of one another.
 
What does the group messaging do?

Nobody has answered yet which is very suprising... is it group chat??
 
New Beta .... OS 4 ..... Fall Changes? (3)

Ummm, maybe a unicorn, too?

I predict this release will easily be seen to be all about re-establishing the iPhone as having the equal or better features in oh-so-many ways to the Androids.

Oh, and the version control? Here's a guess: The iPad team had to take the status quo of the iPhone software and work in secret while tuning it to the unannounced device. They would've worked in isolation from the iPhone team. Now, I'll guess there's some maintenance/cleanup on iPad but the big push is to get the now-announced iPhone OS 4.0 working as well as we all want: more features, faster, bugless, ready to use, AND LATER tweak for the iPad. Only once that feverish and again, very-tightly-focused development goes out the door do the engineers take a weekend off and then go back to merging all the 4.0 goodness with the iPad specifics.

Yeah, you're probably more right than not. The big battle IS between iPhone and the Androids. So, that needs to be kept up with as of first importance. As for the WHY concerning late release of 4.0 for the iPad, I thought basically the same thing after I posted. And it must be written for the larger screen too. Thus the iPhone foundation work must be focused on first. Good thoughts Walt....! :)
 
Sorry if it was asked before.
Is there an option to send contact by sms, not by email.

thx
 
Sorry if it was asked before.
Is there an option to send contact by sms, not by email.

thx

no, only by email and sms which is lame.. :(

btw one thing i found out ia you can digital zoom in camera app by tapping once on the screen. sorry if this has been posted before.
 
That's not a bug, that's your iTunes not supporting folder syncing yet. You can be sure that when OS 4.0 launches, there will be an update to iTunes to properly support Folders.

However, if you are a real developer, you can go to developer.apple.com and download the OS 4.0 SDK (~2GB) which (amongst other things) updates components inside iTunes and will at least preserve folders on your iPhone. Since Beta 1 an iTunes sync has never ungrouped my folders, as I've always installed the latest SDK.

It's probably a fair assumption that you're not a developer with access to the SDK at developer.apple.com and you've just paid some guy a few bucks to be put on their developer account.

i'm currently beta testing a game for iphone.
 
Is it possible to develop iPad apps with the OS 4 SDK?

I don't believe so. OS 4.0 isn't due out for the iPad until some months after the iPhone/iPod touch. Apple have said US Autumn for the release.

I've seen it called iPhone 4.1 in some circles with suggestions that those working on the iPad weren't wholly privy to OS 4.0 and vice versa. Apple keep even inter-project collaboration limited to very few individuals.

Apple didn't even show ANY features running on an iPad - I expect we'll see a little of this at WWDC followed by the usual beta releases before launch.
 
I don't believe so. OS 4.0 isn't due out for the iPad until some months after the iPhone/iPod touch. Apple have said US Autumn for the release.

I've seen it called iPhone 4.1 in some circles with suggestions that those working on the iPad weren't wholly privy to OS 4.0 and vice versa. Apple keep even inter-project collaboration limited to very few individuals.

Apple didn't even show ANY features running on an iPad - I expect we'll see a little of this at WWDC followed by the usual beta releases before launch.

I'm hoping that 4.1 will bring multiuser support for the iPad.
 
Considering the 2 week schedule that has happened so far, shouldn't we be seeing beta 5 today? What's going on with that? Maybe not because of WWDC next week? You think they will release a GM on that day?
 
Considering the 2 week schedule that has happened so far, shouldn't we be seeing beta 5 today? What's going on with that? Maybe not because of WWDC next week? You think they will release a GM on that day?

I think that's what happened last time, there wasn't any beta within a week of WWDC. The day hasn't ended yet, still another couple of hours yet.
 
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